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CHARLEY BECOMES A (CATEGORY 4 Now!!) HURRICANE (18 ft. storm surge)
NHC ^ | 08-13-2004 | Forecaster Lawrence

Posted on 08/13/2004 10:08:09 AM PDT by Jeff400000

000 WTNT33 KNHC 131655 TCPAT3 BULLETIN HURRICANE CHARLEY INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 17A NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL 1 PM EDT FRI AUG 13 2004

...CHARLEY STRENGTHENS AS IT HEADS TOWARD FLORIDA WEST COAST...

A HURRICANE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE FLORIDA KEYS FROM THE DRY TORTUGAS TO THE SEVEN MILE BRIDGE...AND FOR THE FLORIDA WEST COAST FROM EAST CAPE SABLE NORTHWARD TO THE STEINHATCHEE RIVER. A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED WITHIN THE WARNING AREA DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS. PREPARATIONS SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION.

THE TROPICAL STORM WARNING FOR THE FLORIDA AND GEORGIA COASTS WERE RECENTLY EXTENDED SOUTHWARD TO JUPITER INLET FLORIDA AND ARE NOW IN EFFECT FROM THE SOUTH SANTEE RIVER SOUTH CAROLINA TO JUPITER INLET. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE FLORIDA KEYS FROM THE SEVEN MILE BRIDGE TO OCEAN REEF...AND ALONG THE SOUTH FLORIDA MAINLAND FROM OCEAN REEF TO EAST CAPE SABLE...INCLUDING FLORIDA BAY AND LAKE OKEECHOBEE.

A HURRICANE WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM FLAGLER BEACH FLORIDA NORTHWARD TO THE SAVANNAH RIVER NEAR THE GEORGIA/SOUTH CAROLINA BORDER.

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE SOUTHEASTERN U.S. COAST FROM OCEAN REEF NORTHWARD TO SOUTH OF COCOA BEACH AND FROM THE SOUTH SANTEE RIVER NORTHWARD TO OREGON INLET NORTH CAROLINA INCLUDING PAMLICO SOUND.

AT 1 PM EDT...1700Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE CHARLEY WAS LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 25.7 NORTH...LONGITUDE 82.5 WEST OR ABOUT 70 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OF FORT MYERS FLORIDA.

CHARLEY IS NOW MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHEAST NEAR 20 MPH AND THIS MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TODAY WITH AN INCREASE IN FORWARD SPEED. ON THIS TRACK...THE CENTER OF THE HURRICANE SHOULD REACH THE COAST IN THE VICINITY OF CHARLOTTE HARBOR LATER THIS AFTERNOON.

RECENT REPORTS FROM A RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT THE MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS HAVE INCREASED TO NEAR 125 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS...CATEGORY THREE ON THE SAFFIR/SIMPSON HURRICANE SCALE. THESE STRONGEST WINDS ARE CONFINED TO A SMALL AREA WITHIN A FEW MILES FROM CHARLEYS CENTER.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 30 MILES... 45 KM... FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 105 MILES...165 KM.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 964 MB...28.46 INCHES.

STORM SURGE FLOODING IN THE FLORIDA KEYS WILL BE SUBSIDING LATER TODAY. STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 10 TO 13 FEET IS EXPECTED NEAR AND SOUTH OF THE WHERE THE CENTER CROSSES THE FLORIDA WEST COAST. STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 4 TO 7 FEET ALONG AND NEAR THE GEORGIA COAST IN THE NEXT 24 HOURS WITH LESSER FLOODING TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES ARE LIKELY ALONG CHARLEYS PATH ACROSS THE EASTERN UNITED STATES. THESE RAINS COULD CAUSE LIFE-THREATENING FLASH FLOODS.

ISOLATED TORNADOES ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS PARTS OF SOUTHERN AND CENTRAL FLORIDA INCLUDING THE FLORIDA KEYS TODAY.

REPEATING THE 1 PM EDT POSITION...25.7 N... 82.5 W. MOVEMENT TOWARD...NORTH-NORTHEAST NEAR 20 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...125 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 964 MB.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT 3 PM EDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 5 PM EDT.

