Posted on 08/23/2004 1:31:41 PM PDT by JulieRNR21
Mine came in the mail today......
Have you seen what MoveOn is sending out? Clearly Soros' big bucks are being spent on a first class marketing tool.
It contains a DVD, a (small) Kerry/Edwards Sticker, two articles, Kerry's liberal voting record, Kerry's (outlandish) promises and instruction cards on how to spread the word on the 'real John Kerry'.
The DVD contains footage from the upcoming documentary on Kerry by George Butler 'Going Upriver: the Long War of John Kerry'. (Does this movie have film that Kerry himself shot in Vietnam?)
The articles praising Kerry are by David Kusnet, speechwriter for Clinton '92-94 and David Corn of The Nation magazine.
Those who get the kits are instructed to have a dinner party & invite friends to view the DVD and then get them to order their own 'Kits' and do the same....also to email everyone they know to order their own 'Kerry Kit.
While it says the kit is 'not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee' wouldn't Kerry have to authorize the use of the Butler film if he gave his own film to Butler?
Also the Kit is Called 'The KERRY KIT" so it is clearly promoting Kerry.
I was afraid there might be a difference.
Looks like this is not a violation of the law after all unfortunately.
Good question.
Send it to Jim Angle and see what he can find out.
Phone: (202) 628-1742
DC Bureau of FNC...ask for Angle or Goler.
Other DC number: (202) 824-6300
(Major garrett and Brit)
Make sure to say that the ordering site is the Moveon PAC, but the return address you have is just for regular Moveon.org
That's an excellent letter. You should send the same letters to all of the lamestream media, including the New York Slimes under their news tips sections.
It might fall on deaf ears, but at least we can point out their hyprocracy.
Excellent work. You got enough for me to start doing some research to see what I can find. I might have to save teh moveon PAC site before they change things if they find out people are looking at them.
Maybe, maybe not. It's going to all depend on what the regs are concerning interaction of these groups within a group.
I have a feeling that either these folks are well aware of what the laws are and are operating on the very fringes of legality, or they know that no one of consequence is going to hold their feet to the fire for any violations.
Thanks for all your suggestions & information.....BUMP
JohnKerry.com pimps MoveOn "Kerry Kit"
A little late to the discussion, but maybe this adds something.
Would it be 'bad' if Kerry's own website directed people to the "Kerry Kit" from moveon?
JohnKerry.com pimps MoveOn "Kerry Kit"
You questioned that Kery evwen HAD a voting record, but wait-he had to rush in there to raise the taxes, you know, the ones on gas, social security for seniors, middle class, etc.
Hundreds of times (votes) over 20 years.
Washington Times is reporting on some of the same links between Kerry & MoveOn.org that we have researched on this thread:
The Washington Times
August 25, 2004
Editorial
Truth in 'web connections'
Last week, the Kerry campaign filed a complaint with the Federal Elections Commission arguing that the Bush campaign illegally coordinated with the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth in developing their TV ads attacking John Kerry's Vietnam record. To help them in their efforts, the New York Times devoted a Page 1 story revealing the "the web of connections" between the swift boat donors and the Bush campaign.
We reminded our readers yesterday that the swift boat veterans' initial stake of $500,000, which the New York Times dissected brilliantly, was mere peanuts compared to the $60 million worth of "independent" TV ads attacking President Bush. Today we would like to add to the Times story and show similar "connections" between pro-Kerry 527 organizations, named for the IRS section that governs them, and the Kerry campaign.
As Newsmax.com reported yesterday, MoveOn.org, one of the leading anti-Bush "independent" organizations, has a letter up on its Web site from Mr. Kerry dated June 17, 2003, commending the organization for its efforts in helping to stop the "Bush right-wing juggernaut." Also, on July 22, MoveOn.org's founder and campaign director, Eli Pariser, sent an e-mail to its members explaining how they can host their own pro-Kerry party and included links to JohnKerry.com, the official campaign Web site. Attached in the e-mail was a letter from Mary Beth Cahill, Mr. Kerry's campaign manager, though the MoveOn.org e-mail had a disclaimer at the bottom that said, "Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee."
As with money, so have many Democratic 527 organizations far surpassed the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth in terms of former campaign or party employees in their ranks and vice versa. In April, the Kerry campaign hired MoveOn.org's director of special projects, Zack Exley, to run the campaign's online communications. Though the Bush campaign recently fired Ken Cordier for his involvement with the swift boat veterans, the Kerry campaign still employs Mr. Exley.
As we noted yesterday, Jim Jordan, Mr. Kerry's former campaign manager, is the chief spokesman for both the Media Fund and American Coming Together (ACT), two pro-Kerry 527s that have a combined total receipt of $54.1 million. Moreover, the Media Fund is run by Harold Ickes, former Clinton deputy chief of staff, who also sits on the Democratic National Committee's executive board and was in attendance at the Democratic Convention last month. ACT's CEO, Steve Rosenthal, spent three years in the Clinton administration as an associate deputy secretary of the Department of Labor and before that was deputy political director for the DNC. And, finally, Sam Kaplan, an honorary co-chairman of the Minnesota branch of the Kerry-Edwards campaign, is a fund-raiser for ACT.
What does any of this prove? Just this: If the Kerry campaign would like to make an issue of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth's "connections" to the Bush campaign, perhaps they should reconsider their own ranks.
See what you started....One person (or two) can make a difference.
Then, as they arrive, I'll put them through the shredder.
They were free but now they want $4.00 for shipping!
They can choke on them then.
Just got this email from MoveOn.org asking if I got the Kerry Kit they sent.......this is a clear violation as MoveOn.org is not permitted to promote a candidate.
They cleverly signed the email from MoveOnPAC.org BUT both the email & the return address on the package are from MoveOn.org
Double standard prevails & the media is not reporting on the violations in MoveOn.org!
Subj: Your Kerry Kit Has Shipped: Order #XXXXX
Date: 8/26/2004 4:52:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: moveon-help@list.moveon.org
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Sent from the Internet (Details)
Your Kerry Kit is on its way. Look inside the DVD case for interesting charts, articles, and a bumper sticker.
Dear MoveOn member,
We just wanted to let you know that your Kerry Kit has shipped via USPS standard mail, and should arrive within 10 business days.
The kit comes in a case containing a DVD, bumper sticker, materials, and articles. We hope you find it useful and informative.
If you haven't received the Kerry Kit in the mail by Tuesday, September 7, please send an email to: orders@kerrykit.com . If you email us, please include the shipping information (name and mailing address) where the Kerry Kit was to go. Your order number is: XXXXXX.
Sincerely,
--The MoveOn PAC Team
thanks for the update
527's are not supposed to coordinate with a candidate. They can promote what they like.
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