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Kerry Vows to Attack Bush War Record in Retaliation
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Posted on 08/20/2004 10:23:10 AM PDT by GulliverSwift

BOSTON -- Democratic presidential candidate John F. Kerry on Thursday lashed back for the first time against a group of Vietnam veterans critical of his wartime service, accusing them of doing President Bush's "dirty work" and suggesting that he, in turn, will challenge Bush's military record.

Two weeks after the veterans launched a television ad questioning Kerry's actions in Vietnam, the back-and-forth over the former Navy lieutenant's record enveloped the campaign, as new records undercut the credibility of one of his critics.

During a speech to several thousand firefighters, Kerry directly challenged allegations by the group, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, that he concocted his wartime injuries for political gain.

"More than 30 years ago, I learned an important lesson -- when you're under attack, the best thing to do is turn your boat into the attacker. That's what I intend to do today ...," he told members of the International Association of Fire Fighters.

"Thirty years ago, official Navy reports and every person there documented my service in Vietnam and awarded me the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts. Thirty years ago, this was the plain truth. It still is. And I still carry the shrapnel in my leg from a wound in Vietnam."

Kerry's angry response Thursday marks an abrupt shift in strategy for the candidate, who had let surrogates address the accusations. Not only did the Massachusetts senator strike back personally, his campaign produced a new television ad defending his service, a slew of military records and a clutch of fellow veterans to testify to his actions.

The Swift boat group had run a 30-second television ad in three battleground states challenging the basis of Kerry's war record, saying he lied about his experiences, didn't deserve his medals and betrayed fellow servicemen by protesting the war after returning to the U.S. Though limited in its initial reach, the ad quickly gathered steam as a point of debate on websites, talk shows and cable television.

The campaign's full-front attack Thursday amounted to recognition that the anti-Kerry group's accusations could tarnish one of the candidate's greatest assets -- his decorated military service.

The attacks may have already hurt. According to a new poll by CBS News, Kerry has lost ground among veterans since the Democratic National Convention, when he ran neck-in-neck with Bush among those voters. Now, the president has an 18-point lead in that group, according to the poll, which surveyed 1,009 adults nationwide.

Meanwhile, newly released military records Thursday contradicted an account given by Larry Thurlow, a Swift boat group veteran who disputes that Kerry came under fire during a 1969 mission on the Bay Hap River. The candidate won a Bronze Star for his actions that day, when he fished a Green Beret officer out of the water.

A document recommending Thurlow for a Bronze Star said that his boat, along with Kerry's and three others, fielded constant bullets that day, according to The Washington Post. Thurlow insisted Thursday that the records were based on Kerry's account; he maintained his contention that Kerry lied about enemy fire.

None of the men in the Swift boat group, including Thurlow, actually served in Kerry's patrol boat during the war. A Los Angeles Times review of their accusations found that, in addition to Thurlow, other members also have given contradictory accounts of incidents and offered evidence of Kerry's alleged wrongdoing based on memories of events that they say they witnessed from a boat or two away.

Military documents and accounts of crewmates who actually served with Kerry support the view put forth by the candidate and his campaign -- that he acted courageously and came by his five medals honestly.

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But the Swift boat group is standing by its account of events. It announced Thursday that it would unveil a new ad Friday. Spokesman Mike Russell declined to describe its content, or say where it will be aired.

Kerry, in his speech to firefighters, noted that Robert J. Perry, a Texas developer and longtime contributor to Bush, has given the group $200,000. Harlan Crow of Dallas, CEO of Crow Holdings and the controlling shareholder of Trammel Crow Company, the nation's largest commercial real estate firm, gave the group $25,000 on May 10.

The anti-Kerry ad aired in Wisconsin, Ohio and West Virginia from Aug. 5-12.

"They're a front for the Bush campaign," Kerry said. "And the fact that the president won't denounce what they're up to tells you everything that you need to know -- he wants them to do his dirty work."

Kerry suggested that he will challenge Bush's own service record in the Texas Air Guard, signaling an intensely personal turn in the debate over the candidates' wartime credentials.

"The president keeps telling people he would never question my service to our country," he said. "Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded attack group does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service in Vietnam, here is my answer: 'Bring it on!'"

Bush's re-election campaign denied the president is backing the Swift boat group, but Bush, the White House and the campaign again declined to denounce the ad.

"Sen. Kerry knows President Bush has called his service in Vietnam noble," said spokesman Steve Schmidt, adding that Bush has also called for an end to campaign advertising by independent groups.

Russell also flatly denied that the organization is supported by the Bush campaign, describing Kerry's comments predictable.

"We know the laws, and we abide by them," said Russell, noting that the group is an independent committee.

