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We'll punish Bushes at the polls, immigrants promise
herald.com ^ | Aug. 06, 2004 | ALFONSO CHARDY achardy@herald.com

Posted on 08/07/2004 8:03:56 AM PDT by seastay

We'll punish Bushes at the polls, immigrants promise

Immigrant voters will show their displeasure with the Bush brothers for not doing enough to help undocumented migrants become legal, advocates say.

Leaders of several immigrant and labor rights organizations in South Florida on Thursday accused President Bush and his brother, Gov. Jeb Bush, of failing to keep promises to help undocumented migrants legalize their presence.

At a Miami news conference, speakers for the groups said immigrants who have become American citizens will vote against candidates who have not helped advance proposals that would enable illegal migrants to achieve legal status. The proposals are two congressional bills that would put migrant farmworkers and children of undocumented migrants on a track to legal residency and a plan to grant temporary residency to undocumented migrants from Haiti and the Dominican Republic.

''Immigrants are paying attention and, come Election Day, they will cast their ballots for public officials who deliver on their promises, not for those who continue to make empty promises,'' said Eliseo Medina, executive vice president of Service Employees International Union.

Taylor Gross, a White House spokesman, said President Bush is working with Congress in shaping his guest-worker program. Jacob DiPietre, a Gov. Bush spokesman, said his boss was studying the proposal.

Activists at the news conference said President Bush had offered to grant temporary work permits to illegal migrant workers but had done little to advance the project, and had also not objected to Republican lawmakers in Congress blocking a separate bill giving residency to migrant farmworkers.

They also took Gov. Bush to task for not following up on his recent statement that he would be ''inclined'' to support temporary protected status for Haitians. Immigrant advocates said the offer should also be extended to Dominicans.

DiPietre said Gov. Bush realizes only the federal government can grant temporary status.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bush43; illegals; jeb
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To: Grzegorz 246

Because you are polish and trying to do it legally. Mexico thinks it has specialy rights and apparently some here in our govt. do as well.


61 posted on 08/07/2004 11:46:45 AM PDT by PersonalLiberties (An honest politician is one who, when he's bought, stays bought. -Simon Cameron, political boss)
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To: Grzegorz 246

Actually It's not so simple to do it legally. It's very HARD to get immigration VISA to USA.


62 posted on 08/07/2004 11:52:05 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

I think immigration is pretty easy --- the USA takes in far more legal immigrants than any other nation does. We've doubled our population in less than 50 years --- through massive immigration. How much easier should we have to make it?


63 posted on 08/07/2004 11:52:39 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ

the USA takes in far more legal immigrants than any other nation does. FITZ

Excellent point that I think gets overlooked.


64 posted on 08/07/2004 11:54:12 AM PDT by PersonalLiberties (An honest politician is one who, when he's bought, stays bought. -Simon Cameron, political boss)
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To: Grzegorz 246

But you might be right --- it's very easy for Mexicans to immigrate here -- which is why they are the overwhelming portion of our legal immigrants --- but maybe not very easy for others who might have more education, work ability, and knowledge of our language.


65 posted on 08/07/2004 11:54:23 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: seastay
When will GOP politicians learn that pandering to traditional Rat voting blocks never works?

Never.

66 posted on 08/07/2004 11:56:31 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: John Jorsett

That just doesn't pass the smell test, does it, JJ? I would think that they'd be screaming for the illegals to go through what they've gone through, too.


67 posted on 08/07/2004 11:57:40 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: FITZ

"I think immigration is pretty easy"

No it isn't. I don't know current regulations, but some time ago I was a little interested and I heard that if some doesn't have close family in USA (parents or children) or doesn't have... at least 100.000 $, he has very little chance to get immigration VISA.
Sorry, but If I had 100.000 $, I would choose rather Bahama Islands.


68 posted on 08/07/2004 12:00:41 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: The Bat Lady

They don't; this article is pure BS, meant to keep the issue alive and scare the GOPers in the border states.


