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What exactly is the purpose of the Glock trigger safety (sincere vanity)?
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Posted on 08/16/2004 9:23:36 PM PDT by rudy45

Please don't flame me for this question. I have shot Glocks on several occasions, and have seen and used the trigger safety.

I'm still unclear, however, what this safety is supposed to do. Assuming that its purpose is to prevent accidental discharges, how does this safety do so? If (for example) a branch catches the trigger, wouldn't the Glock discharge regardless of the trigger safety? Thanks.


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To: quidnunc

Um, I figure you already got dinged down the list, but it bears repeating: with three internal safeties, there is no such thing as an accidental discharge with a Glock - only negligent discharges; i.e. you pulled the trigger.


61 posted on 08/16/2004 10:51:58 PM PDT by bt_dooftlook ((Kerry/Edwards - Stay the Coarse))
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To: Billthedrill
Congrats on a fine firearm with the family history to go with it. If you decide to shoot it regularly and have not yet done so, get one of the loading/unloading tools made for the .45 ACP wheelguns. It makes a difficult, finger chewing chore a breeze.

I have to ask, was there a holster that came with it? An original military holster can be worth as much or more than the revolver.
62 posted on 08/16/2004 10:56:49 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: bt_dooftlook
bt_dooftlook wrote: Um, I figure you already got dinged down the list, but it bears repeating: with three internal safeties, there is no such thing as an accidental discharge with a Glock - only negligent discharges; i.e. you pulled the trigger.

I can tell you've never searched a pitch-black warehouse for burglars with just a flashlight for illumination or chased a bad guy whom you have reason to believe may be armed through an overgrown, rubble-strewn field at night.

As the old saying goes s(tuff) happens and it is my judgement it would be more likely to happen with a Glock.

63 posted on 08/16/2004 11:20:13 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: Squantos
kind of a "SPOING" thang !

I laughed out loud the first time I dry fired a Glock. spoink.
What the... HAHAHAHAHA. Mattel?

...first trip to the range, I got over it.

64 posted on 08/17/2004 2:57:07 AM PDT by glock rocks
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To: rudy45

Why is this posted under "News/Activism"?

What are you going to do, a political shooting with your glock?


65 posted on 08/17/2004 3:13:21 AM PDT by AmericaUnited (It's time someone says the emperor has no clothes.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

You are correct, I currently have none.

I am leaning toward either Sig P232 or P239 (in .40 SW). I know that the former (though easier to conceal) has issues with stopping power, but I just love it.


66 posted on 08/17/2004 3:32:15 AM PDT by rudy45
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To: btcusn

Yep. I don't worry about mine either. Of course my carry 1911 is a new Scandium Commander which has the block.


67 posted on 08/17/2004 7:03:57 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: rudy45

The little trigger safety thingie ensures that it only fires from a firm full pull on the whole trigger - not if something just catches the side or corner of the trigger.


68 posted on 08/17/2004 7:28:14 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: wardaddy

Nope. There's a pin that blocks the forward progress of the firing pin. A pusher on the trigger moves that pin up and out of the way only when the trigger has been fully depressed. Should the striker somehow break loose from its half-cocked position (This is where it is when the pistol is charged), then it drives the firing pin into the safety pin rather than the primer of the chambered round.


69 posted on 08/17/2004 7:32:02 AM PDT by Redcloak (This is my most clever tag line ever!)
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To: Mike1973

Just a few more weeks, does anyone know if H&K will make high cap mags for their USP .45?



They already do. They are marked for cops. Should the ban expire, those would be legal for peons, including those from the past. There would be HK dealers who sell to cops who strt selling these to peons, so they will be on the market. If HK decides to honor the ban after its demise, there will still be a premium to pay.


70 posted on 08/17/2004 7:53:28 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: rudy45
To answer your question, the "safety" prevents discharge when a branch presses the main portion of the trigger, but does not prevent discharge when a branch presses the safety lever of the trigger.

Imagine trying the fire the gun (clamped in a vise) with a loop of string. If would be hard to get the string to rest on just the right spot of the trigger safety. I suspect that it the idea, so that non-finger-sized objects are unlikely to fire the gun.

I prefer a DA/SA setup that has a heavy first shot pull, and light pull for later shots.
71 posted on 08/17/2004 7:59:36 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Jeff Gordon
I am the only one that finds that little trigger safety thingy is a pain in the ... finger?

