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"First you terrorize your opponents into silence so that your movement appears to have no opposition. This gives you tremendous power, not only because moderates quietly feel they are alone in their disagreement with you, but also because the ignorant media – especially the foreign media – casts you as the choice of the people. Having succeeded in silencing moderates, the next step is terrorizing them into cooperating with you. Soon passive cooperation is not enough. You want more than their body – you want their soul, so you terrorize the moderates into being "passionate" in your cause."
"In the end, your movement appears to have only loyal and active supporters. Now you are in total control, for who would dare speak out against you? As Hitler said, 10 years before he finally rose to power, "The National Socialist Movement will in the future ruthlessly prevent – if necessary by force – all meetings or lectures that are likely to distract the minds of our fellow countrymen." In other words, all opposition is evil and we will protect you from it."
"Sound familiar?"

People who carry on in the manner that we have all seen in these FR threads, "nuke them all", "they all lie", "the Qu'ran tells them to lie", on and on and on ad nauseum, are doing yeoman's work for the extremists by heaping scorn on the voices brave enough to speak out against them.

It's a damned shame.

"It's a damned shame."

Yes it is. We ought to be encouraging them. For the record the Qu'Ran DOES tell them to lie to infidels, because infidels worship the prince of lies. Also to bribe us, and failing to gain our allegiance, to kill us.

The point is that a lot of Muslims just ignore the violent parts.

People who carry on in the manner that we have all seen in these FR threads, "nuke them all",

In WWII we never made really big distinctions between peaceloving Nazis and the bad Nazis -- even today Nazi groups in the USA are watched very closely as they should be --- but I'm sure even then we knew there were differences in the Nazis, some were more violent than others. Some on the surface probably seemed like pretty okay people -- nice to their kids and quiet neighbors. As long as they shared the belief system with the bad ones, they were not completely good or trustworthy.

Please DO NOT mistake my sense of fairness for a lack of caution! There is a segment of the world population(unfortunately mostly Muslim) that are very worthy of our suspicion, indeed our condemnation. These individuals do not feel any compunction to be truthful, deal fairly, or to even spare our lives. As I have said before on these threads, I was warned years ago by various Middle Eastern university students, sponsored by my husband and I, that Americans have no concept of the depths these terrorists will delve in their sick attempts to injure and kill Americans. These young people came from countries that have battled terrorists for many years. They were all moderate Muslim and had often, themselves, faced threats in their home countries because their families were not radical extremists.

I hope you noticed that your quote could also apply to terrorists? These are their stated goals: to terrorize the public and media into recognizing them as being legitimate. Yassir Arafat has used this technique with particular success. He has fooled most of the press into seeing him as "legitimate" when, in fact, he is still only a terrorist!

I also recognize the need for people to vent! If we were to meet most of these individuals on the street, those making the radical statements, we would probably be impressed by their congeniality, even their kindness! You can not always judge people by the very radical things they say online.