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I just got 'The Kerry Kit' from MoveOn.org
MoveOnPAC.org ^ | 8/23/04 | JulieRNR21

Posted on 08/23/2004 1:31:41 PM PDT by JulieRNR21

Mine came in the mail today......

Have you seen what MoveOn is sending out? Clearly Soros' big bucks are being spent on a first class marketing tool.

It contains a DVD, a (small) Kerry/Edwards Sticker, two articles, Kerry's liberal voting record, Kerry's (outlandish) promises and instruction cards on how to spread the word on the 'real John Kerry'.

The DVD contains footage from the upcoming documentary on Kerry by George Butler 'Going Upriver: the Long War of John Kerry'. (Does this movie have film that Kerry himself shot in Vietnam?)

The articles praising Kerry are by David Kusnet, speechwriter for Clinton '92-94 and David Corn of The Nation magazine.

Those who get the kits are instructed to have a dinner party & invite friends to view the DVD and then get them to order their own 'Kits' and do the same....also to email everyone they know to order their own 'Kerry Kit.

While it says the kit is 'not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee' wouldn't Kerry have to authorize the use of the Butler film if he gave his own film to Butler?

Also the Kit is Called 'The KERRY KIT" so it is clearly promoting Kerry.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 527; davidkusnet; election2004; fecviolations; kerry; kerrycampaign; moveon; moveonorg
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To: dbwz

I was afraid there might be a difference.

Looks like this is not a violation of the law after all unfortunately.


121 posted on 08/24/2004 1:36:07 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: JulieRNR21

Good question.

Send it to Jim Angle and see what he can find out.


122 posted on 08/24/2004 1:37:57 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: JulieRNR21

Phone: (202) 628-1742

DC Bureau of FNC...ask for Angle or Goler.

Other DC number: (202) 824-6300

(Major garrett and Brit)

Make sure to say that the ordering site is the Moveon PAC, but the return address you have is just for regular Moveon.org


123 posted on 08/24/2004 1:44:39 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: DallasMike

That's an excellent letter. You should send the same letters to all of the lamestream media, including the New York Slimes under their news tips sections.

It might fall on deaf ears, but at least we can point out their hyprocracy.


124 posted on 08/24/2004 1:46:00 PM PDT by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
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To: DallasMike

Excellent work. You got enough for me to start doing some research to see what I can find. I might have to save teh moveon PAC site before they change things if they find out people are looking at them.


125 posted on 08/24/2004 1:48:57 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: rwfromkansas
Looks like this is not a violation of the law after all unfortunately.

Maybe, maybe not. It's going to all depend on what the regs are concerning interaction of these groups within a group.

I have a feeling that either these folks are well aware of what the laws are and are operating on the very fringes of legality, or they know that no one of consequence is going to hold their feet to the fire for any violations.

126 posted on 08/24/2004 1:53:55 PM PDT by dbwz (CAN THE BAN!)
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To: rwfromkansas

Thanks for all your suggestions & information.....BUMP


127 posted on 08/24/2004 9:14:03 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: JulieRNR21
Would it be 'bad' if Kerry's own website directed people to the "Kerry Kit" from moveon?

JohnKerry.com pimps MoveOn "Kerry Kit"

A little late to the discussion, but maybe this adds something.

128 posted on 08/24/2004 9:49:00 PM PDT by burrian
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To: burrian; DallasMike; rwfromkansas; dbwz

Would it be 'bad' if Kerry's own website directed people to the "Kerry Kit" from moveon?
JohnKerry.com pimps MoveOn "Kerry Kit"




Thanks for finding this.

See post#128

Can Kerry Campaign legally direct people to go to MoveOnPAC.org to order Kerry Kits?

Looks like collusion & coordination to me.


129 posted on 08/24/2004 10:03:09 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: ArGee

You questioned that Kery evwen HAD a voting record, but wait-he had to rush in there to raise the taxes, you know, the ones on gas, social security for seniors, middle class, etc.
Hundreds of times (votes) over 20 years.


