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Temple Mount to be Open to Jews on Tisha B'Av
The Jerusalem Post ^ | Av 8, 5764 / July 26, 2004 | ETGAR LEFKOVITS

Posted on 07/26/2004 5:06:59 PM PDT by ChicagoHebrew

Barring any last minute security threats, Jerusalem's Temple Mount will remain open to Jewish visitors on Tuesday, as the nation marks Tisha Be'av and the destruction of the ancient Jewish temples that stood at the site, police said Monday.

The decision to keep the holy site open to non-Muslim visitors is, however, subject to change in the event of last minute warnings of possible Palestinian violence at the site.

Jerusalem police said Monday that the leader of the fringe 'Temple Mount Faithful' group, Gershon Solomon, will not be allowed to enter the compound, although members of his ultra-nationalist group will be allowed in on an individual basis.

More than 50,000 Jewish and Christian visitors have peacefully toured the ancient compound, which is Judaism's holiest site, since its reopening to non-Muslim visitors nearly a year ago. The site had been closed off to non-Muslims due to concern over renewed Palestinian violence at the site.

In years past when the mount was closed to visitors, the commemoration of Tisha Be'Av has served as a rallying cry for those seeking to reopen the site to Jews.

The issue of Jewish visits to the Temple Mount was recently back in the spot-light after Internal Security Minister Tzahi Hanegbi warned this weekend that Jewish extremists could carry out an attack against Arabs at the site in order to torpedo Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's planned unilateral withdrawal from the Gaza Strip.

In light of the warnings, security officials are considering banning certain extremist Jews from entering the Temple Mount, something which they have done periodically in the past, or placing certain individuals under 'administrative detention,' a draconian move usually reserved for suspected Palestinian terrorists.

On Thursday, a special meeting is expected to take place at the Justice Ministry with the participation of Shin Bet officials, police, and the Attorney General to consider barring a group of five to 10 known Jewish extremists from entering the Jewish holy site due to concern that their visit could spur violence.

In a separate development, the Jerusalem Magistrate's court on Monday convicted two far-right activists, Itamar Ben-Gvir and Yehuda Etzion, for disturbing the peace for reading the Book of Lamentations next to a security checkpoint at the entrance to Temple Mount on Tisha Be'Av seven years ago.

Ben-Gvir vowed to appeal the ruling.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: israel; templemount; tishabav
For those who don't know, tonight at sundown marks Tisha B'Av, the saddest day in the Jewish calender. On this day, among other things, both Holy Temples were destroyed, the Bar Kochba Rebellion was crushed, the Jews were expelled from England in 1290, the Jews were expelled from Spain in 1492 (marking the start of the Spanish Inquisition), and World War I began -- leading to the events of the Holocaust.

Even today, Jews will be allowed to visit the Temple Mount -- but not to pray. Police will search all Jews ascending the Mount for prayer books, and arrest anyone who prays -- to prevent a "hostile" Muslim "reaction" to the very idea of Jews praying on their holiest site.

Even in Israel, political correctness often takes priority over Jewish rights.

1 posted on 07/26/2004 5:07:00 PM PDT by ChicagoHebrew
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To: ChicagoHebrew

Dear G-d, not allowed to pray?


2 posted on 07/26/2004 5:09:31 PM PDT by OldFriend (IF YOU CAN READ THIS, THANK A TEACHER.......AND SINCE IT'S IN ENGLISH, THANK A SOLDIER)
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To: ChicagoHebrew; Alouette; Salem; SJackson
More than 50,000 Jewish and Christian visitors have peacefully toured the ancient compound, which is Judaism's holiest site, since its reopening to non-Muslim visitors nearly a year ago. The site had been closed off to non-Muslims due to concern over renewed Palestinian violence at the site.

Good G-d, am I the only one who sees the extreme irony in that sentence?

3 posted on 07/26/2004 5:14:51 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: 1bigdictator; 1st-P-In-The-Pod; 2sheep; 7.62 x 51mm; A Jovial Cad; a_witness; adam_az; af_vet_rr; ..
More Jews visiting Temple Mount

"If you don't use it, you lose it," explained Nachman Kupietzky when asked why he brings Jews to the Temple Mount.

The Chief Rabbinate is on record as banning Jews from treading on the mount due to its sacredness, but Kupietzky, like other observant Jews who habitually visit there, says he is careful to avoid that part of the mount which includes the Dome of the Rock, traditionally delineated as the area that contained the ancient Temple.

