Posted on 08/25/2004 6:42:06 AM PDT by A. Pole
Neocon bump!
ping a rooooo
how exactly does one define a NeoCon?
Is it me, or do so-called "Paleocons" bitch about being oppressed more than liberals?
One must admire Mr. Carney's thesis: Why fight terrorism when you can fight your fellow Americans?
A hawk who hates social conservatives.
Another Liberal conflation of fact.
We, the US, the CIA never did fund Bin Laden.
The Saudis did.
We, the US, the CIA funded the Norther Alliance & others.
Repeat the lie enough......
No kidding. By the time Osama became associated in any manner, shape or form with Afghanistan the Cold War had been over for nearly ten years.
NeoCon is a communist in conservative suit.
My definition of neo-conservatism is:
A intellectual movement born during Cold War which had roots among Wilsonian liberals, former leftists (some related to anti-Soviet Trotskyite factions). Fiercely anti-communist, supportive of big military and foreign interventions.
Neocons at first wanted to be considered conservative, but meeting the resistence from the original real conservatives who were anti-interventionists, suspicious of big government and sceptical toward utopias of New World Order, ended up with "neo" prefix. The actual conservatives are named sometimes paleo-conservatives to contrast them with neocons.
Neocons tend to blame their oponents of anti-semitism based on the fact that many neocons are Jewish. It is the tactic inherited from their Communist past when the anti-communists were slandered the same way.
Who is lying? Until 9/11 Northern Alliance was supported by IRAN and RUSSIA while Taleban was supported by USA. Check the facts, please!
An important part of the leftoid mythology. And patently false, by the way. Osama channeled funds of his own along with donations from Muslim countries. He never received a dime of U.S. money, or weapons, or training. All U.S. support went to native Afghans, not foreign fighters.
He did not need it for sure. But he did not work in vacuum. From the time of Soviet invasion of Afghanistan to the Taleban/KLA/Chechnya before 9/11 you can find a lot of strange alliances.
I have never seen
an official def. I use
the understanding
real conservatives
respect individuals,
and acknowledge that
individuals
create society by
their thoughts and actions.
I think neo-cons
are people who have embraced
the liberal love
of the collective
and social engineering
over free action.
It's true neo-cons
set different targets for
their engineering,
and use different
collective social units,
but I see their thoughts
are built from the same
basic concepts as the Left.
Both have contempt for
individuals
thinking or living freely
without some "elites" . . .
Maybe according to some. But you do not have to be Jewish to be a neocon, Commie or perhaps a Trotskyist - although I am not sure about the last :). Hey, you even can find some paleo Jews!
Irving Kristol was ALWAYS a flaming communist. An apple does not fall far from the tree. How better to gain control of any party than from inside. Be more hawkish than the hawks and push them aside. The lot of them have their own agenda and it is not pro-American.
A Scoop Jackson Democrat?
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