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Posted on 08/05/2004 7:57:11 AM PDT by demlosers
Edited on 08/05/2004 8:28:31 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Wow! Anybody hear or read the reply to McCain from the Swift Boat Veterans? Pure class and a devastating ending statement. Paraphrasing...
"...we served with John Kerry, we knew him well, and Senator McCain did not."
This is not the same as was done against McCain.
These men are men who served with Kerry and found him terribly deficient.
If Viet Vets feel this strongly that Kerry betrayed them, then they should be allowed to speak. If those who served with him for his 4 short months (who else served just 4 months?), found him unfit for command and prone to exaggeration and misrepresentation, then they should have their hearing, as well.
Also the same group that at the SAME TIME suddenly pretends to love Vietnam veterans.
McCain must be angling for more oral gratification from Catty Kouric this year. I can't believe Bush is going to let this dirtbag speak at the convention.
Please, if anyone has a transcript of this reply, please post it ASAP. Thank you!
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It's all about turnout in most of these states. Why should it be only Bruce Springsteen, Moore, most of Hollywood, etc. who take part in helping turnout their favored base?
John McCain is scum!
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John McCain is scum, not a war hero, and as such, his character can and should be examined.
What is the real story behind his days as a POW? The U.S. Veteran Dispatch had an article in June of 1996 entitled "POW Songbird McCain Wrongly Described As A Hero." It recounted numerous instances where John McCain violated the Military Coda of Conduct, which specifically orders American personnel to give the enemy no information other than name, rank, serial number, and date of birth. It requires that they accept no favors from the enemy, and to make no written or oral statement disloyal to the United States.
The fact is, in exchange for better medical treatment, McCain violated this code four days after being captured on Oct. 26, 1967. In a U.S. News and World Report interview dated May 14, 1973, two months after he was released, McCain admitted that he exchanged military information in exchange for spending six weeks in a hospital normally reserve for North Vietnamese Military officers.
U.S. government records show that less than two weeks after he was taken to the hospital, Hanoi's press began quoting specific military information, including the name of the aircraft carrier on which McCain had been based, information about the location of rescue ships and the order of which his attack was supposed to take place. The records demonstrate, according to the Dispatch article that McCain continued to collaborate with the Communists after he recovered from his injuries. He did a number of propaganda broadcasts that were aimed at destroying the moral of American servicemen fighting in the jungles of South Vietnam, On June 4, 1969, a U.S. Wire Service story reported one of McCain's broadcasts.
The service reported "Hanoi has aired a broadcast in which the pilot son of the U.S. Commander in the Pacific, Adm. John McCain purportedly admits to having bombed civilian targets in North Vietnam and praised medical treatment he has received since being taken prisoner."
McCain committed other breaches of the Code of Conduct by meeting with and giving interviews to foreign news reporters and anti American delegations.
McCain admits to talking with numerous high-ranking North Vietnamese leaders, including General Vo Nguyen Giap, their Minister of Defense.
He also did a cozy interview over coffee, oranges, and cake wish a Cuban psychiatrist, which took place in the Hanoi office of the Committee for Foreign Cultural Relations.
He failed to "evade answering questions to the utmost of his ability;" by actually conversing with his interviewer in Spanish.
Perhaps these are some of the reasons why John McCain hip been so instrumental in discounting any suggestion that live prisoners of war still languish in Southeast Asia. It certainly does explain to me why he traveled to Hanoi in May of 1993 with soon-to-be Ambassador to Vietnam Pete Peterson, and convinced the Communist leadership to agree that they would NEVER MAKE PUBLIC THEIR INTERROGATION FILES OF AMERICAN POWs.
It should have made him ineligible to sit in judgment of those men who still wait for freedom. I believe it clearly makes him morally unfit to ever lead this nation, to be the Commander of all our armed forces someday.
http://www.namvets.com/Reading/john_mccain_is_no_war_hero.htm
McCain's actions have my blood boiling. I can't stand him, and I hope he loses his senate seat.
1. If John Kerry made an ad about GWB going "AWOL" would McCain condemn it?
2. Why is John McCain so quick to defend a man who disseminated propaganda that was used to torture him as a POW?
Excellent Comment. PING!
You forget the last part
"GOP says 'Good Riddance!'"
Ditto! He has much to hide. He should just shut his mouth.
believe me I wish he were running for re-election to. I would vote for his Dem opposition. I haven't voted for a dim since I was 25 or so, but I would make and exception in McCains case. He is a dim who just can't accept the fact.
"believe me I wish he were running for re-election to. I would vote for his Dem opposition. I haven't voted for a dim since I was 25 or so, but I would make and exception in McCains case. He is a dim who just can't accept the fact."
I'm in Ohio and I plan to vote for the Democrats that run against RINO's Voinovich and Dewine when the time comes.
And I've never voted for a Democrat on the Senate level before. As I noted in an email to Senator Voinovich two weeks ago, I don't trust the Democrats, but at least I know what they will do on any given vote. With Voinovich, and increasingly with DeWine, you never know what the hell either of them will do.
I'd rather have Senators that are entirely predictable in their positions, rather than faux Republicans playing "moderate".
1. violated the Military Coda of Conduct, which specifically orders American personnel to give the enemy no information other than name, rank, serial number, and date of birth
This is incorrect - and not part of the Code of Conduct. It does say "If I am captured I will continue to resist by all means available. I will make every effort to escape and to aid others to escape. I will accept neither parole nor special favors from the enemy."
2. No one is superman. Everyone breaks and has their limits. If John McCain traded some worthless, outdated info on the navy for some medical attention, it may have been the right move. Read "Five Years to Freedom" for more information on what POWs had to do to survive with honor.
3. There is a difference to aiding the enemy and being "polite" to get needed food and medicine. I would have to research more on what exactly John McCain did. There is worthless propaganda, there is propaganda made because your buddy has a gun to his head and there is aiding the enemy.
4. I give the benefit of the doubt to the POW
CBS Radio News is talking about this ad right now. Played a significant portion of the audio, then cited McCain's comments against it, and now reporting the Whitehouse is glad the Kerry Campaign understands what its like to be attacked in this manner.......LMAO!
It appears Senator Ketchup is okay dishing it out, but when it comes to return fire, he turns tail and whines.
Works for me.
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