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Illinois GOP picks Alan Keyes to run against Obama!
illinoisleader.com ^ | August 4, 2004

Posted on 08/04/2004 6:13:51 PM PDT by tame

It's official! Yahoo!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: alankeyes; alankicksbutt; classicdebates; debatesforhistory; goalan; gopprimary; historicdebates; illinois; keyes
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To: Keyes2000mt

Good post!


1,041 posted on 08/04/2004 11:10:50 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: Howlin
...I resent Dick Cheney being used to justify Alan Keyes doing something that he himself said wasn't right in 2000.

I believe operative expression is "Well, if you want to play that way...." There is nothing wrong with a person who opposes a changing the rules (written or unwritten) taking advantage of the rule change if it occurs despite his opposition.

1,042 posted on 08/04/2004 11:12:09 PM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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To: TigersEye

I gave him money once... he didn't impress me. He's got talent, but does he have the discipline to put something together that's greater than himself? I am still waiting.


1,043 posted on 08/04/2004 11:12:40 PM PDT by thoughtomator (John Kerry reporting for duty - making sure that nobody interferes with Hillary's run in 2008)
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To: goldstategop
Barthwell is a RINO and I don't think too many GOPers in the Land Of Lincoln like him.

Barthwell may well be a rino but one thing she isn't is a "him"

1,044 posted on 08/04/2004 11:12:53 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Truthsearcher
I keep being reminded of the line in Mr Smith Comes To Washington: "Lost causes are always worth fighting for." And this is one lost cause every conservative should enlist in.
1,045 posted on 08/04/2004 11:12:57 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Keyes2000mt
...Bush will struggle if Obama’s unopposed and the GOP has a candidate who lacks passion...

Right. So let's get this in order:

The GOP wants Keyes to run;
the President wants Keyes to run;
JR wants Keyes to run;
Howlin, Iwo, Nopardons, and Luis don't want Keyes to run.

Tell me who's being disloyal, again?

1,046 posted on 08/04/2004 11:13:40 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

I was being sarcastic.

The latest great black hope is same as the old boss.

All class envy and race victimization. 95% of blacks will love him.

I loathe what I have seen of him.

I hope Keyes at least makes him earn that seat and spend $$$$


1,047 posted on 08/04/2004 11:13:40 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Graybeard58
she isn't is a "him"

That depends on what your definition of "kaleidescope" is.

1,048 posted on 08/04/2004 11:13:53 PM PDT by outlawcam (No time to waste. Now get moving.)
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To: flaglady47

Don't tell me, you're what passes for "wit" around here, right?

I like Keyes fine; it's his supporters who are the big pains in the butt; most of them are very condescending; sort like you.


1,049 posted on 08/04/2004 11:13:58 PM PDT by Howlin (Saving Private Hamster)
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To: Truthsearcher
But you still haven't answered my question, who's YOUR candidate. It's easy to pick apart Keyes or anyone else, because we all have flaws. Suggest somebody that would be better than Keyes. Offer a solution. Otherwise it comes across as just plain childish whinning.

There are a lot of candidates I could have supported. The strongest homegrown candidate would probably have been Steve Rauchenberger, who would have stepped in if the national party would have committed some money. But again, if we're assuming a loss (and it's clear that the national and state party both are), why not look for fresh talent who may not even be on your or my radar? Why not bring someone along to be in strong position to beat Durbin or Blagojavich in 2006? I just don't see how bringing Keyes in is going to improve the sorry state of the Illinois party. Indeed, I can see this hurting their already shabby reputation considerably.

1,050 posted on 08/04/2004 11:14:26 PM PDT by LandOfLincolnGOP
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To: LandOfLincolnGOP

A decent showing in liberal Maryland. Its about fighting for our ideas and in the long run they matter more than if we keep a particular seat. I don't think we just want to hold power for its own sake as the Left does.


1,051 posted on 08/04/2004 11:15:02 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: LandOfLincolnGOP

I understand your anger and empathize. However, one has to make lemons out of lemonade. Keyes, if he does well in your state (even if he doesn't win) could revitalize the party. There's a large number of states that would give their right arm to get Alan Keyes there and active.


1,052 posted on 08/04/2004 11:15:25 PM PDT by Keyes2000mt (Conservative Values in Idaho: http://adamsweb/us/IdahoConservative)
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To: Keyes2000mt

Actually, I left Idaho after the primary. I've been working in WV since.

This state is on fire for Republicans.

The President, I believe, is going to win by ten points.

And for the first time since before the Depression, there are more R)s on the ticket than D)s. Every statewide and legislative race has a Republican candidate.

Huge improvement over even two years ago. We are working to make the precinct organizations for the GOP deeper and stronger than ever. The Bush campaign, the Warner gubernatorial campaign, the RNC and Victory are all putting more resources in here than ever before.

And the RAT votebuying has been exposed. Some inditements have already come down, and more will happen after November.

Many are going to be shocked at the change in the Mountain State after this election.


1,053 posted on 08/04/2004 11:15:35 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Salvation
We will all watch this debate!

I wouldn't miss it!

1,054 posted on 08/04/2004 11:15:35 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

Ping me when you talk about me.

I want him to run; I'm enjoying watching all of you all twist your principles trying to justify him going back on what he said about Hillary.


1,055 posted on 08/04/2004 11:15:35 PM PDT by Howlin (Saving Private Hamster)
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To: EternalVigilance
The quote was word for word,as far as I could tell.

It was made when Hillary ran for the Senate,NOT today.

Why don't YOU know what he said back then? Were you off his payroll?Aren't YOU THE Keyes "expert"?

1,056 posted on 08/04/2004 11:16:16 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: EternalVigilance
Pining over what someone may or may not have done in the past does no good.Everyone knows the Illinois GOP is in a deplorable condition

I'm not pining. I'm hoping that there's still a chance to undo this mistake before it damages the party and its future even more. This is about more than one race and one candidate.

1,057 posted on 08/04/2004 11:17:18 PM PDT by LandOfLincolnGOP
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To: Howlin; nopardons

LOL. You two are hardly victims.


1,058 posted on 08/04/2004 11:17:23 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: LandOfLincolnGOP

But this imaginary candidate is not on anyone's radar, how do you know he even exists?

Instead of pining for the perfect imaginary candidate, let's focus on suggesting a real alternative if you don't like the decision to go with Keyes. Come up with a guy and make the case that he would be better than Keyes.


1,059 posted on 08/04/2004 11:17:48 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: Byron_the_Aussie; EternalVigilance; Jim Robinson

My goodness, Obama might start recruiting volunteers from this thread, lol!


1,060 posted on 08/04/2004 11:17:48 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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