69 posted on 08/07/2004 12:01:29 PM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: ridesthemiles

I thought you had to be a citizen of US to vote??? So why aren't we showing drivers licenses, and if you don't have one...a birth certificate showing you were US born, and if you don't have that a green card. Othewise you don't vote!!
Absentee ballots must have those attached and certified by Courthouse. I have no problem with voting being a little more complicated....NO felon voting either. There should be a program of all voter names being run through the computer with SS numbers and if a felon conviction comes up when matched against felon lists in computer...OH well out goes the vote!


70 posted on 08/07/2004 12:02:34 PM PDT by Kackikat (,Kerry=the counterfeit, GWBush is the real deal!)
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To: Grzegorz 246
I can assure you not many of the legal immigrants from Mexico have $100,000 --- very many coming from Mexico are well over 65 and ill and indigent --- but they're being sponsored by family members here who made it in under the massive immigration fraud of the 80's amnesty. That was supposed to be for about 300,000 illegals who had lived in this country for at least 5 years but instead 3 million came pouring over the border -- many who had never stepped foot in the USA before that amnesty was announced. The proof of living here only required a notarized letter from anyone at all saying they had employed that person -- and nothing had to be proven. Since that time, these people have been using the family connections law to bring over any kind of relative --- not with $100,000 or any education.

Family connections should be thrown out fast ---- and let immigrants come in on their ability to be useful to this country.

71 posted on 08/07/2004 12:07:20 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

I don't believe that the article is saying that illegals are going to vote to punish Bush (although some illegals do vote), but rather it is saying that relatively recent immigrants who are now citizens and sympathize with the illegals will vote to punish Bush. That would generally include former illegal immigrants who have been amnestied and now have citizenship status as well as legal immigrants generally from the same countries as the illegals. For example, those represented by groups such as La Raza (and there are many more).


72 posted on 08/07/2004 12:12:03 PM PDT by bam
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To: PersonalLiberties
Another obvious indication is Bush pushing to gain greater access of Mexican immigrants and his opposition to legislation requiring that key components of strategic national defense system be domestically produced.

73 posted on 08/07/2004 12:27:46 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Grzegorz 246
It depends on your point of view. The U.S. is currently taking around a million legal immigrants per year which I believe is more than all other countries combined -- so it is a lot. But, those 1 million are being taken from a world population pool of approximately 6 billion people. Assuming that probably at least 3-4 billion of those would consider themselves better off here and want to come, 1 million/4 billion is a relatively small number. Not a great chance of winning the lottery, assuming the chances of all entrants are equal.

It also depends on where you are. For example, we generally won't touch the farmers being killed in South Africa with a 10 foot pole, but bring in Somalis, Bantus, etc. in groups of thousands.
74 posted on 08/07/2004 12:29:03 PM PDT by bam
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To: William Terrell

I am not specifically sure what you are addressing there. I do know that part of the FTAA is that the poorest countries in that agreement will have priority in our govt. contracted projects.


75 posted on 08/07/2004 12:32:30 PM PDT by PersonalLiberties (An honest politician is one who, when he's bought, stays bought. -Simon Cameron, political boss)
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To: bam

The United States has taken in thousands of South Africans over the years, even before 1994. The US isn't their only option and most are preferring to go to the UK and to Australia and New Zealand.


76 posted on 08/07/2004 12:33:32 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx; Libertarianize the GOP; B4Ranch; hedgetrimmer; longtermmemmory; spodefly; ...

ping


77 posted on 08/07/2004 12:36:07 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (http://www.numbersusa.com)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Special interest groups and their blood sucking lawyers will be the death of this nation.


78 posted on 08/07/2004 12:37:42 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: PersonalLiberties
I was naming off some other ways that are being use to break down our borders and self sufficiency as a nation.

79 posted on 08/07/2004 12:42:25 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
Self sufficient, come on get with the program. Globalism means we are interdependent not independent.Cannot grow our own food or supply our own military, of well. I am sure we can reply upon our enemies to do this for us ;->
80 posted on 08/07/2004 12:46:48 PM PDT by PersonalLiberties (An honest politician is one who, when he's bought, stays bought. -Simon Cameron, political boss)
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