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To: Dog Gone

Found this post on the old farmers almanac forums. Sounded interesting, so I figured I would share.



With the remnants of Gaston and Hermine now heading rapidly northeastward into the Grand Banks, the only game in town, so to speak, is Hurricane Frances. There are still quite a few unanswered questions about the probable track of Frances, owing to the inability of baroclinic equations to fully understand warm-core, very low pressure cyclones. But some trends are apparent, and they are revealed by the spread of solutions provided by all forms of numerical weather predictions.

To form a "cone" of viable forecasts concerning the path of Frances, I employed a decades-old strategy: Persistence+Climatology+Outlier+Mean patterns. Persistence says that if Frances maintains the current west-northwest heading, it comes ashore in the vicinity of Fort Lauderdale FL. Climatology, or looking at similar storms over the years of recorded data, favors a further south strike in the vicinity of Miami FL. The "Outlier" is clearly the GFDL version, which takes the hurricane inland near Charleston SC. An average ("Mean") solution based on the aggregate of the computer predictions seems to center on Jacksonville FL. If you think this collection of ideas regarding Frances and possible paths of motion produces the same thinking as before, you are correct. Nothing has changed! We still are not close enough to landfall to use NWP solutions with any degree of confidence, mostly because the longer term outlooks are still struggling with weaknesses over the Southeast and in the lower Mississippi Valley (check them out on the 500MB chart...), as well as the vigorous trough complex over the Pacific Northwest. But a sketch of events can be made, and it does not bode well for E GA and W SC.

I note that the GFS panels see Frances connecting with the diffuse frontal structure stretching from the LA Gulf Coast to the NC Outer Banks. This linkage is important, because the hurricane will follow a path of least resistance during the next 72 hours: more northwest than west, and slower as the subtropical high weakens and gives way to the cP regime that will spread down the coast. When the polar anticyclone takes over, Frances heads westward again on Friday night and Saturday. But as the Deep South weakness comes into play (kicked eastward by the rapidly advancing, strong trough the the GFS and GGEM versions initialize well), Frances resumes a more northwest to north pattern of motion. Hence landfall near Brunswick GA early on Sunday. Please remember that the position of the hurricane in outlooks is subject to change. What we must be concerned with here is that a potentially dangerous storm could, with a minor deviation in trajectory, make landfall in FL as early as Friday night. But for now, I see no real reason for a profound shift in the forecast for Frances.

As stated before, the tight circulation of the storm, in a shear-free environment with 30 C water temperatures, is going to maintain a Category 4 status with the possibility for growth to more than 155 mph winds before landfall in N FL or SE GA. The slowdown theory put forth by the American and Canadian models may be bogus, but it cannot be ignored. Should Frances start a crawl to the north on Sunday and Monday, a disastrous flood of more than 20 inches of rain would be unleashed in and around the Savannah Valley as well as the upcountry SC peach growing counties around Interstate 85. The steep pressure gradient could very well maintain hurricane force winds into the Great Smokies on Labor Day, so I treat this situation very seriously. The incoming trough should accelerate Frances through Appalachia into N NY early next week.


283 posted on 09/01/2004 11:00:43 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Have a burger and a beer and enjoy your liquid vegetables.)
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To: Vigilantcitizen

bttt


285 posted on 09/01/2004 11:17:50 AM PDT by Sam's Army (Reject Materialism)
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To: Vigilantcitizen

I haven't seen this up, so...

Hurricane Frances Intermediate Advisory Number 31a


Statement as of 2:00 PM AST on September 01, 2004


...Frances nearing the Turk and Caicos Islands...
A Hurricane Warning remains in effect for the turks and caicos
islans and for the southeast and central Bahamas.
Hurricane Watch remains in effect for the northwest Bahamas.

A Hurricane Warning means that hurricane conditions are expected
within the warning area within the next 24 hours. Preparations to
protect life and property should be rushed to completion. A
Hurricane Watch means that hurricane conditions are possible
within the watch area...generally within 36 hours.

A Tropical Storm Warning remains in effect the north coast of the
Dominican Republic from Punta Gorda westward to Manzanillo Bay.

At 2 PM AST...1800z...the eye of Hurricane Frances was located near
latitude 21.8 north...longitude 70.4 west or about 60 miles...
85 km...east-northeast of Grand Turk island and 700 miles...1125
km...east -southeast of the Florida East Coast

Frances is moving toward the west-northwest near 15 mph...24 km/hr.
The general track is expected to continue during the next 24 hours
with a gradual decrease in forward speed. On this track...the
core of the hurricane will be passing near or over the Turks
and Caicos Islands later today...and the southeastern Bahamas during
the next 24 hours.

Maximum sustained winds remain near 140 mph...220 km/hr...with
higher gusts. Frances is a category four hurricane on the
Saffir-Simpson hurricane scale. While fluctuations in intensity
are expected during the next 24 hours...Frances could still
intensify a little more before reaching the Hurricane Warning area.

Hurricane force winds extend outward up to 80 miles...130 km...
from the center...and tropical storm force winds extend outward up
to 185 miles...295 km. Grand Turk reported winds of 36 mph...57
km/hr earlier today.

Latest minimum central pressure recently reported by an Air Force
plane earlier today was 941 mb...27.79 inches. A drifting buoy
near the core of Frances reported a minimum pressure of 967 mb...
28.56 inches.
Rainfall amounts of 1 to 3 inches...locally higher...are possible
over the Dominican Republic today.

Large and dangerous waves are possible along the north coast of
Hispaniola...and swells generated by Frances will begin affecting
portions of the southeastern coast of the United States today.

Repeating the 2 PM AST position...21.8 N... 70.4 W. Movement
toward...west-northwest near 15 mph. Maximum sustained winds...140
mph. Minimum central pressure...941 mb.

For storm information specific to your area...please monitor
products issued by your local weather office.
The next advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane Center at
5 PM AST.


287 posted on 09/01/2004 11:20:51 AM PDT by libtoken
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To: Vigilantcitizen
That's an interesting scenario, but I don't agree with it. This hurricane is moving fast, and the faster it goes the less time there is for the Bermuda high to weaken and allow a more northerly course.

I'm still leaning toward a south central Florida landfall with an exit into the northeast Gulf, probably still as a Category 1 storm.

331 posted on 09/01/2004 1:07:38 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Vigilantcitizen

Whew! Wish I didn't have to think about this but I do. You definitely sound like you've been watching storms for a while.


338 posted on 09/01/2004 1:17:48 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Judge Greer allows violations of Florida Statutes)
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