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Hurricane Frances : 2004-09-01 (New Thread)
Various | 2004-09-01 | Patton@Bastogne

Posted on 09/01/2004 3:15:34 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne

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Free Republic Community:



Welcome to Wednesday's Hurricane Frances news-twist !

It looks like a Melbourne Landfall after all, once again (to Section9's worst fears) churning it's way North along the Coast Highway ...



Excellent Hurricane Frances Websites:

HURRICANE ALLEY

U.S. Weather Observers






Patton@Bastogne
Free Republic Member since 1998.



General George S. Patton Jr. Website

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TOPICS: Announcements; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Florida; US: Georgia; US: South Carolina; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: frances; hurricane; hurricanefrances
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To: cymeckajax3

Thanks! I hope your daughter in law will evacuate if it's called for. This one is nothing to toy with.

I'm upset with my neigbor who wants to stay with her cats. At last conversation she won't even let the men help board up if it comes to that.

Pray for all, and that they will have discernment and not try to ride it out if they shouldn't. I'm getting ready just in case!


281 posted on 09/01/2004 10:53:13 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Judge Greer allows violations of Florida Statutes)
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To: Hoodlum91

Whew! I know it! This is one to be reckoned with!


282 posted on 09/01/2004 10:54:12 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Judge Greer allows violations of Florida Statutes)
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To: Dog Gone

Found this post on the old farmers almanac forums. Sounded interesting, so I figured I would share.



With the remnants of Gaston and Hermine now heading rapidly northeastward into the Grand Banks, the only game in town, so to speak, is Hurricane Frances. There are still quite a few unanswered questions about the probable track of Frances, owing to the inability of baroclinic equations to fully understand warm-core, very low pressure cyclones. But some trends are apparent, and they are revealed by the spread of solutions provided by all forms of numerical weather predictions.

To form a "cone" of viable forecasts concerning the path of Frances, I employed a decades-old strategy: Persistence+Climatology+Outlier+Mean patterns. Persistence says that if Frances maintains the current west-northwest heading, it comes ashore in the vicinity of Fort Lauderdale FL. Climatology, or looking at similar storms over the years of recorded data, favors a further south strike in the vicinity of Miami FL. The "Outlier" is clearly the GFDL version, which takes the hurricane inland near Charleston SC. An average ("Mean") solution based on the aggregate of the computer predictions seems to center on Jacksonville FL. If you think this collection of ideas regarding Frances and possible paths of motion produces the same thinking as before, you are correct. Nothing has changed! We still are not close enough to landfall to use NWP solutions with any degree of confidence, mostly because the longer term outlooks are still struggling with weaknesses over the Southeast and in the lower Mississippi Valley (check them out on the 500MB chart...), as well as the vigorous trough complex over the Pacific Northwest. But a sketch of events can be made, and it does not bode well for E GA and W SC.

I note that the GFS panels see Frances connecting with the diffuse frontal structure stretching from the LA Gulf Coast to the NC Outer Banks. This linkage is important, because the hurricane will follow a path of least resistance during the next 72 hours: more northwest than west, and slower as the subtropical high weakens and gives way to the cP regime that will spread down the coast. When the polar anticyclone takes over, Frances heads westward again on Friday night and Saturday. But as the Deep South weakness comes into play (kicked eastward by the rapidly advancing, strong trough the the GFS and GGEM versions initialize well), Frances resumes a more northwest to north pattern of motion. Hence landfall near Brunswick GA early on Sunday. Please remember that the position of the hurricane in outlooks is subject to change. What we must be concerned with here is that a potentially dangerous storm could, with a minor deviation in trajectory, make landfall in FL as early as Friday night. But for now, I see no real reason for a profound shift in the forecast for Frances.

As stated before, the tight circulation of the storm, in a shear-free environment with 30 C water temperatures, is going to maintain a Category 4 status with the possibility for growth to more than 155 mph winds before landfall in N FL or SE GA. The slowdown theory put forth by the American and Canadian models may be bogus, but it cannot be ignored. Should Frances start a crawl to the north on Sunday and Monday, a disastrous flood of more than 20 inches of rain would be unleashed in and around the Savannah Valley as well as the upcountry SC peach growing counties around Interstate 85. The steep pressure gradient could very well maintain hurricane force winds into the Great Smokies on Labor Day, so I treat this situation very seriously. The incoming trough should accelerate Frances through Appalachia into N NY early next week.


283 posted on 09/01/2004 11:00:43 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Have a burger and a beer and enjoy your liquid vegetables.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Great map! I'd been looking for a map that showed both the track of the hurricane and the major cities.
Looks like we'll finally have an Orlando hurricane that beats both Donna AND Charley!


284 posted on 09/01/2004 11:08:43 AM PDT by Amore (Go, Swifties, go!)
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To: Vigilantcitizen

bttt


285 posted on 09/01/2004 11:17:50 AM PDT by Sam's Army (Reject Materialism)
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To: submarinerswife

Wow!


286 posted on 09/01/2004 11:19:04 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Vigilantcitizen

I haven't seen this up, so...

Hurricane Frances Intermediate Advisory Number 31a


Statement as of 2:00 PM AST on September 01, 2004


...Frances nearing the Turk and Caicos Islands...
A Hurricane Warning remains in effect for the turks and caicos
islans and for the southeast and central Bahamas.
Hurricane Watch remains in effect for the northwest Bahamas.

A Hurricane Warning means that hurricane conditions are expected
within the warning area within the next 24 hours. Preparations to
protect life and property should be rushed to completion. A
Hurricane Watch means that hurricane conditions are possible
within the watch area...generally within 36 hours.

A Tropical Storm Warning remains in effect the north coast of the
Dominican Republic from Punta Gorda westward to Manzanillo Bay.

