Please just shut up.
Posted on 08/20/2004 8:56:39 AM PDT by pfloyd95
I thought I'd share this with everyone. Please excuse me if I post incorrectly I rarely post here.
This is an e-mail my mother sent after having an interesting experience at a Borders book store. I thought I'd share it with everyone.
Subject: Borders Policy
Borders:
Yesterday, by chance I was in your Eatontown, New Jersey Branch store looking for a book on a particular subject. Not able to find what I was looking for I went to the reference desk. Three clerks were there and in discussion over a book. I waited and none of the clerks turned to me but I heard them say "Unfit for Command". Finally, a clerk asked me if I needed help (I was the only customer at the desk) and I told her what I was looking for. She very kindly escorted me to the bookshelves and I asked her what was the problem about "Unfit for Command" and she told me that a Marketing/PR employee of Borders had been on a radio station and had said that Borders was not carrying this book because it was full of lies. I did ask her if this branch carried it and she had said that the last copy of "Unfit for Command" was sold a few hours earlier and there were no more copies in the store. So I commented to the clerk since when does a bookstore chain make a judgement about the accuracy of a book's contents. This same book is also on the top of the New York Times best seller list. I thought it was their business to sell books and not to be censors. Look at all the copies of books you have by Bill Clinton, Michael Moore, and everyone else of the political left. I do not support any of their anti-American propaganda, however, I go to your store to purchase books that I want to read and have the strength and conviction to be able to withstand the onslaught of left-wing, anti-American propaganda written by these so called authors. I consider these books full of lies but I also have the right to purchase or not purchase these books. I thought bookstore chains were big supporters of freedom of speech. Since when has it become the policy of a bookstore to decide when and what its customers may purchase and read. Since when did Borders decide to go into the censorship business? If I as a consumer can tolerate walking thru aisles of Anti-American propaganda, the least you can do is give me the choice to buy the books that I want to read and not what you have decided politically to make available.
Since when has it become a book seller's policy to decide on what the public can and cannot read? Where in your Mission Statement does it say that Borders will not sell best seller books because it decided it has "lies"? Who made the decision that this book is full of lies? Strange - the one book in just about every category aisle throughout the store that you are pushing is the biggest liar of all "My Life" by Bill Clinton. Isn't he the one who lied before the Starr Commission and finally admitted it in his book?
Acknowledgement is requested of your policy regarding the sale of books.
Mississippi School District Bans Book on Censorship: "Fahrenheit 451" by Ray Bradbury
February 1, 1999
West Marion High School in Foxworth, a rural Mississippi town, is the place where recent events aimed at censorship occurred. The book, Fahenreit 451, was on the reading list for several of the English classes. However, after a parent complained to the superintendent about the use of the word "God damn" in the book, the book was removed from the required reading list. Interestingly, the complaint did not surface until the book report was due -- more than a month after the reading assignment was given.
For those who are interested in learning what this book is all about, here is a brief synopsis of the tale which became a major motion picture in 1967:
Story Synopsis:
Fahrenheit 451 is an engrossing futuristic tale of a society where all printed material is banned. In this country of the future, officials believe that people who read and are able to think for themselves are a threat to the nation where individualism is strongly discouraged. The inhabitants of this society all seem to be suffering from sensory deprivation and their only link to news and entertainment is a large television screen on the wall where broadcasts are continually transmitted to the "family." All the people are members of the Family. Even though they aren't forced to watch the telecasts, they all do.
It is the job of firemen (this movie was made long before they were referred to as firefighters) to hunt down subvervives and burn the caches of books they've secreted away. The title, Fahrenheit 451, is the temperature at which book paper catches fire and starts to burn.
If a bookstore says that they won't sell a book containing lies, ask them why they sell anti-Bush propaganda.
Time to test the Tattered Cover in Denver.
Your absolutely right. They also have the right to admit that the borders owners are left-wing, politically. Although I doubt they have the moral fortitude to admit it.
