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1 posted on 07/30/2004 7:31:40 PM PDT by neverdem
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"A senior leader of Al Qaeda who was captured in Pakistan several months after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks was the main source for intelligence, since discredited, that Iraq had provided training in chemical and biological weapons to members of the organization, according to American intelligence officials."

Richard Clarke was captured in Pakistan? I suspected the Al Queda link, but I thought he was in a U.S. not so asleeper cell.

2 posted on 07/30/2004 7:36:45 PM PDT by USNBandit (Florida military absentee voter number 537.)
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3 posted on 07/30/2004 7:36:52 PM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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The Reinvention Convention isn't over I guess.

That doesn't change the fact that Al-Zarqawi, Abu Nidal, and Abu Abbas all lived in Baghdad for years.


4 posted on 07/30/2004 7:39:02 PM PDT by nuffsenuff
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It is obvious that when Al Qaeda terroists agree with the New York Times they are telling the truth when they disagree they are lying.


5 posted on 07/30/2004 7:39:10 PM PDT by woofie ( I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize.)
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"...American officials say his now-recanted claims raise new questions about the value of the information obtained from such detainees."

No kidding.....either way, the Administration is WRONG and Bush lied.....doesn't matter to the LIBS.

6 posted on 07/30/2004 7:39:13 PM PDT by goodnesswins (I think I convinced a 19 year old woman to vote REPUBLICAN...YIPPEE.)
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Yeah? So what if he recanted? He let it slip before he had a chance to talk to the NYT lawyers.


8 posted on 07/30/2004 7:45:18 PM PDT by Brilliant
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It doesn't matter. Resolution 1441 was clear. A mass murderer will someday hang. That is good for the world.


10 posted on 07/30/2004 7:54:28 PM PDT by doug from upland
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New York Times...

garbage out... garbage out.


12 posted on 07/30/2004 8:01:33 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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Just who are these "intelligence officials", I wonder.

And why are they talking so freely to the New York Times about "highly classified" reports from the CIA? And "still-secret parts" of the Senate Intelligence Committee report?

Would these "intelligence officials" be the same as those who have shared "secrets" with the likes of the Times, Post and Newsday in the past? Would they happen to be associates of Mr. Ambassador and Ms. Secret Agent?

I smell rodents (and that would be with an apostrophe and a capital R).

13 posted on 07/30/2004 8:06:14 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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wrong again. read what the 9/11 has to say in the report

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1182042/posts


14 posted on 07/30/2004 8:07:10 PM PDT by beebuster2000 (the only thing quagmired is the lib mind)
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High Qaeda Aide Retracted Claim of Link With Iraq

"What did John promise him (from Terezzaaah's Billion Dollars) to retract.
And when did he promise it?"
15 posted on 07/30/2004 8:08:12 PM PDT by VOA
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Oh, okay. So now the Iraq war was a big ol' mistake and Tenet and the CIA were deceived by the wily Libi? And Bush/NSC/Powell are all off the hook, having been the victim of this lone prisoner/informant?

If that's true, maybe we should have just bombed an aspirin factory like usual and called it a day.
16 posted on 07/30/2004 8:08:52 PM PDT by George W. Bush (It's the Congress, stupid.)
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High Qaeda Aide Retracted Claim of Link With Iraq

Golly. When did the NYT report the claim that had to be retracted? There are multiple sources, btw, of a link betwee AQ & Iraq.

18 posted on 07/30/2004 8:12:40 PM PDT by Tribune7
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NY Times -- unnamed sources -- trash.


20 posted on 07/30/2004 8:20:51 PM PDT by FreeReign
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A senior leader of Al Qaeda who was captured in Pakistan several months after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks was the main source for intelligence, since discredited, that Iraq had provided training in chemical and biological weapons to members of the organization, according to American intelligence officials.

I believe lawyers call this "assuming facts not in evidence."

21 posted on 07/30/2004 8:26:58 PM PDT by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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What is Zarqawi? Al-Qaeda trained, living in Iraq, trained in the use of chemical weapons.


23 posted on 07/30/2004 8:45:18 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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There would have been no reason this Al-Qaeda operative would have implicated Iraq in the first place unless there was some truth to it. Some evidence would not be substantiated but in a case like this the premise would be the more important issue considering this individual was not in Iraq himself. This could be disinformation purposely put out there by the CIA to the NY Times for the way the treated Tenet then exposing the NY Times as the liars they are.


25 posted on 07/30/2004 9:15:04 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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Could it possibly be this guy is lying to take away legitimacy from a claim that would support the effort in Iraq? Why should would he lie then? He had no motive. He has all the motive in the world now to discredit the liberation of Iraq to help his fellow Al qaeda brothers fighting there now. But the media who didn't find this guy's claims credible enough to report when he was making charges of Iraq's collaboration with Al Qaeda will suddenly find this guy a fountain of truth now that he supports their anti-liberation of Iraq biases.


27 posted on 07/30/2004 9:34:43 PM PDT by MikeA
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From the Wall Street Journal's Review and Outlook, July 27, on what Berger was doing with the docs in socks:

The Bush Administration has been taking knocks for not having made al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden the priority Mr. Berger said it was during the Clinton years.

Yet neither Attorney General Ashcroft nor National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice even saw this Clarke report until after the 9/11 terrorists had struck.

Perhaps if they had, America would have been on a more aggressive footing earlier on. At the least, releasing the Clarke after-action report now would provide better context for weighing such ongoing political accusations as the charge that the Bush Administration's concern about Iraq was simply a fantasy of a "neoconservative" cabal.

Toward that end we can't help but note page 134 of the Commission report, which documents a proposal early in 1999 to send a U-2 mission over Afghanistan to gather intelligence on where bin Laden was hiding out.

Clarke objected on the grounds that Pakistani intelligence would tip bin Laden off that the U.S. was planning a bombing mission.

Armed with this knowledge," the Commission quotes Mr. Clarke as saying, "old wily Usama will likely boogie to Baghdad."

Is that the same secular Baghdad that we are told would never cooperate with Islamist al Qaeda?

28 posted on 07/30/2004 10:20:32 PM PDT by jwalburg (Hatriots for Kerry)
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Intelligence officials say the detainee, Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, a member of Osama bin Laden's inner circle, recanted the claims sometime last year

Right around the time he became one of the first "foreign leaders" to endorse John Kerry?

29 posted on 07/30/2004 10:27:14 PM PDT by montag813 ("A nation can survive fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.")
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