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Official: Charley's Death Toll to Climb [Stacks Of Bodies at Mobile Home Park]
Yahoo News ^ | 8/14/04 | ALLEN G. BREED,

Posted on 08/14/2004 1:42:49 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: oceanview

Speaking from experience of living in Homestead Fl and having lived at the Virginia/NC border for years - one big reason why people do not leave, including me a few times (no, I'm not in a mobile home) is that you bug out time after time after time, and the hurricane doesn't even get close.

When Floyd was threatening my area a few years back, the Keys evacuated as well as mandatory evacuations for trailors/mobile homes in Homestead. People left, Floyd didn't even get close to us. The next time there was an evacuation for trailors, not as many people left. You become complacent, thinking it's not going to hit you. Even living in an area that has been destroyed by a storm.


361 posted on 08/14/2004 8:55:37 AM PDT by Brytani (Stop, hey, what's that sound, it's just John Kerry flip-flopping around!!!)
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To: texas booster

Maybe we don't shoot folks just yet. Watched an interview with a college age kid who wanted to surf the hurricane waves. Chickened out on the surfing, but had a house a couple of blocks off the beach that he waited it out on.

Seems like several dozen folks stayed on the island during the storm.


362 posted on 08/14/2004 8:55:44 AM PDT by texas booster (Make a resolution to better yourself and your community in '04 - vote Republican!)
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To: kattracks

FoxNews just confirmed 10 dead in Charlotte County area.

Death toll currently for the state of Florida: 15.


363 posted on 08/14/2004 8:57:24 AM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: Rapunzel; summer

I wish Freeper summer would check back in. I'm not positive which community she lives in, but she was posting up until about noon yesterday, and nothing since. I know she was in the general path of the storm along the coast. Hopefully, it's just a matter of a loss of power, but it does have me concerned.


364 posted on 08/14/2004 9:03:52 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: TomGuy
Here's a current idea of the storm's location:


365 posted on 08/14/2004 9:06:43 AM PDT by Darnright
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To: All

No one will really like this, but best we get it said.

Charlotte and Lee counties were strong Bush counties in 2000. These people need NOT to leave the state. They need to find a place to recover locally, and get reregistered in their new temporary homes. We'll need their votes in November.

A hurricane must not be allowed to deliver Florida to a pro abortion candidate.


366 posted on 08/14/2004 9:10:14 AM PDT by Owen
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To: oceanview
but there wasn't alot of pointed emphasis that a cat 4 was coming up charlotte harbor for a direct hit.

Sigh.

There was a MANDATORY evacuation order for mobile homes and RV's in Charlotte County(including Punta Gorda) for more than 24 hours before the storm struck. Hurricane WARNINGS were in place even before that. Every person living in a hurricane prone area has repeatedly heard and been warned about how dangerous and unpredictable hurricanes are. Everyone living in a mobile home has repeatedly heard that they are vulnerable to extremely high winds. The gov't can only do so much, at some point only the individual can be held responsible for his choices.(Shouldn't that go without saying on a conservative site?)

There will be a massive attempt by the media to shift all blame to the Bush's, the local gov'ts, and the weather agencies rather than those who chose to ignore the many warnings put out. Please don't give any kind of legitimacy to these politically-driven slander attempts.

367 posted on 08/14/2004 9:11:07 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: ovrtaxt; JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; ...
Well, we lucked out big-time. The eye was coming right at us here in Venice, and then, at the last minute, the storm made a 15-degree turn to the northeast, and the eye skimmed by us about thirty miles to the east. You've probably seen the news of what happened to the two main communities around Charlotte Harbor where the storm entered, Port Charlotte and Punta Gorda, got wasted. Arcadia, about fifty miles from there, also got wiped. But all I had to do this morning was get the storm shutters off the windows and clean up about 4 trash cans of stuff that blew down off the trees, and that was it.

I’ve included a pic for the shooters’ group that I thought might enjoy. This was taken after Charley passed in Pt. Charlotte. Funny how the liberal newspapers immediately shut up about us “gun toting whackos” when reality bitch-slaps them across the face like this storm did. Note also the lettering on the wall in the background.


368 posted on 08/14/2004 9:16:16 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: HurriCaine; Admin Moderator

A new freeper by the name of 'Hurricaine' posted a thread with this information back around midnight, 'Substantial loss of life with Hurricane Charley'. The thread was quickly pulled and the poster banned.

