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Would you prefer to have this talent making Canada or Australia strong or making the US strong?
1 posted on 07/29/2004 1:12:57 PM PDT by ScarTissue
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To: ScarTissue

Perhaps this highlight how abysmal the K-12 educational system has gotten in the US.


2 posted on 07/29/2004 1:21:26 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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"If opponents of immigration had succeeded over the past 20 years,...."

Which opponents might that be?


3 posted on 07/29/2004 1:21:59 PM PDT by Bigh4u2
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All we need is a flood of doomers on this thread that claim "I will never send my son/daughter" to the school of their choice, because there is no "future" in the degree he/she seeks to pursue.


10 posted on 07/29/2004 1:31:55 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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If opponents of immigration had succeeded over the past 20 years, two-thirds of the most outstanding future American scientists and mathematicians would not be here today because US policy would have barred their parents from entering the United States,

Putting aside the fuzzy math assumptions, who are these "opponents" of "immigration?"

12 posted on 07/29/2004 1:33:12 PM PDT by Shermy
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This just shows why we gotta keep immigrants coming. As long as the brain drain comes to the US we are in good hands! It means we have the best oppourtunities here.


13 posted on 07/29/2004 1:35:05 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/farenheight_911.htm)
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"If opponents of immigration had succeeded over the past 20 years, two-thirds of the most outstanding future American scientists and mathematicians would not be here today because US policy would have barred their parents from entering the United States," said Anderson.

There is all the difference in the world between legal and illegal immigration. It sure as heck ain't the 15M+ illegal Mexicans dominating math scores.

I'm all for very liberal legal immigration policies: If you have a college degree, or the money to start your own business, or buy property here, by all means come on in!

If you are here to squeeze out a baby and get on the welfare gravy train... that's something completely different.

17 posted on 07/29/2004 1:46:17 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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The writer of this article draws conclusions that prove that we Americans must be stupid at math, as math and logic are often intertwined.

First of all, I would like to know if these students had a different primary educational background in science and math than U.S. students. Is there a key ingredient missing that causes natural-born Americans to be woefully deficient in these subjects?

It would also be interesting to find out the educational background of the 40% of American students who also scored high in math and science.

The article doesn't mention which percentage of these high-scorers who are schooled in private or public settings. Perhaps there is a specific region of the U.S. that these students emigrated to which generally has higher scores in math and science than others.

There is just so much left out.


32 posted on 07/29/2004 2:08:37 PM PDT by agrarianlady
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The writer of this article draws conclusions that prove that we Americans must be stupid at math, as math and logic are often intertwined.

First of all, I would like to know if these students had a different primary educational background in science and math than U.S. students. Is there a key ingredient missing that causes natural-born Americans to be woefully deficient in these subjects?

It would also be interesting to find out the educational background of the 40% of American students who also scored high in math and science.

The article doesn't mention which percentage of these high-scorers who are schooled in private or public settings. Perhaps there is a specific region of the U.S. that these students emigrated to which generally has higher scores in math and science than others.

There is just so much left out.


33 posted on 07/29/2004 2:09:06 PM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: ScarTissue

Please include original titles when posting.
Thanks.


38 posted on 07/29/2004 2:29:37 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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Maybe the reason is that the parents of the Indian students place their emphasis on school work and not on soccer games and dance class and gymnastics class. My 13 year old daughter has friends who are on the go from one extra-curricular activity to another, from the time school ends until 8 or 9 at night. When they do homework I'll never know.


39 posted on 07/29/2004 2:30:46 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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where is their loyalty ?


40 posted on 07/29/2004 2:31:46 PM PDT by y2k_free_radical (ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
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