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McCain condemns anti-Kerry ads, calls on White House to follow suit
Boston Globe ^ | 5 August 2004 | Ron Fournier

Posted on 08/05/2004 7:57:11 AM PDT by demlosers

Edited on 08/05/2004 8:28:31 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON (AP) Republican Sen. John McCain, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, called an ad criticizing John Kerry's military service ''dishonest and dishonorable'' and urged the White House on Thursday to condemn it as well.

''It was the same kind of deal that was pulled on me,'' McCain said in an interview with The Associated Press, referring to his bitter Republican primary fight with President Bush.


(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: ads; dishonest; dishonorable; getatigercage; mccain; militaryrecord; swiftboatveterans
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To: ElkGroveDan

We need 3 Johns now in that picture: John Kerri, John Edweirds, and John McAinal.


281 posted on 08/05/2004 9:33:18 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The Franchurian Dork Candidate, al Kerry, in his convention speech "Judge me by my record"...)
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To: Eva

"Actually, I think that McCain is speaking up because McCain has always been afraid that opponents would dredge up his cooperation with the Viet Cong while he was incarcerated at the Hanoi Hilton. As a matter of fact, I saw McCain on FOX in December of last year, claim that the post service actions of Kerry had been used to taunt him while he was a POW. Then a few months later, they were best friends again. My guess is that the Kerry campaign threatened to respond in kind if McCain kept it up."


Very well could be. JFKerry and McCain are playing with "fire" on this one.


282 posted on 08/05/2004 9:33:44 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: All

This isn't the WH's battle. This isn't ours.

Kerry has made his service an issue. He has given a false impression of support. He has amplified his record. He BETRAYED the Vietnam VETS when he returned home!

They have a RIGHT to address the Senator. They have a right to defend their honor and question his, if they have evidence that disputes his "heroism" claim.

I support their efforts. I'll defend them. Though not in relation to G.W.'s campaign. The two are not linked in the manner the press/dems will suggest.

The W.H., imo, should simply respond this isn't "their" battle. True enough. It isn't.


283 posted on 08/05/2004 9:33:59 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: montag813
When did anyone run ANY ads criticizing his experience in Vietnam???

I don't about any ads, but there has been plenty of background, "Chatter" (some of it, I've heard personally from folks I trust alot), about his behavior as a POW. If you'll look upthread a bit, you'll see some of that sort of thing.

284 posted on 08/05/2004 9:34:03 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
Why doesn't he ask Kerry to repudiate Moore-ons F9/11? At least these guys were there.

I have to second that idea!

Hi I'm Mike Moore, I can get away with anything and guess what, Senator McCain loves my work!

McCain, "I'll cover for you boys!"


285 posted on 08/05/2004 9:34:41 AM PDT by Major_Risktaker (I predict a easy Bush landslide.)
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To: wardaddy
bottomline: The Bald Asswipe knows that by admonishing them he becomes the story...which is what he craves.

Boy, you hit that one right on the head. These are guys who served w/Kerry. They know what they are talking about and last time I looked, they still had the right to speak and didn't need McCain's permission to do so.

Everytime I'm willing to give McCain a pass because of his POW experience, I end up wanting to send him to the Dims.

286 posted on 08/05/2004 9:34:44 AM PDT by radiohead
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To: radiohead

"My name is Steve Gardner. I served in 1966 and 1967 on my first tour of duty in Vietnam on Swift boats, and I did my second tour in '68 and '69, involved with John Kerry in the last 2 1/2 months of my tour. The John Kerry that I know is not the John Kerry that everybody else is portraying. I served alongside him and behind him, five feet away from him in a gun tub, and watched as he made indecisive moves with our boat, put our boats in jeopardy, put our crews in jeopardy... if a man like that can't handle that 6-man crew boat, how can you expect him to be our Commander-in-Chief?"
-- Steven Gardner

The above quote was from a press conference given at the National Press Club in Washington on May 4, 2004. You may view Steven’s comments at the following web site. Just scroll down to Steven’s picture and click on it.

http://www.swiftvets.com/index.php?topic=SwiftVetQuotes


Searching through that web site, you will find 250 men who served on Swift boats, including the entire chain of command above Lt. Kerry, agree with Steven Gardner that Kerry is not fit to be Commander-in-Chief. That compares to the 13 crew members who support his candidacy.


