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Keyes wants legislators, not you, to pick senators
Daily Herald ^ | 8/13/04 | John Patterson

Posted on 08/13/2004 11:22:59 AM PDT by Aquinasfan

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To: billbears
This would be a good thing.

Yep. Kudos to Ambassodor Keyes and GA Sen. Zell Miller, both men who understand that Senators should represent the states against the federal behemouth, not to be a part of it.

61 posted on 08/13/2004 11:49:02 AM PDT by 4CJ (||) Men die by the calendar, but nations die by their character. - John Armor, 5 Jun 2004 (||)
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To: Zavien Doombringer



No prob. ;)

Just didn't want to get zotted on my third day. :D


62 posted on 08/13/2004 11:49:07 AM PDT by Repairman Jack
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To: Aquinasfan

IF, IF, IF, IF, IF,

THE LEGISLATORS were not composed almost entirely of

MONEY GRUBBING LAWWWWWYERRRRRS!!!!!

I'd sure consider it.

We, the populace, have certainly not chosen very well--witness the high percentage of brazen traitors.

Given the mass media influences and the rising

IDIOCY LEVELS of the populace,

having even a flawed buffer between the ignorant and the final vote would be SOME slight insurance . . . one would hope . . . could pretend?


63 posted on 08/13/2004 11:51:23 AM PDT by Quix (PRAYER WARRIORS, DO YOUR STUFF! LIVES AND NATIONS DEPEND ON IT)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

Millionaires like John Corzine deadline shenanigans like Luatneburg and "New Yorkers" like Hillary have me conviced. Repeal the XVII and the XVI while we are at it.


64 posted on 08/13/2004 11:51:32 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (This is my truth. I am a football fan American -- R.L. 8/13/04)
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To: Servant of the 9

Nonsense it has no effect on federalism.


65 posted on 08/13/2004 11:52:31 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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To: Repairman Jack

I'm wondering how you link direct election to the "beginning of the decline of the Republic?" Seems tenuous, at best.


66 posted on 08/13/2004 11:53:20 AM PDT by johnfrink
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To: Aquinasfan
"He does still support repeal of the 17th Amendment,"......

So do I.

67 posted on 08/13/2004 11:55:05 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: johnfrink


It's not the only thing that happened, but it was part of the larger movement of the central government usurping the powers of the states, and the country moving away from the intentions of the Founding Fathers.


68 posted on 08/13/2004 11:55:52 AM PDT by Repairman Jack
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To: Aquinasfan
Obviously this isn't at the top of his agenda. But it makes him look bad, which is enough justification for demagogic story.

Too bad the writer didn't feel compelled to write a piece about Keyes' opponents support for infanticide, a slightly more pressing issue.

How does it make him look bad? That was the way Senators were selected from the time the Constitution was adopted until the populist "reforms" of almost a century ago. The whole point of federalism was that the electorate picked the members of the House, the state legislators picked the Senate, and the Electoral College picked the President. There is absolutely nothing wrong about putting things back the way they were originally supposed to work.

69 posted on 08/13/2004 11:56:02 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (What part of "lo yihyeh lekhah 'elohim 'acherim `al panay" DON'T you understand???)
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To: GetZarqawiNow
I'm still on the fence in this race because Keyes has yet to show me he can win. If I don't see some major movements from him, I think I'll vote Libertarian or leave the Senate line blank.

So....Libertarian and "blank" are both polling above 50%?????

70 posted on 08/13/2004 11:57:17 AM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: dts32041
The states have lost to much power and that can be attributed to the the 17th amendment.

How so?

71 posted on 08/13/2004 11:57:49 AM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Repairman Jack
Wow, your third day and you know about "Zot" :) Welcome to FreeRepublic.

Where we are always indulging and forever learning...

72 posted on 08/13/2004 12:00:22 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (I am not late for Zots, I have stealth Zot capability.....)
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To: harrycarey
If Keyes wants to win an election of the general population, he will have to learn to stay on target.

Keyes didn't bring the issue up as far as I know. The reporter did.

73 posted on 08/13/2004 12:01:05 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Zavien Doombringer



Long time lurker, first time poster. :)

As a newbie, I know I'm suspect - whether I started posting on day one or opened an account and let it sleep while I watched for a while.

So I'll try to be on good behavior. :)


74 posted on 08/13/2004 12:01:32 PM PDT by Repairman Jack
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To: Aquinasfan
But it makes him look bad,

It does? Not to me.

75 posted on 08/13/2004 12:02:17 PM PDT by Protagoras (" I believe that's the role of the federal government, to help people"...GWB, 7-23-04)
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To: Wiser now
That might have been a good idea then, today, I don't think so.

Why?

76 posted on 08/13/2004 12:03:16 PM PDT by Protagoras (" I believe that's the role of the federal government, to help people"...GWB, 7-23-04)
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To: Wiser now

What are you talking about? The popular election of senators has done nothing but create a second House of Representatives. The original system was designed to make one of the legislative houses immune to the whims of the general public.


79 posted on 08/13/2004 12:08:10 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: The Wizard
with any luck, Alan will be able to explain to the dumber amoung us why this would be good.

The usual argument concerns the way in which power is allocated between the federal and state governments. It is thought by many that if Senators are chosen by and answerable to the state legislatures (rather than voters of states), then the Senators will be more reluctant to grant to the federal government powers historically exercised by state governments. To the extent that increases in the power of the federal government are attributable to mere power grabs as opposed to being a reflection of changing realities and changing perceptions of realities, the argument is probably a legitimate one.

80 posted on 08/13/2004 12:08:25 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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