You may be the only one. I shoot several hundred rounds a week out of my Glock 34 and have never even thought about the trigger safety, much less felt pain.

I did wear a blister on the downside of my trigger finger when I IDPA classified for revolver with my Colt King Cobra. Never had that happen with my Smiths.

I still love em all!

BTW, I brought a new (to me) baby home from the gun show this weekend, a S&W Mdl 19-3, .357 Combat Masterpiece. Pinned and Recessed with target hammer and trigger.

Woohoo!

72 posted on 08/17/2004 8:10:05 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Sorry, he screwed up. Those of us who have had to fight for our rights to protect our homes and our families are infinitley more careful with our weapons. More stories of Peace Officers mis-handling their weapons emerge, on a daily basis, than folks like you and me going nuts because we have a gun and can't deal with the new-found power we've found.

30 years ago, most accidental/negligent discharges by cops were with wheel guns, now it's glocks. Wheel guns haven't changed and neither have cops. It's all in the numbers.

73 posted on 08/17/2004 8:27:04 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Cboldt
And on Browning's 1911 design too.

And Dan Wesson Pointman/Patriot designs.

74 posted on 08/17/2004 8:33:58 AM PDT by 4CJ (||) Men die by the calendar, but nations die by their character. - John Armor, 5 Jun 2004 (||)
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To: AdamSelene235
My wife shot every semi-auto she could get her hands on. She said none of them 'felt right'. Then she picked up my 629, closed her eyes, and brought it up. Her aim was dead on.

Needless to say that pistol now belongs to Mrs. L.

She does however allow me to shoot it occasionally.

Funny, the same thing happened to my stainless Ranch Model Mini-14 when I let her shoot that.

L

75 posted on 08/17/2004 8:47:42 AM PDT by Lurker ( Rope, tree, liberal. Adult assembly required.)
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To: wardaddy
I love Glocks, I compete with them, and under certain circumstances - open carry, home defense - they are my defensive sidearm of choice.

But they are not my first choice for CCW, for the reasons you've noted.

No harm, no foul, but I prefer true DA pistols for CCW.

76 posted on 08/17/2004 9:07:35 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: TC Rider; Jeff Gordon
You may be the only one. I shoot several hundred rounds a week out of my Glock 34 and have never even thought about the trigger safety, much less felt pain.

The 40SW Glocks tend to impart a lot of "sharp" recoil through the frame, most shooters notice a difference. The 9mm/45 Glocks are less sharp, more of a "push".

The recoil impulse from the 40SW seems to be somewhat more abrupt, and can be felt through the trigger. You stop noticing it after awhile though.

77 posted on 08/17/2004 9:13:33 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: rudy45; glock rocks

The Glock, the SIG 239 are fine rigs and I own samples of each. I have always disliked the S&W Autos and loved their revolvers so recently added to my one S&W Auto (An original ASP) and purchased a Scandium S&W 4040. Outstanding , lightweight, accurate and very easy to carry as it's toy like weight and design make it easy to shoot and carry. S&W Scored a major gold medal for a defensive carry pistola with that little rig.

Just a suggestion........Stay safe !


78 posted on 08/17/2004 9:19:43 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos
a Scandium S&W 4040

Just looked it up...I need a smaller BUG to carry when my 45 USP-C is inconvenient.

I've been leaning towards an Airweight .38 snub, but that 4040 might be the ticket. Better caliber, more capacity and it's not much bigger. Much like a Kahr, actually.

79 posted on 08/17/2004 9:30:32 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: xsrdx
Annnnnnnddddd if ya wait 28 or so days it comes with high capacity mags......:o) I actually keep mine in an ken null sholder rig when I have to use the brooks brothers uniform..... I'd like to tell ya it's better than a Kahr but I have never shot or handled a Kahr nor do I have friends or coworkers who have owned or shot a Kahr. I'll only comment on what I have used or owned.

For a carry a lot and shoot a little rig (except for the weekly trip to the range) the scandium S&W's are pretty good. I have the 329PD and the 340 and the little 317 snub .22 also and they are very good performers. The 329PD is 44 Mag but it only gets a diet of 44 specials in the lower 48. Look in webster under recoil and it says S&W 329PD loaded w/ full house 44 mag ammo. Stay safe !

80 posted on 08/17/2004 9:54:25 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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