Initially, Kerry was inclined to ignore the group and its ad. When the Swift boat group's ad was released, he was in the middle of a post-convention, cross-country campaign swing, and aides said he did not want to give his critics more attention by responding directly.

But the anti-Kerry veterans -- and their challenge of Kerry's credibility -- continued to gain notice. The group has raised $450,000 in donations from more than 10,000 contributors since the ad debuted, largely through the group's Web site.

Meanwhile, some of Kerry's fellow veterans urged David Thorne, one of his closest friends and advisers, to persuade the candidate to respond more forcefully.

"I think every veteran familiar with the situation who heard what was running around was enraged," said Paul Nace, a longtime friend who served with Kerry in the Navy. "And so I think all of us wanted the campaign to get John and everybody else to respond."

Kerry reversed course Wednesday night after arriving in Boston from a campaign trip to Cincinnati. As his motorcade pulled up to his Beacon Hill townhouse, he asked senior adviser David Morehouse, communications direction Stephanie Cutter and press secretary David Wade to come inside.

With campaign manager Mary Beth Cahill on the phone, Kerry told his aides, "I think it's time to go at this."

Aides hired a delivery service to drive through the night from Washington to Boston with thick, bound copies of Kerry's Naval record to distribute to reporters traveling with the candidate.

The campaign cut a new commercial overnight that features former Green Beret Jim Rassmann testifying about how Kerry pulled him from the river in the middle of a firefight.

The ad is set to air Friday in Ohio, West Virginia and Wisconsin -- the same states where the Swift boat group showed its commercial. In airing it, the campaign reversed a decision to hold off on new television commercials until September.

Meanwhile, the campaign has hired Joe Lockhart, a Clinton White House spokesman, and Joel Johnson, a lobbyist who also worked for Clinton, to help field incoming attacks.

Cutter said that if charges about his service continue, Kerry will "talk comparatively" about his military record and that of Bush, who has been shadowed by questions about whether he fulfilled his required service while in the Texas Air Guard.

Kerry has reversed himself several times on whether he feels it's appropriate to go after Bush's military service.

In February, when other Democrats demanded that Bush release his military records, Kerry said he would not pursue such a line of attack. Then in late April, when critics accused Kerry of lying about throwing his war medals away during a war protest, he fired back by charging that Bush could not account for all his time in the National Guard.

But earlier this week, Kerry condemned an ad by one of his allies that accused Bush of using family connections to avoid military service as "inappropriate" -- even as some of his surrogates repeated the ad's charges in a press conference arranged by the campaign.

On Thursday, the candidate took a different tack, saying he learned the lesson to fight back when attacked."I'm not going to let anyone question my commitment to defending America -- then, now, or ever," he said.


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KEYWORDS: bush; kerry; ketchup; ketchupboy; liar; moreketchup; swiftboat
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To: Gaffrig
That a Boy F'n, be sure to piss off all the people serving in the National Guard.

Tom Harken is no slouch a pissin' of people either. I didn't go so now by his standard I'm a coward? My draft number was so high, they wouldn't have called me until the VC got to San Diego.

81 posted on 08/20/2004 10:49:10 AM PDT by tbpiper (Michael Moore…..the Erich von Däniken of political documentary)
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To: GulliverSwift

"None of the men in the Swift boat group, including Thurlow, actually served in Kerry's patrol boat during the war."

Don't think this is accurate.

How many total crew members did Kerry command during the time he was in Vietnam?

O' NEILL: Ten. Of course [in] the command for the longest length of time is a fellow who's been with us, [Steve] Gardner, and has given a full and complete statement. He was there [under Kerry's command] for two months.
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82 posted on 08/20/2004 10:49:28 AM PDT by ironman
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To: Peach
my guess is he's on an anti-psychotic drug

If he is it isn't working.

83 posted on 08/20/2004 10:49:54 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Tourette's syndrome is just a $&#$*!% excuse for poor *%$#** language skills.)
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To: GulliverSwift
Michelle Malkin's final comment about Kerry in her interview with Rush this morning...

"He's melting down, and his waterboys in the media are melting down with him."

84 posted on 08/20/2004 10:50:37 AM PDT by vox humana
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To: Joe 6-pack

Kerry-Edwards 2004

85 posted on 08/20/2004 10:51:03 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: Zyke
How can the NYT complain about the swift vet ad when Michael Moore was sitting in President Carter's box during the Democrat convention? What about the moveon.org adds comparing Pres. Bush to Hitler? Kerry has actually quoted from Moore and some of the Dem 527 ads (Liars + Hypocrites=NEW York Times).
86 posted on 08/20/2004 10:51:04 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: BSunday

That's a funny thought, but I don't think he is ACTING like such a big dummy, he IS a big dummy.