Channel 2 reported Monday that the present and past chief rabbis had reiterated the standing Chief Rabbinate ban on Jews ascending the mount, though spokesmen said they were not aware of any such declaration.

The Temple Mount was closed to non-Muslim visitors last August at the onset of the Aksa Intifada. Since the Temple Mount was reopened to non-Muslims, tourists and Jews have made 65,000 visits, according to police.

The Muslim Wakf does not permit Jews to pray on the Temple Mount. Rabbi David Elboim, head of Yeshivat Torat Habayit in Geula and a Israeli police humiliate Jews as they check them for contraband prayer books, pulling out papers and asking if they are not prayer sheets.

He said that Internal Security Minister Tzahi Hanegbi's warnings that unspecified Jewish extremists might attack the site to upset the political process were driven by the desire for more funds and personnel.

"In the year since the Temple Mount reopened, there hasn't been as much as the sound of a flea. Instead of giving us a medal for good behavior, Hanegbi besmirches our good name. Jews around the world face the direction of the Temple Mount when they pray, yet on the site itself we are not allowed to pray."

Kupietzky says that he asks the groups he leads to wear caps and to look as much like tourists as possible. "Once my son joined one of my groups, and his kippa wasn't covered. We were delayed 20 minutes until a special police escort was found."

The years in which Jews were banned from visiting the Mount were the same ones in which Wakf construction wreaked havoc on the ancient site, said Elboim, pointing out that piles of destroyed antiquities could still be seen.

Elboim is one of the few haredim who ascend the Temple Mount, but he insisted that many rabbis do permit Jews to go up, so long as they immerse first in a mikva (ritual bath) and wear non-leather shoes.

He noted that even as mainstream a figure as Rabbi Moshe Tendler, son-in-law of the late leader of American Orthodoxy Rabbi Moshe Feinstein, planned to visit the Temple Mount next week.

From the kitchen in her Mount of Olives home, where she can see the Temple Mount as she cooks, Zipporah Piltz agrees with Elboim that there has been a discernible rise in the number of observant visitors to the mount. But she would like to see a greater representation of women.

Among those rabbis that do allow their congregants to ascend the mount, a majority do not allow women to do so, notes Piltz, because the rules of purity regarding their ascent are more complex.

4 posted on 07/26/2004 5:21:29 PM PDT by Alouette ("Your children like olive trees seated round your table." -- Psalm 128:3)
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To: Alouette

I am really starting to wonder if some civil disobedience is called for here - thousand of Jews, simply climbing the Temple Mount and praying until they are removed. No violence (at least on the Jews' part) - just disobedience to unjust laws.


5 posted on 07/26/2004 5:31:16 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: Alouette
Yehi ratzon millifnei HaShem shebe`od shanah hayom hazeh lo `od yihyeh yom tzom veta`anit, 'aval yihyeh chag gadol sheKol Beit Yisra'el yachog 'oto beVeit HaMiqdash HaShelishi veHa`Olami, biYrushalayim HaBenuyah! 'Amein, ken yehi ratzon!!!

May it be HaShem's Will that in a year's time this day will no longer be a day of fasting and affliction, but a great feast day which all the House of Israel will observe in the Third and Eternal Temple, in the Rebuilt Jerusalem! Amen! So may it be!!!

6 posted on 07/26/2004 5:41:47 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ('Ani hagever ra'ah `oni besheivet `evrato!)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...

If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.


7 posted on 07/26/2004 5:48:58 PM PDT by SJackson (He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has 10 times since 1983, Sandy Berger)
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To: ChicagoHebrew
warnings of possible warnings of possible Palestinian violence

I have an idea.

How 'bout, if there's "Palestinian violence," the Israelis take out the Al-Aqsa Mosque?

ML/NJ

8 posted on 07/26/2004 6:03:16 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Zionist Conspirator
May it be HaShem's Will that in a year's time this day will no longer be a day of fasting and affliction, but a great feast day which all the House of Israel will observe in the Third and Eternal Temple, in the Rebuilt Jerusalem! Amen! So may it be!!!

Amen!

9 posted on 07/26/2004 6:03:24 PM PDT by Alouette ("Your children like olive trees seated round your table." -- Psalm 128:3)
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To: OldFriend
You read the end of the article? Israel just "convicted" a man for reciting the Book of Lamentations at the ENTRANCE to the Temple Mount -- not EVEN on the Mount itself.