130 posted on 08/24/2004 10:21:50 PM PDT by oreolady (please,please RNC BRING THE TRUTH OUT, BUT GOOD)
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To: DallasMike; rwfromkansas; Jim Robinson; hoosiermama; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; nutmeg; MEG33; ...

Washington Times is reporting on some of the same links between Kerry & MoveOn.org that we have researched on this thread:

The Washington Times
August 25, 2004
Editorial
Truth in 'web connections'

Last week, the Kerry campaign filed a complaint with the Federal Elections Commission arguing that the Bush campaign illegally coordinated with the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth in developing their TV ads attacking John Kerry's Vietnam record. To help them in their efforts, the New York Times devoted a Page 1 story revealing the "the web of connections" between the swift boat donors and the Bush campaign.

We reminded our readers yesterday that the swift boat veterans' initial stake of $500,000, which the New York Times dissected brilliantly, was mere peanuts compared to the $60 million worth of "independent" TV ads attacking President Bush. Today we would like to add to the Times story and show similar "connections" between pro-Kerry 527 organizations, named for the IRS section that governs them, and the Kerry campaign.

As Newsmax.com reported yesterday, MoveOn.org, one of the leading anti-Bush "independent" organizations, has a letter up on its Web site from Mr. Kerry dated June 17, 2003, commending the organization for its efforts in helping to stop the "Bush right-wing juggernaut." Also, on July 22, MoveOn.org's founder and campaign director, Eli Pariser, sent an e-mail to its members explaining how they can host their own pro-Kerry party and included links to JohnKerry.com, the official campaign Web site. Attached in the e-mail was a letter from Mary Beth Cahill, Mr. Kerry's campaign manager, though the MoveOn.org e-mail had a disclaimer at the bottom that said, "Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee."

As with money, so have many Democratic 527 organizations far surpassed the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth in terms of former campaign or party employees in their ranks and vice versa. In April, the Kerry campaign hired MoveOn.org's director of special projects, Zack Exley, to run the campaign's online communications. Though the Bush campaign recently fired Ken Cordier for his involvement with the swift boat veterans, the Kerry campaign still employs Mr. Exley.

As we noted yesterday, Jim Jordan, Mr. Kerry's former campaign manager, is the chief spokesman for both the Media Fund and American Coming Together (ACT), two pro-Kerry 527s that have a combined total receipt of $54.1 million. Moreover, the Media Fund is run by Harold Ickes, former Clinton deputy chief of staff, who also sits on the Democratic National Committee's executive board and was in attendance at the Democratic Convention last month. ACT's CEO, Steve Rosenthal, spent three years in the Clinton administration as an associate deputy secretary of the Department of Labor and before that was deputy political director for the DNC. And, finally, Sam Kaplan, an honorary co-chairman of the Minnesota branch of the Kerry-Edwards campaign, is a fund-raiser for ACT.

What does any of this prove? Just this: If the Kerry campaign would like to make an issue of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth's "connections" to the Bush campaign, perhaps they should reconsider their own ranks.


131 posted on 08/25/2004 11:56:10 AM PDT by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: JulieRNR21
Ramsey Clark to Join Panel for Saddam’s Defense

arabnews press release 25 August 2004


NOTE :
Ramsey Clark is pictured below with Kerry and
Vietnam phony vet Al Hubbard
Who was head of the
Vietnam Veterans Against the War movement.