87 posted on 08/20/2004 10:51:25 AM PDT by Laura Earl (No rest for the wicked.)
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To: miloklancy
I'm starting to think this may be where we start to see the Kerry campaign really start to crumble. It's clear that Sen. Kerry was upset by the luke warm reception he received earlier this week from Veterans. This brought about his angry rebuke of the Swift Boat veterans recently and his intention to attack Bush for it.

All this, and neither the campaign nor anybody else has even brought up the garbage Kerry said after Vietnam while a flag-burning protestor. I'm sure the Bush campaign is strategically waiting to release some trash that he did and said while a commie protestor.

88 posted on 08/20/2004 10:51:26 AM PDT by GulliverSwift (John Fitzgerald Kerry-- Dream on Ketchup Boy)
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To: GulliverSwift

John Kerry is a COWARD!!

He can't confront these Vets .. so he goes after the President who didn't have a damn thing to do with these ads

COWARD!!!


89 posted on 08/20/2004 10:52:01 AM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: Jazhawk
Now he wants to waste time in a backhanded way saying National Guard service isn't real service.

Which I love.

There are far more Guardsman voting in this election than Kerry seems to realize.

The President needs to say this: "I served in the National Guard. I am proud of my service as a National Guardsman and I find it troubling that you belittle service in the Guard at a time when thousands of Guardsmen are fighting the war on terror even as we speak. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I respect and admire your Naval service in Vietnam. You don't need to badmouth Guardsmen to gain our respect. You already have it."

90 posted on 08/20/2004 10:52:09 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: GulliverSwift

ROFL! I almost feel sorry for the JacqueStrap...almost.


91 posted on 08/20/2004 10:52:36 AM PDT by ShandaLear (Bush hooligan reporting for duty!)
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To: COUNTrecount
Yep, looks like they're snuggling.

That's how Kerry will audition a new director of Homeland Security.

92 posted on 08/20/2004 10:54:35 AM PDT by GulliverSwift (John Fitzgerald Kerry-- Dream on Ketchup Boy)
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To: wideawake

How long before they bring up the drunk driving citation?


93 posted on 08/20/2004 10:56:11 AM PDT by ShandaLear (Bush hooligan reporting for duty!)
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To: BSunday; Conspiracy Guy
Here's another big dummy..
94 posted on 08/20/2004 10:56:15 AM PDT by Laura Earl (No rest for the wicked.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Once he begins attacking the president about his service record, that opens up Kerry's record to further scrutiny by the MSM - they would really have no choice.

I've become convinced over the last week that the MSM won't show any decent level of scrutiny to Kerry's record. They've had plenty of chances up to now, and all they've done is recently scrutize the swift vets, not Kerry. They realize they have to "cover the story", but they'll do it by trashing the swift vets. Look at what the NYT did in their "coverage" today.

95 posted on 08/20/2004 10:56:54 AM PDT by handy (Leahy you, you Clymer!)
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To: GulliverSwift
Useful resource for those discussing GW's service:
F-102, Vietnam & George W. Bush

JfK: "... when you're under attack, the best thing to do
is turn your boat into the attacker. That's what I intend
to do today ...
"

Not smart. This is going to result in the public
learning that Bush signed up for a more dangerous
assignment. Swifts were only being used for water
taxi and coastal (not up-river) patrol when Kerry
signed up for them. F-102As were being used in combat
in VN when GW signed up, and the a/c was inherently
dangerous. My guess is that the F-102A accident rate
was higher than the combat loss rate for some other a/c.
96 posted on 08/20/2004 10:56:54 AM PDT by Boundless
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To: pointsal

Rice is not detected.


97 posted on 08/20/2004 10:57:10 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Conspiracy Guy, Secretary of Humor and Tomfoolery)
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To: GulliverSwift

The swifties are running a new add-beginning today which address Kerry's traitorous behavior after he returned from Vietnam. Kerry is said to be foaming at the mouth over this one-he doesn't want his anti-war activities brought up during the campaign nor his Senate record apparently. Kerry -typical rich limousine liberal-thinks he can tell the Republicans and the swifties what they can and can not say during the campaign. Think again Mr. Kerry! These are not unarmed peasants that you can shoot in the back...


98 posted on 08/20/2004 10:57:39 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: CaptRon
does Commander-in-Chief count?

We here on FR discounted X42's claim that his being CIC quaified him as a member of the military.

I believe W was a USAF 1st Lt which would be the same rank as a Navy Ltjg.

99 posted on 08/20/2004 10:59:10 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Tourette's syndrome is just a $&#$*!% excuse for poor *%$#** language skills.)
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To: Old Grumpy

Have I missed something? I thought Kerry had been attacking Bush's war record all along




You are correct


100 posted on 08/20/2004 10:59:15 AM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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