FORECASTER LAWRENCE


TOPICS: Breaking News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bush43; charley; charlie; elections; fl; florida; hugelosses; hurricane; hurricanecharley; hurricanecharlie; jeb; jebbush; politics; weather
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To: Wampus SC

Wampus, I have not been able to be on the Charley thread since about 4:00 PM yesterday. Now I am hopelessly behind. There are over 2800 posts. I had relatives in Fla so I tracked the thread all day yesterday. I think they are OK.

However, Florence which you mention is familiar. I stayed there a couple of weeks ago enroute to NMyrtle Beach. As I understood from the Weather Channel last night, anyone between the ocean and Rt 501 were being evacuated. Where did it come ashore? Little River? Ocean Isle? Wilmington? (I stayed in Ocean Isle for a time after leaving NMB. Not much room for margin there. At high tide, the canals' water is already within 3-4 feet of cars parked under the beach houses....) How about the Outer Banks? Did it hit there? I am scheduled to arrive there with friends on Dec 26 provided the place is still there....


2,861 posted on 08/14/2004 1:24:59 PM PDT by ZOTnot ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."--Hillary)
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To: BurbankKarl

Downgrading to TS status is good news.

I was just listenting to someone on FNC interviewing the deputy director of Virginia EMA.........I wish these "reporters" would get their geography straight........he started asking her a question speaking of the DelMarVA peninsula (which is where I live) and ended the question referencing Virginia Beach and Norfolk - both on the otherside of the Chesapeake Bay from heere.....sheesh.


2,862 posted on 08/14/2004 1:26:21 PM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy's driving has killed more people than second hand smoke)
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To: CindyDawg
I would like to help, but not thru the Red Cross. Any suggestions?

The Salvation Army may have relief operations down here similar to the Red Cross. Perhaps their website offers a way to donate. Another possibility is the Southern Baptist Convention. They have a well-established relief "army" which mobilizes in response to disasters like this. They bring in mobile kitchens, supplies of staple items, and work crews to clear up debris. You might see if they offer a way to donate.

2,863 posted on 08/14/2004 1:37:20 PM PDT by dukeman
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To: CindyDawg

I was thinking that, too. I'm going w/Salvation Army.


2,864 posted on 08/14/2004 1:39:43 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (If only hamsters could vote.......)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Howdy.


As much as I want to help - I want to see what happens around here tonight.........we have had so much flooding recently I have a feeling I may need to offer help in my own backyard first.

Hubby got an inter-company memo this morning looking for volunteers to go down to help out their folks there.


2,865 posted on 08/14/2004 1:45:08 PM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy's driving has killed more people than second hand smoke)
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To: Brad's Gramma
Yeah, I'll probably work thru both. I want to make sure my money gets to Florida. I think I've mentioned this here before but do you remember when a tornado hit a retirement center in Florida? It was next to the baseball camp.

Well anyway there was this elderly woman crying and stating her husband dead and her home destroyed and she just wanted to die too. My husband wanted to donate a used RV we had to her. He would probably have even delivered it. He called Red Cross. They weren't interested and instructed us to sell it and just send them the money. We quit donating after that. I'm sure they do a lot of good work but.....

2,866 posted on 08/14/2004 2:01:09 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: sissyjane

well, now FNC is only saying 15 deaths? But they themselves interviewed that woman from the hospital who said 150?

have there been any other reports?


2,867 posted on 08/14/2004 2:03:48 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: agrace

Oh what a small world indeed! Yes Conyngham is beautiful and the school is a good one so the property has gone up some what. It took about 10 years for our house to go up in value, now they sell right away. Tell your parents the houses going up in that area are HUGE and have gone up in price.


2,868 posted on 08/14/2004 2:07:44 PM PDT by angcat (Medicate me please!)
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To: agrace

Oh I work with all Libs. they hate Bush. HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP. I am the only one with the Bush/Cheney sign on the lawn.


2,869 posted on 08/14/2004 2:08:48 PM PDT by angcat (Medicate me please!)
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To: oceanview

I think what FNC is reporting is the "confirmed" number that they are getting from "officials"

That doesn't mean the earlier report from the hospital worker was incorrect - just it is not the "official number"

But right now - I'm getting extremely annoyed with Shep Smith and his sanctimonious attitude.


