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Putin Urges Strength; School Toll Tops 340
My Way News ^ | 9/4/04 | MIKE ECKEL/AP

Posted on 09/04/2004 2:18:21 PM PDT by wagglebee

BESLAN, Russia (AP) - A shaken President Vladimir Putin made a rare and candid admission of Russian weakness Saturday in the face of an "all-out war" by terrorists after more than 340 people - nearly half of them children - were killed in a hostage-taking at a southern school.

Putin went on national television to tell Russians that they must mobilize against terrorism and promised wide-ranging reforms to toughen security forces and purge corruption.

"We showed weakness, and weak people are beaten," he said.

Shocked relatives wandered among row after row of bodies lined up in black plastic or clear body bags on the pavement at a morgue in Vladikavkaz, the capital of North Ossetia, where the dead from the school standoff in Baslan were taken. In some open bags lay the contorted, thin bodies of children, some monstrously charred.

In Baslan, other relatives scoured lists of names to see if their loved ones had survived the chaos of the day before, when the standoff turned into violence, with militants setting off explosives in the school and commandos moving in to seize the building.

Workers cleaned up the gymnasium where the more than 1,000 hostages were held during the 62-hour ordeal. The gym of School No. 1 was reduced to a shell - the roof destroyed, the windows shattered - during Friday's fighting.

Regional Emergency Situations Minister Boris Dzgoyev said 323 people, including 156 children, were killed. More than 542 people including 336 children were hospitalized, medical officials said.

Dzgoyev also said 35 attackers - heavily-armed and explosive-laden men and women who were reportedly demanding independence for Chechnya - were killed in 10 hours of battles that shook the area around the school with gunfire and explosions after 1 p.m. Friday. Earlier, a senior prosecutor had said there were only 26 militants and all were killed. The discrepancy could not immediately be explained.

Putin made a quick visit to the town before dawn Friday, meeting local officials and touring a hospital to speak with wounded. He stopped to stroke the head of one injured child.

But some in the region were unimpressed, as grief turned to anger, both at the militants and at the government response.

"Putin arrived and left in the middle of the night while everyone is sleeping, probably because he was afraid to talk with the people, to look them in the eyes," said Zalina Gutiyeva, 37, a pediatrician in Vladikavkaz, the capital of North Ossetia, a Russian Orthodox region set amid the predominantly Muslim North Caucasus.

It was still unclear how exactly the standoff fell apart into violence on Friday. Officials say security forces had not intended to storm the building but were forced to when hostage-takers set off explosives - some however questioned that version.

The militants seized the school on the first day of classes on Wednesday, herding hundreds of children, parents who had been dropping their kids off, and other adults into the gymnasium, which the militants promptly wired with explosives - including bombs hanging from the basketball hoops. The packed gym became sweltering, and the hostage-takers refused to allow in food or water.

One survivor, Sima Albegova, told the Kommersant newspaper she asked the militants, why the captives were taken. "Because you vote for your Putin," one of the militants told her, she said.

Another freed hostages said a militant told her, "The federal forces killed our children and you didn't help us. If Putin doesn't withdraw forces from Chechnya and doesn't free our arrested brothers, we'll blow everything up," according to the Moskovsky Komsomolets newspaper.

Russian officials said the bloodshed began when explosions were apparently set off by the militants - possibly by accident - as emergency workers entered the school courtyard to collect the bodies of hostages killed in the initial raid Wednesday.

Diana Gadzhinova, a 14-year-old hostage, was quoted as telling Izvestia that the militants had ordered the hostages to lie face down in the gymnasium as workers approached to collect the bodies.

"They told us that there were going to be talks," she said. Others also told stories of how the explosions sent the militants guarding them running in what appeared to be confusion and surprise to see what had happened.

Hostages fled during the explosions, and the militants opened fire on them. Security forces opened fire in return, and commandos moved in, officials said.

The explosions tore through the roof of the gymnasium, sending wreckage down on hostages, killing many. Many survivors emerged naked covered in ashes and soot, their feet bloody from jumping barefoot out of broken windows to escape.

During his visit to Beslan, Putin stressed that security officials had not planned to storm the school - trying to fend off any potential criticism that the government side had provoked the bloodshed. He ordered the region's borders closed while officials searched for everyone connected with the attack.

"What happened was a terrorist act that was inhuman and unprecedented in its cruelty," Putin said in his televised speech later. "It is a challenge not to the president, the parliament and the government but a challenge to all of Russia, to all of our people. It is an attack on our nation."

Putin took a defiant tone, acknowledging Russia's weaknesses, but blaming it on the fall of the Soviet Union, foreign foes seeking to tear apart Russia and on corrupt officials. He said Russians could no longer live "carefree" and must all confront terrorism.

He called for Russians to mobilize against what he said was the "common danger" of terrorism. Measures would be taken, Putin promised, to overhaul the law enforcement organs, which he acknowledged had been infected by corruption, and tighten borders.

"We are obliged to create a much more effective security system and to demand action from our law enforcement organs that would be adequate to the level and scale of the new threats," he said.

The school attack was the latest violence thought connected to Chechen separatists who have been battling Russian rule for more than a decade. IT came after a suicide bomb attack outside a Moscow subway station Tuesday that killed eight people, and last week's near-simultaneous crashes of two Russian jetliners after what officials believe were explosions on board.

