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Posted on 07/18/2004 6:57:48 PM PDT by JustPiper
Picture credit: TheCabal
"I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat"
CIA: 9/11 Plotters Transited Iran, Govt Tie Unseen
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - About eight of the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers passed through Iran before attacking the United States, but there is no sign of official Iranian complicity, the CIA (news - web sites)'s acting director said on Sunday.
We are the "Stotters" who make ourselves aware of the enemy who wishes to do us harm
Meet It!
Greet It!
Defeat It!
thecabal, I have not been able to log on the alternate site because my password is not working, or at least the password I thought I chose! Anyway, I do need to change my e-mail address.
Once I get that straight, I will be happy to upload any crucial docs there, CoCo. I actually have been too embarrassed to admit I -- evidently -- cannot recall my initial password! I have a manilla folder full of various and sundry website accouts and passwords, and there must be 100 or so pieces of paper in there. It is hard to recall them all without writing them down, but I did foget to write thecabal's site info down it seems.
No. I don't.
The Lincoln Centre is on the upper west side, I think on Columbus Avenue but I may be wrong about that. It could be Broadway. At a guess I would say it's 2-3 miles from The Empire State building. (Sorry, I don't know how to convert into kilometers).
Dont forget, they read from right to left in arabic. Try both ways.
On post 953 from Jill St. Claire's site they are calling Osama the Islamic lion & I've seen it elsewhere where they refer to him as the Lion of Islam or Sher-e-Islam.
Thanks dryman's wife for posting it.
"Hot" is a bad word to use! Look at the fire all over the map and in usama's hand.
I am thinking just the tip of lower Manhattan, so the width is okay, not the entire lower Manhattan where it is wide than becomes narrow. Also, the way the streets or land parcels on the lower right go off in another direction more closely matches lower Manhattan.
I remember where I saw references to OBL being the "Lion of Islam" before. Remember earlier this year when there were rumors flying around that OBL was dead? On Steve Quayle's site he claimed that Osama was almost certainly dead because the jihadis were referring to him as the lion of Islam in the forums then. He said it is a term only reserved for those who have martyred themselves for Islam, i.e:- already dead.
I know this is coming from Steve Quayle and not everyone agrees on his reliability but I seem to recall reading this on other sites as well, just can't remember which ones.
The statement also said police found rocket-propelled grenades, SAM-7 surface-to-air missiles, vast quantities of ammunition and 360,000 riyals (96,000 dollars) in the same house.
PLURAL on SAM-7 missiles.
Thank you.
You could be right. Maybe I'm just seeing it that way because I work up here. Midtown seems much more target rich. I'm going to enlarge it and try to compare it to a real map when I get home. Did you see Labyrinthos' take at 1422?
I think that is an excellent idea for us to do. How best to work it all out? Doing that would make it easier for us to track things as patterns emerge.
And we can refer pertinent stories, articles, posts, etc., to the appropriate person depending on the topic. This way the burden of finding all pertinent info on a topic will be shared, but perhaps only one or two persons per topic will actually do the physical tracking/collation of the information.
If each person(s) doing the tracking for a topic would also maintain a subject folder over at thecabal's alternate site, this would enhance TM's organization and research capabilities.
Thank you Bag Cam Addict.
It could be another city in the U.S. entirely, who knows.
I took Laby's post as a joke. Am I wrong? Laby, you were serious? Partly serious?
freeperfromnj, do you work in lower or midtown NYC?
I work in midtown - right near the Fox News Building on Sixth Avenue.
you are a dear.
I think he was only joking about Rosie, Martha and Monica.
I am disturbed that all this comes amidst all the increased background chatter that has been escalating in recent weeks. It may be the "go" signal as many of the images posted on the Islamist websites since late last year depict violent scenes with UBL looking on from the clouds or the background as if he is already in the afterlife. The most recent images follow this pattern. Take every image of Bin Laden and a fantasized future attack from the past year or so and you may find a substantial portion depict UBL as dead.
So if the belief up to this point among his followers was that he was alive, and the "chatter" of the past year depicted him in paradise at the time of the coming strike, then the "Rubicon" is the point at which his followers no longer perceive a "live UBL" and they accept a "martyred UBL" (if people start believing he is dead, and there has been nothing further posted on that AFAIK).
The next (or post-attack) video/audio tape of UBL would therefore for the first time be that of one perceived to be beckoning martyrs from beyond the grave.
His last will and testament.
The issue of whether or not he is dead, (and if he is dead for how long), is largely irrelevant. What is relevant is not the reality but the perception.
UBL's well-publicized "martyrdom" (regardless of the actual time and manner of his demise) may be associated in some way with the coming operation. An announcement of his passing (whether or not it was recent) may be that signal. The "belly of the eagle" speech directly tied this coming strike to his supposed "martyrdom".
This "death chatter" might be the signal they have been waiting for.
Four major developments are coinciding to indicate imminence:
1) threat level being publicly described as unprecedented (past 2-3 weeks)
2) 90 day truce expiring (past 7-10 days)
3) emergence of elegiacal "martyrdom chatter" (past 24 hours?)
4) expiration of Saudi amnesty (this weekend?)
The actual event (the reality) is not the trigger - - the "breaking of the story" (the perception) is the trigger.
Maybe we will go to orange.
Actually, when I look back at the target map, the First one on the left, which I ID'ed as Rockafeller Center, is more likely Lincoln Center. Rockafeller Center is the building represented by the red mark about two-thirds down the staff, just below OBL.
Bear, I think I agree with you...
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