2,870 posted on 08/14/2004 2:10:10 PM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy's driving has killed more people than second hand smoke)
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To: oceanview

this video on CNN is amazing, shot in port charlotte as the eye hit.


2,871 posted on 08/14/2004 2:21:34 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: CindyDawg

Just got back on.

If you just HAVE to give money to something..........
DO NOT GIVE IT TO THE RED CROSS!

Remember the mess about 9/11? The Red Cross did not give all the money that was given, that was supposed to go to the families.
I don't believe it did.
FOX and O'Reilly, tried to get to the bottom of it.
But I just wasn't satisfied about it.

Instead they saved it for other disasters. Not necessarily in these United States. The Red Cross is world wide.

It all sounds good.......But the money you give to the Red Cross may buy toiletries for Saddam Hussein, or other terrorists.

To say the least, I would give to charities that I know
serve the Lord.

I would not give the Red Cross one red cent!!!

GIVE TO THE SALVATION ARMY!!!

This is my opinion!


2,872 posted on 08/14/2004 2:31:55 PM PDT by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my pardon with His blood, Hallelujah!!! What a Savior!!!)
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To: Gabz

Our TS warning just got extended from 6pm to 9pm...and we're still under that tornado watch till 9pm. Rain is picking up and the winds here are 25-30mph.


2,873 posted on 08/14/2004 2:47:25 PM PDT by Severa (I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
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To: Coleus

I didn't know there was a mill in Fort Myers. I hope it was totally wiped out. Abortions are evil.

We were supposed to fly down there this past Saturday. Luckily our flight was cancelled by the airlines so we were not penalized. We've rescheduled for next weekend. My husbands sister is terminally ill and it will be a goodbye visit for my daugher and I. My husband may make one more trip.


2,874 posted on 08/14/2004 2:49:02 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Severa

Ours has been til 9 for quite some time. and flooding until morning.

It has not stopped raining here at all this afternoon - although it hasn't been a pounding rain - just staedy.

But it is absolutely deadly calm.

I'm not sure I like the last statement I heard that it would start tracking back east once it hit Norfolk and hit the Atlantic at the mouth of the Chesapeake........not good ......but at least it's moving rather fast and the winds have subsided a bit.


2,875 posted on 08/14/2004 2:57:11 PM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy's driving has killed more people than second hand smoke)
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anyone have damage reports for sanibel? all i've been seeing one tv is about punta gorda.


2,876 posted on 08/14/2004 3:14:45 PM PDT by Jape
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To: Severa
Prayers that Charley will fly by your area fast without any real damage!!!

Now all we have to do is watch TS Danielle and Earle - now moving through the Atlantic.

You can see all at this WPTF weather website.

I know, I know - it's hurricane season til the end of November - so this is not a surprise. But it does become a bit nervewracking......

(That WPTF Weather Guy - Accuweather's Joe Bastardi - has his own pay for his expertise business linked there at the WPTF website! Good for him. Entrepreneurize his Weather acumen. ....but I don't plan to pay for the expertize....still, not a bad idea for him to do that. Here's Joe Bastardi's Professional Weather Watching Service website for any who might be lurking and interested.) Joe accurately predicted Charley's intensification. There's a lot more to "payfor" weather stuff on this site.....just passing the info along for those who may want to spend some money. )

Once again - hope this storm speeds on by you in Va and on up and out. But it looks like it will hit some in the NE - hopefully not too severely.

2,877 posted on 08/14/2004 3:19:06 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Gabz; Severa

Accuweather had a Tornado warning in one SE Va county - at the mouth of the Chesapeake....hope things are ok there.


2,878 posted on 08/14/2004 3:21:22 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt; Severa

I just switched the TV to catch weather on a Norfolk station and it looks like Severa is getting the north eyewall right about now - so at 30 miles an hour I've got about 2 hours +/- for it to get here.

It's still raining, but it is still deadly calm. Hubby commented earlier we will know when it gets close because we will have to close the front door the living room and bedroom windows - as they all face south.


2,879 posted on 08/14/2004 3:34:11 PM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy's driving has killed more people than second hand smoke)
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To: Gabz

Ugh - no fun when the storm comes through in the dark of the night. Hope it flies by.


2,880 posted on 08/14/2004 3:42:54 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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