Posted on 08/20/2004 7:08:59 AM PDT by hinterlander
Edited on 08/20/2004 7:30:57 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Here's the newest ad from the Swifties.
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You know what they say about payback ... From the deepest reaches of my Vietnam vets soul is say ... "F" you Hanoi John
Excellent idea! That would include someone in my family. His was one of the discrepency cases that Kerry closed.
I have only one observation: this ad is going to hurt.
Cumulative contributions by any individual in excess of $200 is reported to the FEC. So, as long as you remain below $200, your donation is essentially anonymous to public disclosure.
A few weeks ago, I read here on FR that similar sounding addresses were bought up by lefties -- one took you directly to salon.com where the dem talking points rebuttal to the Swift vets ad was posted.
You're right. "swiftvets.com" is the real SBVfT site.
I have't researched the history behind the "swiftboats.net" site. It contains authentic-looking crew listings but they are very obviously inaccurate. As a source, they are unreliable and shouldn't be counted on.
I won't speculate as to why the inaccuracies are there because it doesn't really matter if they are deliberate or innocent. The mistakes ruin their credibility no matter what the reason for them.
In the ad, Kerry is shown Speaking to Congress, the audio of his voice is playing against a still picture of him in his fatigues. The audio of his diatribe against American solders in the field is interrupted by videos of several POWs who talk about how his words were painful to them, more painful than their words. They also talk about betrayal, and that these were the exact things they were resisting torture, and being brutalized because they would not sign confessions to. Kerry did it for free.
My take is this is brutal, and if it manages to get any “Real Airplay” you can stick a fork in Kerry, He’s done.
It may be painful but it's not all bad. So many people have been conflicted about the VN era of our history, this may bring a painful sore to a head. Let people choose their camps. Kerry is arguably the most important actor amongst those who injected bacteria into that wound by his false Senate testimony back then. Few people are more responsible for the lingering fester the VN War has become.
He has aggravated this wound anew by centering his bid for the WH on his service record. The Swift Boat Vets are going to lance this infected boil and that will be painful and ugly. But it may bring great relief after it's done.
No one will doubt which camp Hitlery belongs to.
You're not the only one wondering that...we're all waiting in the wings with McCain's own statment about how POWs were taunted with the things people like Kerry were saying.
Oh, man. Sweet. Give it to him Swifties!!!
FOFL!
I'm guessing that this is an inside joke in Arizona. Could a non-Arizonan buy a clue, please?
Excerpt
"...P.S.: The idea that Kerry was actually in Cambodia over Christmas when he said he was has apparently long been abandoned by the Kerry campaign. ...
P.P.S.: Like many of my friends, I wasn't paying much attention to the Swifties until Kerry went postal on them. (Hmm. Was that a smart move? What happened to the rope-a-dope strategy?) I don't know which side is right. I don't know that I'd even hold it against Kerry if he did exaggerate a bit to get the three Purple Hearts that let him leave Vietnam. I do know that if freedom of speech means anything it means that a group of citizens can get together to bring up this sort of charge against a presidential candidate, subject to the laws of libel. But read this New York Times editorial and see if you can avoid concluding that the Times doesn't think the Swift Boat Veterans Ad should be stopped because it might be financed with corporate or union money in violation of the spirit of McCain-Feingold. The Times doesn't even really think it should be stopped because it was financed by a rich individual Republican (something that's clearly perfectly legal under McCain-Feingold as long as the group running the ads is not incorporated).
The Times thinks the ad should be stopped because you just shouldn't be able to make such "outlandish" independent charges in a campaign. They're against the speech, not the financing. Like Kerry, they're trying to come up with a "process" reason that avoids the inconveniently messy issue of truth. But their process reason--an attack on "independent" criticism per se--seems particularly dangerous.
P.P.P.S.: Respectable big-time journalist friends who met with the anti-Kerry vets recently found them a lot more credible than expected. Sorry, Note!
I am already over the "anonymous" mark. You can get my name/occupation/donation total right off the GWB wesbite.
Well, duh! Nevermind. (Need more coffee.)
Its not long enough. We need a 90 second commercial, at least
Say the name out loud.
I am crying after reading that testimony to torture. It confirms what I always suspected as a kid watching Vietnam happen from my TV. Somehow I guess you can instinctively know that those men suffered through hell to stay alive, unless of course, you're John Kerry. Then you simply don't care about what happened to your fellow countrymen.
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