287 posted on 08/05/2004 9:35:25 AM PDT by LOC1
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To: All

McCain just gave the sSwiftvets great publicity and the networks have to cover them now.


288 posted on 08/05/2004 9:35:42 AM PDT by finnman69
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To: Soul Seeker

BIBGO! You've got it....McCain better sit back and listen before he says another word. He's playing a losing card.


289 posted on 08/05/2004 9:36:31 AM PDT by hoosiermama (19 five * meals for $200---"The sKerry-- Real Meal Deal")
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To: demlosers

a loose cannon


290 posted on 08/05/2004 9:36:44 AM PDT by y2k_free_radical (ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
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To: backtothestreets
It wasn't so very long ago members of each party would seek to purge their parties of misfits. It is honorable. It is healthy. It is the right thing to do.

Name a nationally known Democrat misfit that was "purged" in the last 25 years or so. Folks who saw the light, or at least felt the heat, and switched parties do not count.

291 posted on 08/05/2004 9:38:05 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Spok; All
"John Kerry IS making his Vietnam service the cornerstone for his campaign."

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Touche....

My father retired from the Navy as a Vice-Admiral. He absolutely despised John Kerry. Admiral Elmo Zumwalt similarly had nothing but disdain for Kerry also. Zumwalt's youngest son, Jimmy (I went to high school with him so I refer to him as "Jimmy") has come out against Kerry and recounted his father's opinion of him.

I remember quite vividly Kerry's statements condemning those who served honorably and have resented his lies for all these years.

Can all these folks who are speaking and have spoken out against Kerry be wrong? Hell no.

292 posted on 08/05/2004 9:38:19 AM PDT by daylate-dollarshort
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To: demlosers
Hey Rush! how are you???*

* Rush HAS to be following this thread. He's saying almost the same exact stuff.....

293 posted on 08/05/2004 9:39:26 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Strategery - "W" plays poker with one hand and chess with the other.)
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To: Owen

Relax, this does not hurt Bush. It doesn't help Bush, but it hurts Kerry with vets and their families/friends -- and totally takes him off-message.


294 posted on 08/05/2004 9:41:11 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: All

I'd just like to take a moment to thank Rush for rising in defense of these veterans. Knew I could count on him.

These men, and men like them, were abused 30 years ago by the same groups trying to tarnish them today. They deserve a solid defense from us this time around.


295 posted on 08/05/2004 9:43:52 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: isthisnickcool
Yeah. Amazing how only a few weeks ago Rush was praising McCain for doing a "Rope-a-Dope" on Kerry and now McCain is once again the enemy.

(I loathe McCain and always have so don't take this post as defending that ass)

296 posted on 08/05/2004 9:44:06 AM PDT by Undertow ("I have found some kind of temporary sanity...")
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To: Badeye

Rush just agreed with you about " McCain apparently believes the only Vietnam Veterans that should be allowed to speak are himself and Kerry. "


297 posted on 08/05/2004 9:44:09 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The Franchurian Dork Candidate, al Kerry, in his convention speech "Judge me by my record"...)
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To: cake_crumb
It's called freedom of speech, McStain. Get over it.

He doesn't have to, he'll just "tweak" CFR a bit to outlaw even more of it.

298 posted on 08/05/2004 9:44:33 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Great Post Conspiracy Guy!
Is this First Down in action?

_________________

“First Down Kerry”

We approached the landing zone, I was the first man down.
“First Down Kerry”, I was called, Air Cav had come to town.

299 posted on 08/05/2004 9:45:16 AM PDT by Major_Risktaker (I predict a easy Bush landslide.)
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To: Soul Seeker
"I'd just like to take a moment to thank Rush for rising in defense of these veterans. Knew I could count on him.

These men, and men like them, were abused 30 years ago by the same groups trying to tarnish them today. They deserve a solid defense from us this time around."


Yes!!!!!!

The battle is enjoined and "bring it on" JFKerry and Johnny "I approve this message" McCain. You wanted a "fight" and so you will have one, we will not let you denigrate and trash our real "WAR" heroes ever again../......
300 posted on 08/05/2004 9:47:12 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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