At 2 PM AST...1800z...the eye of Hurricane Frances was located near
latitude 21.8 north...longitude 70.4 west or about 60 miles...
85 km...east-northeast of Grand Turk island and 700 miles...1125
km...east -southeast of the Florida East Coast

Frances is moving toward the west-northwest near 15 mph...24 km/hr.
The general track is expected to continue during the next 24 hours
with a gradual decrease in forward speed. On this track...the
core of the hurricane will be passing near or over the Turks
and Caicos Islands later today...and the southeastern Bahamas during
the next 24 hours.

Maximum sustained winds remain near 140 mph...220 km/hr...with
higher gusts. Frances is a category four hurricane on the
Saffir-Simpson hurricane scale. While fluctuations in intensity
are expected during the next 24 hours...Frances could still
intensify a little more before reaching the Hurricane Warning area.

Hurricane force winds extend outward up to 80 miles...130 km...
from the center...and tropical storm force winds extend outward up
to 185 miles...295 km. Grand Turk reported winds of 36 mph...57
km/hr earlier today.

Latest minimum central pressure recently reported by an Air Force
plane earlier today was 941 mb...27.79 inches. A drifting buoy
near the core of Frances reported a minimum pressure of 967 mb...
28.56 inches.
Rainfall amounts of 1 to 3 inches...locally higher...are possible
over the Dominican Republic today.

Large and dangerous waves are possible along the north coast of
Hispaniola...and swells generated by Frances will begin affecting
portions of the southeastern coast of the United States today.

Repeating the 2 PM AST position...21.8 N... 70.4 W. Movement
toward...west-northwest near 15 mph. Maximum sustained winds...140
mph. Minimum central pressure...941 mb.

For storm information specific to your area...please monitor
products issued by your local weather office.
The next advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane Center at
5 PM AST.


287 posted on 09/01/2004 11:20:51 AM PDT by libtoken
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To: Patton@Bastogne

KSC RELEASE NO: 66-04

KENNEDY SPACE CENTER CLOSING THURSDAY AND FRIDAY TO PREPARE FOR HURRICANE FRANCES

Due to Hurricane Frances approaching the Florida coast, Kennedy Space Center Director Jim Kennedy has directed the Center to be closed for all personnel on Thursday and Friday. Final hurricane preparations will be made today to secure the Center for the storm. The Center is set to reopen on Tuesday Sept. 7; however, this date could change depending on the severity of the storm.


288 posted on 09/01/2004 11:22:33 AM PDT by dan_s
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To: PleaseNoMore
If you used a generator after Charley now is a good time to change the oil.

Good observation!!! Generators really become "funky" after 100+ hours of operation on the same oil!!!

I told several of my neighbors to CHANGE THEIR OIL yesterday!

My generator accumulated 110 hours in its first 10 years of life and 165 hours this year (SO FAR)! I'm beginning to wish I had spent an extra grand or so for a heavy duty diesel unit!

289 posted on 09/01/2004 11:27:16 AM PDT by ExSES
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To: libtoken
FORECAST VALID 03/0000Z 25.0N 76.0W
MAX WIND 130 KT...GUSTS 160 KT.
64 KT... 70NE 60SE 50SW 70NW.
50 KT...120NE 110SE 90SW 110NW.
34 KT...170NE 140SE 110SW 160NW.

Just wow. That is one hell of a bulldozer...hurricane-force winds forecast in a 50- to 70-mile radius from the eye.

Be glad you aren't in the Bahamas or Turks and Caicos right now.

}:-)4

290 posted on 09/01/2004 11:31:06 AM PDT by Moose4 (The face of The Religion of Peace(tm) wears a black ski mask.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Bump.
Gas up the generator!


291 posted on 09/01/2004 11:41:52 AM PDT by f zero
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To: Howlin
Jeb is giving a press conference right now. Expects to declare a state of emergency by 5:00PM today. Very serious.

He is asking everyone who plans to vacation in Florida this Labor Day weekend to please reschedule--do not cancel!

292 posted on 09/01/2004 11:45:06 AM PDT by NautiNurse ("I served in Viet Nam, and we have better hair"----John F'n Kerry campaign platform)
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To: f zero

Jeb Bush on tv now. "This is a time for neighbor to help neighbor." We WILL respond to this in a compassionate and effective way.


293 posted on 09/01/2004 11:46:40 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: f zero

Please use a carbon monoxide detector.


294 posted on 09/01/2004 11:46:41 AM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: PJ-Comix

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/GIFS/HUWV.JPG Water vapor image.


295 posted on 09/01/2004 11:48:02 AM PDT by tapatio
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To: tapatio; PJ-Comix

This Miami girl is sweating bullets. Why doesn't this thing make up its mind already....


296 posted on 09/01/2004 11:49:30 AM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: My heart remains in Washington....)
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To: RMDupree

Stay safe, RMD!


297 posted on 09/01/2004 11:51:12 AM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: Right_Handed_Writer

That is an Awesome sat loop of Frances! bookamrked. thanks


298 posted on 09/01/2004 11:51:57 AM PDT by No Blue States (Hype is on the way! Kerry/Edwards)
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To: RMDupree

BRKG 9/1 2:40 PM EST Mandatory Evac for Miami Beach



Breaking on Fox News, starting tomorrow afternoon for Miami Beach, due to Frances. Also, the Cape Canaveral is at high risk of a direct hit. Shuttle hanger can only withstand winds up to a low Cat 4. Frances might be too much...


299 posted on 09/01/2004 11:52:12 AM PDT by libtoken
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To: Howlin

(((Howlin)))

Thanks, sis!


300 posted on 09/01/2004 11:52:23 AM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: My heart remains in Washington....)
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