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2 posted on 08/03/2004 12:10:54 PM PDT by alisasny ("I will leave no hampster behind" John F'en Kerry : ))
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To: dead; Perlstein
Rick... Welcome...loved you in Hellboy .

Sorry, bad joke. Hadda get that outta the way. ;)

I have read through several of your articles, and would take issue with several things, but rather than take up too much of your time (because I'm sure there are others that would like to Q&A with you as well), I'd just like to get your thoughts on a few big items.

What in your opinion, are the differences between a liberal and a conservative? I mean, seriously. rather than name-call, what exactly is it that makes you call yourself a liberal? Give us some details...not just the old, "I care for the poor, I want to help people" crapola. If you're one of those who really, truly believes that conservatives are simply out to make as much money as possible for themselves on the backs of everyone else, then there's no sense in going any further, because the philosophies are simply too far apart.

Cheers,
BigB

28 posted on 08/03/2004 12:22:34 PM PDT by TheBigB (I'm more frustrated than a legless Ethiopian watching a doughnut roll down a hill.)
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To: alisasny
"Say, when you ask whether a nice guy would invade a country at the cost of untold innocent lives on the shakiest of pretenses?"

Supported by John Kerry, John Edwards, most of the Senate, and the intelligences estimates of which were agreed by every country on record.

Your argument is shakier than the evidence believed by your liberal betters at the time.

95 posted on 08/03/2004 12:36:06 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mullahs swinging from lamp posts.....)
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To: alisasny
"The governor ran for president on a platform of balanced budgets, then ran the federal budget straight into the red."

There was this little matter of 9/11, but I wouldn't expect a 9/10 liberal to understand.

102 posted on 08/03/2004 12:38:15 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mullahs swinging from lamp posts.....)
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To: alisasny
"And that is why conservatism is verging on becoming an un-American creed."

Not that a liberal would question a conservative's patriotism, mind you.

131 posted on 08/03/2004 12:45:19 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mullahs swinging from lamp posts.....)
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To: alisasny
I have not read any of your articles, but the Freeper name sounds familiar and I have responded to a few of those.
I hesitate to throw out contentious subjects as in "what does it matter if you feel errors have been made in Iraq" if you have not been elected to an office that can actually do something about those mistakes.

But even more fundamentally, I would love to get an explanation from any honest liberal or "prgressive" for the moral or ethical underpinnings for the assumed unspoken premise that, with the force of the State enforcing it, we are all obligated to "take care of the less fortunate", and the corollary that "they" have a right to that help. That one explanation should suffice.

169 posted on 08/03/2004 12:56:35 PM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either.)
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To: alisasny
Finally, in what I see as the errors of the Iraq campaign, I recognize the worst aspects of arrogant left-wing utopianism: the idea that you can remake a whole society and region through sheer force of will. I think Iraq is a tragic disaster (though for the time being the country is probably better off than it was when Saddam was around--but only, I fear, for the time being).

SOMETHING had to change in the Middle East. Many would say the only thing that is going to save us from them as they become more technically advanced is total annihilation. And to tell you the truth, I think it might come to that.

I'm not one of these muslim bashers around here. I refuse to believe that "Islam is a Death Cult" and "All Muslims are evil". That is assanine. If it was true, we wouldn't be here today because there are 1.6 billion of them. Or, maybe they're the most undermotivated blood thirsty animals imaginable??

Anyway...Back to the point...SOMETHING had to change. Someone had to introduce Democracy into the Middle East. And while doing so, it didn't hurt that we took-out someone who would have LOVED to have helped get nukes to terrorists. Plus, Iraq is one of the less fanatical countries in the Middle East. So...It was an easy choice, especially when you consider the intell we had going in.

My problem with liberals concerning this issue is this...

They don't stand behind America...They stand behind their own thurst for power! Instead of siding with us in our stance against allowing terrorists access to armageddon type weapons, they stand with the "Poor oppressed Middle Easterners who just need to be understood". And God forbid that we actually admit that we need to change the course of radical muslims in the Middle East...If we had done that, the liberals would have been screeching "HOLY WAR!!!"

The way I see it is...

We either do this or nuke the place. Or, we eventually get nuked ourselves. And you damned liberals see that as well...But for some reason you won't side with us???