The refusal to allow Jews to pray on the Temple Mount is Israel's greatest sin.

10 posted on 07/26/2004 6:04:05 PM PDT by ChicagoHebrew
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To: ChicagoHebrew

Pretty weird. Disgusting, an abomination, frankly. No free speech, no reading from the Book of Lamentations...PC nonsense. God forbid that you practice your religion in the face of homicidal crackpots for fear of 'offending them'. You have no rights. They have theirs, plus yours. Sort of like illegal aliens in the US. Same bankrupt PC mindset.


11 posted on 07/26/2004 6:29:42 PM PDT by hershey
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To: ChicagoHebrew
The refusal to allow Jews to pray on the Temple Mount is Israel's greatest sin.

Just remember these are the same folks who abandoned the Tomb of Joseph -- only to have the Islamonazis trash it and then dedicate it as a "mosque." Who also gave away the ancient "Shalom-al-Yisrael" synagogue in Jericho which had been there since ancient times. Who also plan to give away the Western Wall and the Tomb of Rachel and about a dozen ancient synagogues in the Old City.

All for "peace" you understand.

The Israeli politicians hate the religious Jews even more than the Arabs.

12 posted on 07/26/2004 6:53:28 PM PDT by Alouette ("Your children like olive trees seated round your table." -- Psalm 128:3)
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To: ChicagoHebrew
a "hostile" Muslim "reaction"

but I thought Islam was a Religion of PeaceTM?

Did Sharon pray in 2000? ... I know that got their panties in a wad ... nonetheless, that Third Temple will stand ... I have no doubt of that ...
13 posted on 07/26/2004 7:09:06 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: ChicagoHebrew

http://israelnn.com/news.php3?id=66351

Police Chief to Render Decision on Temple Mount Visit
07:40 Jul 27, '04 / 9 Av 5764

(IsraelNN.com) Jerusalem Police Chief Ilan Franco will render his decision today regarding a request from the Temple Mount Faithful organization seeking to permit activists to visit the Temple Mount on the day we commemorate the destruction of the First and Second Temples.

The organization petitioned the Supreme Court. The High Court placed the decision in the hands of the police.

http://israelnn.com/news.php3?id=66356

Jerusalem Police Chief Prohibits Jews on the Mount Today
10:09 Jul 27, '04 / 9 Av 5764

(IsraelNN.com) Jerusalem Police Chief Ilan Franco has decided not to permit Jews to visit the Temple Mount today, Tisha B’Av, stating he fears such a move would spark Islamic violence including rock attacks against Jews praying at the Western Wall.

http://israelnn.com/news.php3?id=66358

Reaction to Police Temple Mount Decision
13:22 Jul 27, '04 / 9 Av 5764

(IsraelNN.com) Gershon Solomon, who heads the Temple Mount Faithful organization, decried Jerusalem Police Chief Ilan Franco’s decision not to permit Jews on the Temple Mount today. Solomon added the decision would undoubtedly carry political and security ramifications, including increased Islamic violence and destruction surrounding Temple Mount issues, since once again, the Islamic violence or threats have achieved the desired result.


14 posted on 07/27/2004 4:58:08 AM PDT by Mr170IQ
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To: Alouette
The Muslim Wakf does not permit Jews to pray on the Temple Mount. Rabbi David Elboim, head of Yeshivat Torat Habayit in Geula and a Israeli police humiliate Jews as they check them for contraband prayer books, pulling out papers and asking if they are not prayer sheets.

I do not intend this to be disrespectful but does Judaism believe that God requires such aids (prayer books and prayer sheets) for the prayer to be efficacious? In my culture (Mormon) a prayer (of the mind) may be sent heavenward with no outer evidence of the prayer. It is utterly impossible to prevent the faithful from praying at any time, in any place, under any condition.

15 posted on 07/27/2004 9:09:25 AM PDT by night reader
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To: night reader
Very few people know the entire Book of Psalms by heart, though some may memorize individual chapters.

I suppose there are some people who could pray the entire service by heart, but most prefer to use a siddur (prayer book).

Judaism does not encourage either rote memorization or making up prayers spontaneously. The prayer book is preferred as a focus of concentration.

16 posted on 07/27/2004 11:07:48 AM PDT by Alouette ("Your children like olive trees seated round your table." -- Psalm 128:3)
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