An unidentified intelligence official was quoted by the ITAR-Tass news agency as saying the school assault was financed by Abu Omar As-Seyf, an Arab who allegedly represents al-Qaida in Chechnya, and masterminded by Chechen rebel leader Shamil Basayev.

With some families gathering for wakes for the dead, some were vowing vengeance in North Ossetia, a Russian Orthodox Christian region in the mainly Muslim North Caucasus.

"Fathers will bury their children, and after 40 days (the Orthodox mourning period) ... they will take up weapons and seek revenge," said Alan Kargiyev, a 20-year-old university student in Vladikavkaz.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: barbarians; ossetia; putin; terrorism
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To: sailor4321

The Chechnyans just want "affordable" healthcare and a "living" wage./sarcasm off


21 posted on 09/04/2004 2:38:14 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: Dumb_Ox

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/05/international/europe/05rtext.html


22 posted on 09/04/2004 2:39:13 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: Bobby777
LOL..
excellent....I think you captured the essence of the program :)
23 posted on 09/04/2004 2:39:31 PM PDT by evad (We cannot afford 9-10 thinkers in a 9-11 world)
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To: M Kehoe
I'm still having a hard time dealing with the fact that Fallujah exists.

As far as I can tell it exists because GWBush cannot handle many (any?) American combat deaths and still get re-elected.

24 posted on 09/04/2004 2:39:53 PM PDT by dennisw (Allah FUBAR!)
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To: dennisw

Islam. Making enemies wherever they go. Will they ever look in the mirror? doubt it.


25 posted on 09/04/2004 2:40:05 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: wagglebee

I fear that Putin will use this as an excuse to impose more authoritarian rule in Russia,rather than see it as a reason to do what he should do-deal with the terrorists in the only relevant way,on their own terms.

And France will be there like a snake in the grass,whispering in his ear that he can't "undermine his independence" by showing any solidarity with the US and the coalition.

I hope he's firmer than the Czars were when France did the same thing.


26 posted on 09/04/2004 2:40:13 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: M Kehoe
I'm still having a hard time dealing with the fact that Fallujah exists.

MEGA ditto!

27 posted on 09/04/2004 2:40:58 PM PDT by evad (We cannot afford 9-10 thinkers in a 9-11 world)
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To: wagglebee
First thing Putin has to do is up the Russian birthrate. Do it via incentives, tax breaks, more Orthodox religion, whatever it takes. Every Mohammedan war (Jihad) is part demographic war.
28 posted on 09/04/2004 2:42:47 PM PDT by dennisw (Allah FUBAR!)
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To: wagglebee
"We showed weakness, and weak people are beaten," he said.

Lesson learned: America cannot afford John Kerry.

29 posted on 09/04/2004 2:43:44 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: dennisw

Time to start the worldwide campaign to flatten every Mosque on the planet. It's a start. Go after their heretofore off-limits havens & nests. Maybe in response the vermin will aggregate into larger groups that we can exterminate in a fair fight, instead of having to deal with them sneaking around in small groups and attacking women and children, like the stinking cowards they are.


30 posted on 09/04/2004 2:44:01 PM PDT by MCH
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To: evad

not to promote excessive drinking BUT

Osama bin Laden walks into a bar with a duck under his arm.

The bartender says "HEY! you can't bring that pig in here!"

Osama bin Laden says "pardon me! but this is a duck, you infidel!"

The bartender says "Pardon ME!!! I was speaking TO the duck!!!"

lame, I know ... 8) ... fwiw


31 posted on 09/04/2004 2:44:06 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: wagglebee

170 kids.


32 posted on 09/04/2004 2:45:15 PM PDT by kenth
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To: mrsmel

Putin was against the Iraq war for selfish reasons, Iraq owed Russia a lot of money. Some of the money they will get back, other than that it's a moot point. Putin now realized that Bush is going to be re-elected. The events of the last two weeks have scared the crap out of him, he is going to use this as an opportunity to solidify his power.


33 posted on 09/04/2004 2:46:00 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: Bobby777
>>Kinky! Here's you badge!<<

Of course, the appropriate reply is..
"Baaadges, we don't need no steeenkin baaadges"

34 posted on 09/04/2004 2:47:08 PM PDT by evad (We cannot afford 9-10 thinkers in a 9-11 world)
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To: wagglebee; oceanview; dennisw
Already posted

Russian President's address to the Nation

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1207411/posts?page=38

Despair and Anger in Small Russian Town After Siege

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1207293/posts?page=34

35 posted on 09/04/2004 2:48:07 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Dumb_Ox
You've noted an important lacuna in our information

Good Word! I never saw that one before.

36 posted on 09/04/2004 2:48:30 PM PDT by bikepacker67 (Sandy wasn't stuffing his socks, he was stuffing A sock.)
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To: Bobby777

ROFLOL!


37 posted on 09/04/2004 2:48:48 PM PDT by evad (We cannot afford 9-10 thinkers in a 9-11 world)
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To: mrsmel

Putin is also really pissed off at the EU now
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1040905/asp/foreign/story_3720034.asp


38 posted on 09/04/2004 2:50:06 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: evad

I sincerely hope that Putin's talk about improving security is just to lull the Chechyans into a false sense of complacency before he lets loose.

If anyone in Eastern Europe sees a bright flash on the horizon, that's just Putin cleaning house...


39 posted on 09/04/2004 2:50:13 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel ("John Kerry sees two Americas. It's mutual. America sees two John Kerrys.")
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To: evad

8)


40 posted on 09/04/2004 2:52:14 PM PDT by Bobby777
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