Perhaps he was a retread troll, or perhaps he should be reinstated in good standing?


369 posted on 08/14/2004 9:18:04 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat

I'm still amazed that Freepers would think the government is so stupid not to tell people to leave there is a storm on the way. Hurricanes are not like tornados of earthquakes where there is little notice. People are told days in advance to start packing up.


370 posted on 08/14/2004 9:18:34 AM PDT by Brytani (A changing mind is a terrible thing to waste - Vote John Kerry)
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To: Brytani

some people just like the fit of their tin foil hats!


371 posted on 08/14/2004 9:21:18 AM PDT by LBelle
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To: Crazieman

Captiva island appears to be a small barrer island less then 1/2 mile wide and about 4 or 5 miles long. Why would someone build a house on a little barrer island knowing that huricanes happen all the time?


372 posted on 08/14/2004 9:22:36 AM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: elfman2
When these people went to bed on Thursday, Charlie was barely a Cat 1, and predicted to hit Tampa, 75 miles away from Punta Gorda, at a strong Cat 1 or weak 2. At 9 AM Charlie was barely a Cat 2, still aiming at Tampa. I have never seen anything like this: I heard that most of those communities didn’t call for a mandatory evacuation of trailers, unlike where I live in the Keys.

Wrong. When these people went to bed they were under a MANDATORY evacuation order for all RV and trailer parks in Charlotte County(which includes Punta Gorda.), which had been in effect since 3pm.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1191393/posts?page=324#324

373 posted on 08/14/2004 9:25:44 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Joe Brower
Thanks for posting the photo.

Prayers to all in FL.

374 posted on 08/14/2004 9:26:05 AM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: Dog Gone

It is probably just as you said, a power loss, lots of people are without power right now and can't send messages out.
orlando is one area that has massive power outages but hopefully will get back up soon.
Prayers for everyone who is in the path of the storm and for those waiting to hear from them.


375 posted on 08/14/2004 9:26:41 AM PDT by mean lunch lady (I'm from Flori-duh, Land of the Hanging Chad...)
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To: jpsb

*Captiva island appears to be a small barrer island less then 1/2 mile wide and about 4 or 5 miles long. Why would someone build a house on a little barrer island knowing that huricanes happen all the time?*

How 'bout because it's beautiful living on an island. We pay outrageous amounts of money for smaller homes (I went from 4000+ square feet in NC to less than 2000 in the Fl keys) and really outrageous windstorm insurance premiums (ours is well over $6k per year, in addition to our regular homeowners policy) but that is the price you pay to live in paradise.

Why do people live in California, where an earthquake can destroy their homes? Or in Kansas, where a tornado can destroy theirs?

Living in a hurricane zone requires planning and can be expensive, but when the storms aren't here it's quite nice.


376 posted on 08/14/2004 9:28:10 AM PDT by LBelle
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To: who knows what evil?
Hurricanes are UNPREDICTABLE...you can have access to all the meteorological experts and computer technology in the world, and a hurricane can STILL do the UNEXPECTED

I am frankly amazed that this is even being discussed.

What part of An Act of God do these people not understand?????

377 posted on 08/14/2004 9:29:27 AM PDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
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To: texas booster

With a shotgun sitting on a chair beside him, Terry Frye sits in front of his home, which was devastated by Hurricane Charley in Port Charlotte, Fla. early Aug. 14, 2004. Rescuers raced into southwest Florida Saturday to search for victims and help survivors of Hurricane Charley, a devastating storm that leveled buildings and left up to one million without power. Photo by Marc Serota/Reuters

378 posted on 08/14/2004 9:32:14 AM PDT by theophilusscribe ("America is too great for small dreams." —Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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Charley Leaving 'Number of Fatalities'

Wayne Sallade, Charlotte County's director of emergency management, said there were 10 confirmed deaths in the county, but an exact total was not available. "Not hundreds. I would hope that it would be limited to dozens, if that," Sallade said.

379 posted on 08/14/2004 9:33:48 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Howlin
What part of An Act of God do these people not understand?????

Give the lady a

Big Ceegar!!

Someday, I predict that someone will file suit claiming that the use of that disclaimer is unconstitutional.

380 posted on 08/14/2004 9:33:48 AM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and sign up for a monthly donation.)
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