NEW:
FReeper smith288 has an online version of
Kerry's "The New Soldier"
You can read it without downloading pdf files!
CLICK HERE


From Kerry's "The New Soldier":
Al Hubbard Sgt., 22 Troop Carrier Squadron Aug. ’65-June ’66

Emotions: Walking down the flight line at Saigon past stacks of aluminum cases containing American bodies and past stacks of aluminum luggage containing American currency. Seeing the tight, sad face of an Airman loading the bodies aboard a dirty Air Force Transport and the wide smiling face of a stewardess greeting the passengers aboard a clean Pan American Clipper Jet. Hearing a Vietnamese beg you to leave his country and an American colonel tells you to bomb his country. Hearing a Vietnamese invite you to live in his home, after the war and an American explain why you can’t live in his block, after the war. Flying over barren, brown, safe American held terrain and over lush, green unsafe enemy terrain. Feeling happy to be leaving a country in which you do not belong and sad to be returning to a country in which you are not allowed to belong. Sacrificing a portion of your consciousness so you won’t have to deal with being there and building mental blocks so you won’t have to deal with having been there.

- Al Hubbard, proven fraud who never set foot in Viet Nam. The only Vietnamese he ever met was when he was collaborating with the North Vietnamese in Paris
on the American Communist Party's nickel.
John Kerry's explanation: "He (Hubbard) simply exaggarated his particular position.
But nobody knew it at the time. And those things happen."

The New Soldier, (46 pages)
By John Kerry
and Vietnam Veterans
Against the War

PART I (pdf file)
PART II (pdf file)
PART III (pdf file)

Kerry hopes everyone
in the USA gets this book!

Send this url for the online version

http://ejsmithweb.com/fr/newsoldier/


Print this out (46 pages) and disribute it,
especially to the liberals you know.

Copy and paste the links to everyone you know.

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Inro.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Epilogue.pdf



132 posted on 08/25/2004 11:58:09 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry sitting in a tree, sitting in a tree F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: JulieRNR21; Jim Robinson

See what you started....One person (or two) can make a difference.


133 posted on 08/25/2004 12:03:22 PM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: JulieRNR21
If these kits are free, and if they pay the postage, I'm going to order 20 - 1 kit at a time.

Then, as they arrive, I'll put them through the shredder.

134 posted on 08/25/2004 12:05:35 PM PDT by MEGoody (Flush the Johns - vote Bush/Cheney 04)
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To: MEGoody

They were free but now they want $4.00 for shipping!


135 posted on 08/25/2004 12:19:41 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: JulieRNR21
"They were free but now they want $4.00 for shipping!"

They can choke on them then.

136 posted on 08/26/2004 10:18:19 AM PDT by MEGoody (Flush the Johns - vote Bush/Cheney 04)
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To: DallasMike; rwfromkansas; dbwz; burrian; hoosiermama; Smartass; Jim Robinson

Just got this email from MoveOn.org asking if I got the Kerry Kit they sent.......this is a clear violation as MoveOn.org is not permitted to promote a candidate.

They cleverly signed the email from MoveOnPAC.org BUT both the email & the return address on the package are from MoveOn.org

Double standard prevails & the media is not reporting on the violations in MoveOn.org!



Subj: Your Kerry Kit Has Shipped: Order #XXXXX
Date: 8/26/2004 4:52:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: moveon-help@list.moveon.org
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Sent from the Internet (Details)



Your Kerry Kit is on its way. Look inside the DVD case for interesting charts, articles, and a bumper sticker.


Dear MoveOn member,

We just wanted to let you know that your Kerry Kit has shipped via USPS standard mail, and should arrive within 10 business days.

The kit comes in a case containing a DVD, bumper sticker, materials, and articles. We hope you find it useful and informative.

If you haven't received the Kerry Kit in the mail by Tuesday, September 7, please send an email to: orders@kerrykit.com . If you email us, please include the shipping information (name and mailing address) where the Kerry Kit was to go. Your order number is: XXXXXX.


Sincerely,

--The MoveOn PAC Team


137 posted on 08/28/2004 7:42:06 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: JulieRNR21
Turn copy's over to the Federal Elections Commission.

THANKS FOR THE PING

138 posted on 08/28/2004 7:48:46 PM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: JulieRNR21

thanks for the update


139 posted on 08/28/2004 7:53:08 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: JulieRNR21

527's are not supposed to coordinate with a candidate. They can promote what they like.


140 posted on 08/28/2004 7:59:18 PM PDT by SALChamps03
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