May God Bless President George W Bush for taking this stance!!!

175 posted on 08/03/2004 12:56:59 PM PDT by Mister Blond
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To: Perlstein
Conservatives see something angelic in George Bush. That's why they excuse, repress, and rationalize away so much.

And that is why conservatism is verging on becoming an un-American creed.

You are a clever writer, and the interview of conservatives in your column twisted them to appear as mind-numbed religious robots.

The cult of personality is strong. I have never met Bill Clinton, but I am sure that I could speak to him while standing on a white carpet and he could convince me that it was black, or at least make me look down several times. Conservatives are not hypnotized similarly by Bush's persona. Instead, most of them feel straight, logical respect and admiration for him. Why?

In my case, I admire him for standing by his principles even at cost to himself and his career. I am relieved that he does not have needs and insecurities so great that they show to the American public and affect his duties.

I admire him for wanting to keep America safe and good more than wanting America to be liked.

I respect that he has a core, and I respect that his core is from what I believe to be the only core: The Torah or Bible.

I believe what his best friend has said publicly, that Bush arises and goes to work each day trying to do the best he possibly can in service to the American people, including yourself. It takes strength of spirit to put one's self aside and become a humble servant to us. Yet the point is that he does not awake and think to himself, "How can I and mine most profit from the world today?"

Plenty of us disagree with Bush on some issues. I know I do, on several. Who can agree on everything? And the few that seem to be worshiping him like an angel are completely misguided or being silly.

When I was very young, I believed what you believe. But you liberal journalists (almost an oxymoron) fooled me back then, telling me Reagan was stupid and bad, when in actuality he was divinely bright and very good indeed.

President George W. Bush's presidency is most likely also one that will be a beacon to future generations all over this earth. His actions have already improved and saved so many lives. The ripple of positive force is nowhere near over.

I know you liberals ascribe evil, selfish intentions to all Bush has done, but logically there is a great chance you are wrong. Can you face that?

I have read your essays and books and tried hard to find the evil you see, but it is not there. Your torrid hatred, if not pure projection, might be nothing more than burning the witch to save her.

554 posted on 08/03/2004 3:14:38 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: alisasny

Sir:
If you had truly watched the discussions here, you would have seen a big rift between those who call themselves Bushbots and those displeased with the president. Perhaps it looks like a greater number now strongly support the president. You have your own side to blame for that.

Knowing that the other presidential candidate is John Kerry makes some of us shudder. Today, he promised free health care for everyone. He is a blatant socialist and that makes conservatives like me grateful to have a better choice.

I have criticized the president at times on education policies and health care plans that are too vague - but those things seem petty when I look at Kerry - a man who seems to be running in a high school popularity contest rather than a presidential election.

He wants America to think he's a good guy. "I don't think abortion is right, guys! I'm normal like you!" But he won't vote for what he values. "Well, politically I won't legislate against it. It's just that I don't like it personally."

Well, fine, Mr. Kerry. But we aren't involved with your personal life and we don't really need to know what you personally believe if you're not going to vote for it.
Why would you even tell us about it? We aren't trying to elect a best friend. We're trying to elect a decent president.

No. I'll pick the serious candidate and support him with all I have. Because there's no way in the world I'm letting my country get stuck with Kerry.


745 posted on 08/03/2004 4:33:35 PM PDT by Sockdologer
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To: alisasny
It began with the ascension of George Bush, when I detected many conservatives beginning to care more about power than principles...what's more, in what I saw as an uncritical devotion to President Bush, often in retreat from its best insights about human nature.

We have a Bingo!!

784 posted on 08/03/2004 4:52:29 PM PDT by nonliberal (With Specter as Judiciary Chair, how do the Bushbots propose we get a conservative onto the Court?)
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To: alisasny
Mr Perlstein...since I've no idea who you are, and have never read anything that you've written..I will sit the pine on this one.
898 posted on 08/03/2004 6:53:40 PM PDT by Osage Orange (They call her "Radio Station" because anyone can pick her up, especially at night.)
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To: dead

Nine hours later: I'm still waiting for one intelligent answer. When do you think he will respond?


1,035 posted on 08/04/2004 10:01:14 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of americans)
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