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To: Copernicus
Ummm a little more to the story than the excerpt alludes...

"Like most women I know, I have always worn it under my arm rather than across my chest, because of the discomfort and irritation."

So basically she had the shoulder strap BEHIND her.

3 posted on 07/18/2004 12:20:58 PM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: bikepacker67
So basically she had the shoulder strap BEHIND her

Basically, she is an individual,a sovereign citizen, a taxpayer, who may or may not have individual reasons for her actions which might include but not be limited to a medical condition and by decree of the Supreme Court of the United States can be summarily arrested, detained, fined and otherwise harassed by Government Employees.

Best regards,

6 posted on 07/18/2004 12:26:28 PM PDT by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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To: bikepacker67

I agree with you - she was wearing it incorrectly. She then got a ticket for doing so. Somehow, that fails to make me feel like I'm living in a police state.


13 posted on 07/18/2004 12:31:25 PM PDT by linear
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To: bikepacker67
"So basically she had the shoulder strap BEHIND her."

Not correct. She is secure with the waist part of the belt, and if a recently newer vehicle, probably had an air bag to boot.

14 posted on 07/18/2004 12:31:51 PM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: bikepacker67

the statement is misleading ... it was likely across her chest but rather than going past the neck, she slings it under her left arm, but it still goes across her chest ...

from the outside, the shoulder harness might not be visible in this method ... I know a short lady who does this because it rubs against her neck ... I told her I considered it potentially dangerous, but it is still across her chest and would restrain the chest, but the left arm would be lifted during decceleration and impact ...


25 posted on 07/18/2004 12:40:29 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: bikepacker67

Not behind her, but not up to her neck. IN FRONT of her but under her arm. She needs to buy one of those seat belt adjustment products. Government needs to quit telling us how to live our lives. And lawyers need to be stopped from suing the state to pay for people who are injured as a result of not wearing their seatbelts. And we'll all live happily ever after... :)


39 posted on 07/18/2004 1:23:26 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: bikepacker67
"Like most women I know, I have always worn it under my arm rather than across my chest, because of the discomfort and irritation."

Does this woman and all her friends have Dolly Parton boobs or something? What discomfort and irritation? I don't even notice my seatbelt when I'm wearing it. And I certainly don't know any women who put the shoulder strap behind them.

43 posted on 07/18/2004 1:30:31 PM PDT by wimpycat ("The road to the promised land runs past Sinai."-C.S. Lewis)
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To: bikepacker67
"Like most women I know, I have always worn it under my arm rather than across my chest, because of the discomfort and irritation."

So basically she had the shoulder strap BEHIND her.

Not necessarily. My wife wears it the same way, and for the same reason. She slips her arm OVER the belt. It's still on, just across her chest at a lower level.

53 posted on 07/18/2004 2:28:18 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberalism has developed into a mental disorder)
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To: bikepacker67
So basically she had the shoulder strap BEHIND her.

Nope... I know a number of people who do this, particularly if they're short, and the shoulder strap height isn't adjustable.

Imagine how a normal shoulder belt crosses your shoulder, then goes across your chest to your waist. For shorter people, rather than going across the shoulder, it goes across their throat. So instead, they "thread" the shoulder belt under the armpit, and then across the lowerchest and belly. Of couse, the restraint was designed to go across bone, and not soft body tissue, so in an accident, there could be significant damage and injuries.

Mark

80 posted on 07/18/2004 5:49:42 PM PDT by MarkL (A werewolf?? Werewolf?? .... "There.... Wolf!")
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To: bikepacker67

No, the excerpt is from later in the article.

These are two different women, one wearing it under her arm, one wearing it "too loosely".

I wonder how many people were victims of a crime while these women were being harassed??


87 posted on 07/18/2004 7:13:53 PM PDT by Politicalmom ( Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but they're not entitled to their own facts -D. Rumsfeld)
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