"Don't join the book burners. Don't think you are going to conceal thoughts by concealing evidence that they ever existed." -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, speech at Dartmouth College, June 14, 1953
"Every burned book enlightens the world." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
"If all printers were determined not to print anything till they were sure it would offend nobody, there would be very little printed." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1730
"To prohibit the reading of certain books is to declare the inhabitants to be either fools or slaves." -- Claude Adrien Helvetius, De l'Homme, Vol. I, sec. 4
"We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -- John F. Kennedy
"Don't join the book burners. Don't think you are going to conceal thoughts by concealing evidence that they ever existed." -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, speech at Dartmouth College, June 14, 1953
"Every burned book enlightens the world." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
"If all printers were determined not to print anything till they were sure it would offend nobody, there would be very little printed." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1730
"To prohibit the reading of certain books is to declare the inhabitants to be either fools or slaves." -- Claude Adrien Helvetius, De l'Homme, Vol. I, sec. 4
"We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -- John F. Kennedy
sorry..a snafu!
I was in the Border's in Rosemont (Pa) today to pick up my ordered copy of Unfit For Command.
I asked if they had another copy, and he said he would check, that it was probably upstairs in the "poly-sci" section.
I commented that this was a brand new book, #1 on NYT, and Amazon, and why was it hidden away upstairs? He asked, what was I insinuating? I said, it would appear you are hiding the book "upstairs", when all other #1 new books are prominently displayed near the entrance.
He didn't like my "insinuations". LOL
Oh, PS.
The first clerk I dealt with said, "that's one book I'm probably not going to read, because I've heard it's filled with lies." I responded with, don't you think you should find out for yourself? It's apparantly very well documented". He wasn't interested in the truth.
I made sure not to put it directly in the bag, so others in line could see what we were talking about.
Report these clerks and store managers that comment, "we don't sell it . . . it's full of lies", to their corporate office. Chapter and verse with names.
Sending e-mails or letters to corporate will result in perhaps, disciplinary actions upon these employee's.
Let them know what their minions are doing to prevent the company of profits. They will be interested. They want to keep their profits up, investors happy and stock holders in the black.
To me, these clerks believe they are smug by turning away conservatives and need to pay the consequences for their actions by losing their jobs (or, the very least, poor reviews come annual merit pay time). Complicit managers as well. Striking back, justice done.
I knew what you were referring to. I do not know what makes you know more than everyone else on the subject. I have heard many people say they were unable to get the book. The line has been the same: backorder. I am suspicious of that claim. I have no reason to believe you over the poster of this thread. The poster heard two different stories. Yes, they advertise the book. But can you actually GET the book, or have they caved into Kerry pressure?
The following libraries have it in their collection. It's brand new, so give it a few more days to get through processing
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I'll check out my local Borders and report back.
Jeff Brazos supports this policy by Borders? Why????
Borders is trying it's best to keep the shelfs full.
When I went to school, we spelled it SHELVES. What didn't I learn????
Wrong
Borders and Walden are owned by Borders Group, Inc (BGP on the NYSE).
Amazon is owned by Amazon.com, Inc (AMZN on NASDAQ)
Borders, like several other companies, contracts with Amazon to handle their online sales. Among those others are Target, ToysRus, and Office Depot.
From Amazon's 2003 10-K "Third-Party Sellers We offer Amazon Marketplace and Merchants@ programs that enable third parties to integrate their products on our websites, allow customers to shop for products owned by third parties using our features and technologies, and allow individuals to complete transactions that include multiple sellers in a single checkout process. We are not the seller of record in these third-party seller transactions, but instead earn fixed fees, sales commissions, per-unit activity fees, or some combination thereof."
I just went to the Borders in Livingston (NJ and Unfir for Command was displayed prominently in front next to the Namath book.
Please just shut up.
I'm starting to think this is part of Kerry's plan to dump Tarayza. He has stock in Regnery, and by the time the election is over, he'll make enough on dividends and stock sales so he won't have to be anyone's boy toy any more.
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