Posted on 07/16/2004 8:42:13 AM PDT by presidio9
KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- For most little boys, circumcision is a decision for the parents to make. But the Missouri Supreme Court may make that decision for one local boy because his parents don't agree.
Two-and-a-half-year-old Ethan Azar's mother does not want to have him circumcised.
"There's no medical society in the world that recommends it, including the American Academy of Pediatrics," said Camille Azar.
But Ethan's father was recently granted sole custody. He wants his son circumcised. While the boy's father and his attorney would not appear on camera, they did cite personal, social and health reasons for wanting the circumcision, KMBC's Kelly Eckerman reported.
Circumcision removes the layer of skin covering the penis. It is something more and more parents are opting not to do, Eckerman said. The medical community calls it a personal decision.
"Everyone has their bias. But we try to base recommendations on sound medical evidence and it just isn't there to say yes or no," Dr. Ken Wible said.
Lower courts refused to intervene, so the case is now going to the Missouri Supreme Court to see if Ethan's father should be able to go ahead with the circumcision.
"The fact the courts have ruled he can make medical decisions doesn't mean he can make a decision to have part of the healthy living flesh of the child cut off," said Dennis Owens, Camille Azar's attorney.
Doctors did tell KMBC that Ethan's age is a factor.
"At that age, a child is going to need anesthesia," Wible said.
Camille Azar said that the decision should be up to her son when he's older.
"I want Ethan to make the decision about his own body," Camille Azar said.
Eckerman said that religion plays a role in some families' decisions about circumcision, but that has not been an issue here. The battle over Ethan's circumcision comes in the middle of a custody battle. A decision from the state's high court is expected within two weeks.
Bet most of those in the relentless pursuit are circumcised.
120 posts and nobody's noted that this description is just wrong. Makes it sound like they peel the top layer off the whole thing.
SD
90 posts later and nobody's said "get married"?
SD
No one cares about that. These days you tell a guy to he has to wait he'll go running for the nearest slut. A guy who is chaste is accused of being gay.
Antidote to oral sex = wedding cake
Sure after a thorough demonstration of maturity and committment, maybe a ring and a wedding date. Otherwise BUH BYE and remember genital fungus/herpes can be a b*tch :-)
I can imagine. "Women's liberation" and all that. When the gatekeepers fail in their function, you can bet the barbarians will storm in.
SD
BM: "What's with the smile?"
Groom: "Last night, she gave me the best BJ ever."
Meanwhile, the bridesmaid has noticed that the bride also has a huge smile on her face.
Bridesmaid:"What's with the smile?"
Bride:"Last night, I gave my last BJ ever."
Pretend your coughing or something like I do at work when FReeping.
Pretend you're coughing or something like I do at work when FReeping.
A friend of my dad's had to undergo circumcision as an adult, in a military hospital, for the same reason you mention. He was a VERY unhappy camper for a considerable time.
My adopted son was snipped as a two-day-old infant (and if he had been my bio-kid, my hubby and I would have opted for the procedure anyway). When he was seven, he had to go into outpatient surgery for revision of a small adhesion at the circumcision site. It was no big deal - there was not even enough bleeding to warrant a gauze pad and the anesthesia was the worst part. He was apprehensive beforehand but allowed afterwards as how it had been a big fuss over nothing.
Anyhow, in the course of our discussions with the surgeon he mentioned that puberty is the major borderline as far as pain, bleeding, etc. So the anesthesia would be the major consideration for a two year old.
BTW, my grandmother forgot to get my dad circumcised (he was born at home) until he had his tonsils out around age 12. Nobody told him about the free bonus operation he was going to get -- he tells me he remembers thinking that his tonsils had awfully deep roots . . .
Notice I said wait too... if you say no sex till marriage well a girl can look forward to a life of knitting and house cats. All the liberal chicks putting out makes it difficult, esp. here in NY where women outnumber men and guys have lots of choices.
Ear piercing is reversible. This isn't, and at two it's a much more difficult procedure.
It's nothing but cosmetic surgery.
As a woman whose experience is, um, largely confined to those who have had the surgery, seeing one who hasn't is something of a startle. Even if we're warned first.
There sure is - you just can't recognize it. Lighten up, Francis.
Regular bathing solves that problem.
Then he dumps her and finds a more willing chick!
lol. Took you long enough
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