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Kerry war journal contradicts key claim?
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Posted on 08/18/2004 5:10:48 PM PDT by dmanLA

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To: dmanLA
Pants on fire!
21 posted on 08/18/2004 5:30:49 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

Thank you for your service. Anyone who can stomach watchin the MSM and report back to us is a hero in my book!!!


22 posted on 08/18/2004 5:31:07 PM PDT by tsmith130 (Making one's enemies suffer is currently an under-valued activity.)
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To: dmanLA
More info on Kerrys fantasy tour of duty!

Still though, not as much coverage as "BUSH MUST AHVE SKIPPED HIS DUTIES!".

Also. ..

Americans at war who haven't been shot at are allowed to be cocky.

Kerrys Rule of War Number 2..right after fleeing from a firefight.

23 posted on 08/18/2004 5:31:30 PM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood (Zing!)
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To: Bob

Egad, I thought that said KERRY. My eyes are having Freudian fits or something!


24 posted on 08/18/2004 5:31:52 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: coconutt2000

Or both. He's a patholigical liar after all.


25 posted on 08/18/2004 5:33:01 PM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: cake_crumb

Rats. I thought it MEANT Kerry.


26 posted on 08/18/2004 5:34:56 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: dmanLA

Kurtz got off the boat. He split from the whole f---ing program. How did that happen? What did he see here that first tour? 38 f---ing years old. If he joined the Green Berets, there was no way you'd ever get above Colonel. Kurtz knew what he was giving up. The more I read and began to understand, the more I admired him. His family and friends couldn't understand it, and they couldn't talk him out of it. He had to apply three times and he put up with a ton of s--t, but when he threatened to resign, they gave it to him. The next youngest guy in his class was half his age. They must have thought he was some far-out old man humping it over that course. I did it when I was 19 and it damn near wasted me. A tough motherf---er. He finished. He could have gone for General, but he went for himself instead...October 1967, on special assignment..., Kurtz staged Operation Archangel with combined local forces. Rated a major success. He received no official clearance. He just thought it up and did it. What balls! They were gonna nail his ass to the floorboards for that one, but after the press got ahold of it, they promoted him to Full Colonel instead. Ah man, the bullshit piled up so fast in Vietnam, you needed wings to stay above it.


27 posted on 08/18/2004 5:35:58 PM PDT by woofie ( It's not an optical illusion. It just looks like one.)
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To: TBarnett34
THis one has been going around for a few days. It's not a great "lie" because the langauge in the journal is ambiguous, or can certainly be spun that way. I.e., "not shot at yet" could be "not shot at yet, today." It is, afterall, just a journal.

There are better confrontations to have than this one.

28 posted on 08/18/2004 5:38:06 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

He lied to the congress and the entire country, too.


29 posted on 08/18/2004 5:43:39 PM PDT by hershey
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To: dmanLA
Kerry wrote in his notebook, 'A cocky feeling of invincibility accompanied us up the Long Tau shipping channel because we hadn't been shot at yet, and Americans at war who haven't been shot at are allowed to be cocky.'

Funny. I can't help thinking that sounds as if it might have been written retrospectively (possibly long after the event), rather than contemporaneously. Wish I could say why; it just strikes me that way. Doesn't sound like something a young fellow would write if he's still out in the bush and doesn't know whether he might be shot at in the next minute -- especially considering the context -- he's just had a slight wound from an explosion a week or two earlier (even if it had nothing to do with enemy fire). Sounds more like the sort of thing a somewhat older and wiser guy might write after he's seen combat, looking back on his earlier innocence.

30 posted on 08/18/2004 5:45:31 PM PDT by solzhenitsyn ("Live Not By Lies")
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To: dmanLA; Smartass; MeekOneGOP; Happy2BMe

31 posted on 08/18/2004 5:45:45 PM PDT by Boazo (LOSE THE TAG LINE)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1193345/posts <-- Cross reference (same subject)
32 posted on 08/18/2004 5:50:37 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: dmanLA

33 posted on 08/18/2004 5:51:43 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: solzhenitsyn

PS to my post no. 30: One thing for certain -- it was clearly written by someone who already had a well-developed, snotty attitude toward Americans.


34 posted on 08/18/2004 5:52:49 PM PDT by solzhenitsyn ("Live Not By Lies")
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To: dmanLA

35 posted on 08/18/2004 5:54:55 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: Cboldt

not exactly, unless one develops a new cockiness on a daily basis after having previously been shot at ... he stated later in that journal entry that he had the cockiness of one who'd not yet been shot at ....


36 posted on 08/18/2004 6:09:47 PM PDT by EDINVA (t)
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To: dmanLA

INTREP


37 posted on 08/18/2004 6:12:43 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Secularization of America)
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To: Dark Wing

ping


38 posted on 08/18/2004 7:00:18 PM PDT by Thud
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To: solzhenitsyn
Both points are well taken.

I don't like the cocky bit either. I don't like the reference to Americans are allowed to be cocky because he's saying the whole group is like that, i.e., he's speaking for all....just like when he came home.

39 posted on 08/18/2004 7:01:48 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: dmanLA

More important than this possible lie is the unambiguous lie about being present at the VVAW meeting where the assassination of Senators was discussed.

We can ask of John Kerry as Cicero asked of Catiline:

---When, O Catiline, do you mean to cease abusing our patience? How long is that madness of yours still to mock us? When is there to be an end of that unbridled audacity of yours, swaggering about as it does now? Do not the nightly guards placed on the Palatine Hill--do not the watches posted throughout the city--does not the alarm of the people, and the union of all good men--does not the precaution taken of assembling the senate in thus most defensible place--do not the looks and countenances of this venerable body here present, have any effect upon you? Do you not feel that your plans are detected? Do you not see that your conspiracy is already arrested and rendered powerless by the knowledge which every one here possesses of it? What is there that you did last night, what the night before-- where is it that you were--who was there that you summoned to meet you--what design was there which was adopted by you, with which you think that any one of us is unacquainted?---


40 posted on 08/18/2004 8:11:30 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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