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Indian-American students among the brightest in the US
Rediff.com ^ | 7/20/04 | Unknown

Posted on 07/29/2004 1:12:56 PM PDT by ScarTissue

As many as 60 per cent of the United States' top science students and 65 per cent of those who excelled in mathematics are children of immigrants, a new study has found.

Foreign-born high school students make up 50 per cent of the 2004 US Math Olympiad top scorers, 38 per cent of the US Physics Team and 25 per cent of Intel Science Talent Search finalists, America's most prestigious awards for young scientists and mathematicians, the study said.

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"These findings provide evidence that maintaining an open policy toward skilled professionals, international students, and legal immigration is vital to America's technological and scientific standing in the world," Stuart Anderson, Executive Director of NFAP and author of the report, said.

"If opponents of immigration had succeeded over the past 20 years, two-thirds of the most outstanding future American scientists and mathematicians would not be here today because US policy would have barred their parents from entering the United States," said Anderson. --------------------------------------------------------

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: academia; aliens; immigration
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Would you prefer to have this talent making Canada or Australia strong or making the US strong?
1 posted on 07/29/2004 1:12:57 PM PDT by ScarTissue
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Perhaps this highlight how abysmal the K-12 educational system has gotten in the US.


2 posted on 07/29/2004 1:21:26 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: ScarTissue

"If opponents of immigration had succeeded over the past 20 years,...."

Which opponents might that be?


3 posted on 07/29/2004 1:21:59 PM PDT by Bigh4u2
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""If opponents of immigration had succeeded over the past 20 years,...."

'Which opponents might that be? '

I guess I'll have to answer my own question..

The only 'opponents' of immigration that I am aware of are opponents of 'ILLEGAL' immigration.

I am not aware of a group or peoples that are have a blanket agenda against ANY immigration.

Just the 'illegal' kind.




4 posted on 07/29/2004 1:25:52 PM PDT by Bigh4u2
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To: Bigh4u2

And BTW!

We are ALL 'children of immigrants'.

Unless, of course, you are an America Indian!


5 posted on 07/29/2004 1:27:36 PM PDT by Bigh4u2
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To: Bigh4u2

now we need an affirmative action program for us anglo-saxon
types with no math skills.


6 posted on 07/29/2004 1:29:30 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the Piece- "HOPE" : Hand Over Paycheck Entirely)
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To: Paleo Conservative

How so? These kids are suceeding in American schools.

There are many opponents of legal immigration. The vast majority of Americans want to see legal immigration reduced to a trickle.

I'll name one prominent opponent of legal immigration, Pat Buchanan, hero of the anti-war crowd.


7 posted on 07/29/2004 1:30:01 PM PDT by ScarTissue
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The only 'opponents' of immigration that I am aware of are opponents of 'ILLEGAL' immigration.

Well there are people who are allowed to immigrate to the US who never should have been allowed in the US under any circumstances. As far as I'm concerned Wahabbi Muslims need not apply for immigrant visas.

8 posted on 07/29/2004 1:30:10 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Rakkasan1

Why? Anglo-Saxons are given the same, if not more opportunity than these kids. Perhaps there is a need for an Anglo-Saxon Bill Cosby...


9 posted on 07/29/2004 1:31:34 PM PDT by ScarTissue
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To: ScarTissue

All we need is a flood of doomers on this thread that claim "I will never send my son/daughter" to the school of their choice, because there is no "future" in the degree he/she seeks to pursue.


10 posted on 07/29/2004 1:31:55 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Paleo Conservative

Aside from Wahabbis, who else need not apply to the US?


11 posted on 07/29/2004 1:32:34 PM PDT by ScarTissue
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If opponents of immigration had succeeded over the past 20 years, two-thirds of the most outstanding future American scientists and mathematicians would not be here today because US policy would have barred their parents from entering the United States,

Putting aside the fuzzy math assumptions, who are these "opponents" of "immigration?"

12 posted on 07/29/2004 1:33:12 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: ScarTissue

This just shows why we gotta keep immigrants coming. As long as the brain drain comes to the US we are in good hands! It means we have the best oppourtunities here.


13 posted on 07/29/2004 1:35:05 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/farenheight_911.htm)
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To: Paleo Conservative

We don't need no education
We don’t need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!


14 posted on 07/29/2004 1:39:24 PM PDT by traumer
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To: Shermy

Pat Buchanan and Michael Savage are two prime examples. Surely you do not deny that there is anti-immigrant sentiment among some in the US.

Fuzzy math? Poll after poll finds that over 60% of Americans want to see immigration reduced. When asked what level they would prefer, most want a trickle of under 100,000.


15 posted on 07/29/2004 1:39:51 PM PDT by ScarTissue
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I'll name one prominent opponent of legal immigration, Pat Buchanan, hero of the anti-war crowd.

I'm not opposed to immigration, but the US should pick and choose. I can't think of any good reason why Arab Muslims should be allowed to immigrate to the US. I don't see why we need large numbers of unskilled immigrants from any country.

16 posted on 07/29/2004 1:42:12 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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"If opponents of immigration had succeeded over the past 20 years, two-thirds of the most outstanding future American scientists and mathematicians would not be here today because US policy would have barred their parents from entering the United States," said Anderson.

There is all the difference in the world between legal and illegal immigration. It sure as heck ain't the 15M+ illegal Mexicans dominating math scores.

I'm all for very liberal legal immigration policies: If you have a college degree, or the money to start your own business, or buy property here, by all means come on in!

If you are here to squeeze out a baby and get on the welfare gravy train... that's something completely different.

17 posted on 07/29/2004 1:46:17 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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Pat Buchanan and Michael Savage are two prime examples.

I don't listen to Savage very much, but I have never ever heard him even hint that legal immigration was a bad thing. Pat is surely a nativist, but I have never heard him suggest that legal immigration is the problem.

18 posted on 07/29/2004 1:48:24 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: Bigh4u2
Unless, of course, you are an America Indian!

Whenever some twit uses that line on me I remind them of the Bering crossing. But then again, I'm evil.

19 posted on 07/29/2004 1:48:45 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Earth first! We can mine the other planets later.)
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but the US should pick and choose

THAT is the key.

Even a little bit of selectivity makes immigration - LEGAL immigration - a huge win for the U.S.

20 posted on 07/29/2004 1:49:31 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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