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To: phxaz
"where is the disaster?"

Disaster or not to his campaign (the Left won't give a flip), the fractured integrity of Kerry's Vietnam recollections necessarily brings into question his entire testimony regarding the War in Vietnam. The Left built their sand castle of identity, for the most part, in that era and on those fallacious stories. Repudiating John Kerry openly and publicly on this issue undermines the entire identity of 60's radical, anti-war, anti-American liberal Leftists. This may or may not be a disaster for the Kerry/Edwards campaign, but ultimately it IS a disaster for the Left as a whole. They are a fraud! Additionally, the 'outing' of Kerry will validate the existance and the efforts of hundreds of thousands of good men and their noble endeavor in Southeast Asia.

Atos

23 posted on 08/13/2004 3:26:46 PM PDT by Mr.Atos
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To: Mr.Atos

Here are the positives that the swiftboat vets have achieved already:

1. The Kerry campaign is off-message, distracted, and having to call in DNC operatives and other hacks.
2. The Kerry campaign has had to call in chits with the media before it wanted to -- will hurt them later
3. It undermines the basic theme of the campaign -- war hero
4. It drives up Kerry's negatives
5. It lays the foundation for what is to come next -- Kerry's anti-war activities and the assault on his Senate record.


33 posted on 08/13/2004 3:29:54 PM PDT by mwl1
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To: Mr.Atos

thanks for the considered reply. good for the vets. they will get incinerated along with the rest of us when kerry fails in this war. the left doesnt need to be exposed as frauds. thats common knowledge. i dont see a disaster for the left either.


48 posted on 08/13/2004 3:35:22 PM PDT by phxaz (7 minutes of composure. 37 minutes of paralysis.)
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To: Mr.Atos; Warrior Nurse; Taxman; krunkygirl; Dutchgirl; antaresequity; OXENinFLA; votelife; ...
Additionally, the 'outing' of Kerry will validate the existance and the efforts of hundreds of thousands of good men and their noble endeavor in Southeast Asia.

I believe this is a real benefit for me, personally along with all my other brothers from 33 years ago. A good thing about Kerry making it the center piece of his campaign and bragging about being a hero, is that awoke many Vietnam veterans and now they are telling the story of Kerry and his lies to their kids, grandkids, coworkers, friends and neighbors. Many of us had never thought we would be able to rid ourselves of the scourge of his lies, and many hadn't discussed their feelings about it for many, many years.

I work with a democRAT who is in his 30's. He had no idea of what Kerry did in 1971. He wondered why I was sooooo angry at Kerry and I have been 'educating' him for the past couple months. He hasn't quit drinking the Kerry Kool-Aid just yet, but he has told me a number of times he has learned so much about the Vietnam veterans and what we went through. I think when the Swifties keep plugging and hopefully get on a broadcast network, many like him will come to distrust the FRAUD / TRAITOR.

I know many Vietnam vets that I work with who have regained some confidence that Hanoi John will be exposed since the Swifties started coming forward. It has help ease the knots in many of our guts.

As a Marine, (we are know to bash sailors), I can honestly say that the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth is the greatest bunch of sailors I ever saw! They make me VERY PROUD!

Any of you folks feel the same kinda effects?

140 posted on 08/13/2004 4:32:00 PM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John lies!)
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To: Mr.Atos
The Left built their sand castle of identity, for the most part, in that era and on those fallacious stories.

Is it not truly amazing and terrifying that the Democrats repeatedly nominate pathological liars, that their entire strategy is to don a mask of "moderation" and hide everything they really stand for, and that despite this they have nearly half of the country in their thrall?
161 posted on 08/13/2004 5:12:32 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Mr.Atos

I was just discussing this very same concetp with my husband this afternoon. Although they want to protect their guy, the vitriol is so out of proportion that something else is going on.

Their entire ethos is under fire. They are in danger of being unmasked as dirty little cowards and not the high minded peacenicks that they have pretended to be.


203 posted on 08/13/2004 7:51:40 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Kerry/Edwards. A pig in a dress is still a pig.)
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