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Will Doom 3 revive the struggling PC Gaming Industry?
CNN:Money ^ | July 14, 2004 | Chris Morris

Posted on 07/15/2004 7:51:30 AM PDT by Paradox

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Since 2000, developer id Software has told the world the next installment of "Doom," the game that kicked off the action genre, would ship "when it's done."

Good news, gamers: It's done. In the lexicon of the industry, "Doom 3" has gone gold.That means with id Software's work done, publisher Activision is duplicating copies to ship to retail. What it all boils down to is you'll be able to pick up a copy at retail on Aug. 5, though some stores could start selling the game as early as Aug. 3.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: doom3; firstpersonshooter; idsoftware; itsdone; johncarmack
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To: BrooklynGOP
Like how much time does spend

huh? You spent too much time in Russia.

But if you are asking how much time it consumes, well, it just depends. My current CAL team practices at least 3 nights a week, for 4 or 5 hours.

I guess if we had a FR clan, we could join ProvingGrounds.com (a less serious league) and challenge DU'ers to join it too....

361 posted on 07/16/2004 9:49:02 AM PDT by Texaggie79 (Did I just say that?)
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LOOKIE THIS!!!
Gamespot.com has different movies and screenshots of the XBox version of Doom 3. Check it out.

I pay for it, so I don't know if it's available on the "Free" side.
362 posted on 07/16/2004 9:51:10 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: Archangelsk

I really do appreciate and respect your point of view, but you should really look at it much deeper. Search for some of the psych studies and see what they say about problem solving and video games. Do you think reading is a waste of time? Playing a game is the same as reading a book, but instead of being a passive experience/observer you become an active participant. You are no longer just reading how someone else solved a problem... you have to solve it. I may get flamed for this, and this is not meant to offened, but maybe if the people at NASA had played games they would have scrutinized the situation a little bit better and prevented a tragedy that didn't have to happen.

Take Care,


363 posted on 07/16/2004 9:55:53 AM PDT by Patriot Hooligan
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To: Texaggie79

That was supposed to be "How much time does one spend?". Dude, 15 hours a week is crazy :>


364 posted on 07/16/2004 10:19:17 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: antiRepublicrat

I used to use an AMD chip, but left them when Germany began stabbing us in the back.

An FX-53 is about $800, with the 939 pin being a tad more. If I am going to spend that kind of cash, I will dump $200 more in and get the 3.4EE with the 2 MB level 3 cache, in the 775 pin form(the 925X chipset, when available).

I might look at AMD's 64 bit systems when Windows 64 comes out in retail version (its only a beta right now)though I'm not sure the 64 bit is going to be as hot as some people say.


365 posted on 07/16/2004 10:23:39 AM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (Proud Member of the Reagan Republicans)
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To: Paradox

The dooms got too hard to use. I'd rather download user written WAD's. City of Doom was quite nice.


366 posted on 07/16/2004 10:27:06 AM PDT by djf
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To: Paradox

And I wish they'd give us more Duke Nukem 3D. The first was really a hoot, and had a lot of secrets and problems. That game was alot of fun to play.


367 posted on 07/16/2004 10:30:38 AM PDT by djf
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To: Paradox

Darn. There goes any chance I will get any work done in August.


368 posted on 07/16/2004 10:31:56 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor (John Edwards: Qualifications? we don' need no steenkin' qualifications!)
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To: BrooklynGOP

I know. I did 15 hours in one day once.


369 posted on 07/16/2004 10:55:58 AM PDT by Texaggie79 (Did I just say that?)
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To: Texaggie79

That's cause you're on welfare :>


370 posted on 07/16/2004 10:58:44 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: Textide

I play Eve. Evemail me Harisdrop!


371 posted on 07/16/2004 11:11:49 AM PDT by Baseballguy
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To: ex 98C MI Dude
I'm not sure the 64 bit is going to be as hot as some people say.

You should get quite a boost from experiences already had with UT on 64-bit Linux. From Tim Sweeney of Epic games:

The extra registers [actually, twice the registers] can give you a significant performance gain in loops which currently have to spill over into memory. The on-die memory controller reduces the path for uncached reads significantly, which is a huge win for applications like Unreal which are memory-limited. On the other hand, pointers grow from 4 bytes to 8, so traversal of linked data structures takes an additional bandwidth hit. I think you'll probably see a clock-for-clock improvement over Athlon XP of around 30% in applications like Unreal that do a significant amount of varied computational work over a large dataset.
Going 64 may not help with word processing, but it apparently will help quite a bit with these demanding games. This is an AthlonXP vs. 64 comparison, which counts an architecture that just in general gives at least a 10% improvement, but you should see maybe a 10%+ improvement going from 32 to 64 on the same AthlonFX chip.
372 posted on 07/16/2004 11:58:53 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: this_ol_patriot
Do you play SP or on the ladder?

Heya. I play both. I play a lot on Battle.net, mainly because I have a bad habit of starting many characters. :)

Haven't heard of the synergies or the unlimited stash, are these hacks?

I'm up for a game anytime.

373 posted on 07/16/2004 1:59:26 PM PDT by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: yhwhsman

The synergies are where points in one skill strengthen another skill, for example as a Paladin putting points in sacrifice will add 12% per point to zeal damage, there are many other synergies. Mainly it helps to add more variety to builds as not make them as "cookie cutter" and makes use of those wasted unused skills. It's a new feature that came with the 1.10 patch, you have them if you are playing on Battlenet.

The unlimited stash is one of the features of ATMA, a third party muling program. It has a number of other features like a bank that you can share amoung characters and a drop calculator. It is for SP only.

http://atma.diabloii.net/


374 posted on 07/16/2004 2:30:27 PM PDT by this_ol_patriot
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To: RandallFlagg

Hey, I just finished building a PC a couple of days ago and I have the Thermaltake Xaser III Super Tower. Building from scratch was great because I could get exactely what I wanted (within budget).


375 posted on 07/16/2004 3:49:12 PM PDT by Chesterbelloc
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To: Paradox

hello? wasn't this due out in April?

I love Wolfenstein and MOH, btw. Just no time to play.


376 posted on 07/16/2004 3:50:12 PM PDT by Jon Alvarez
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To: BrooklynGOP

That reminds me, i should apply for that. Why shouldn't I mooch of those that work hard?


377 posted on 07/16/2004 4:08:40 PM PDT by Texaggie79 (Did I just say that?)
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To: Chesterbelloc

Well? Ya gonna post a picture of your new system?

Show the FReepers what a great looking Xaser case looks like...


378 posted on 07/16/2004 4:18:46 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: antiRepublicrat

I still think I am going to hold off on the next Gaming Box. The PCI Express X16 interface for video cards may just be worth the wait.


379 posted on 07/16/2004 4:45:21 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: Foxfire4
Cool, I'll keep it in mind the next time I replay. Though I didn't mind giving the credits to the bounty-hunted dude on Taris, raising a mental middle finger in the direction of Ayn Rand the whole time. ;-)

The one thing that amazes me is that on Korriban I can be the equivalent of a heroin smuggler and Mafia errand boy for the Hutts and not get a single darkside point, but I get darkside points if I waste a freaking slaver even after offering to bring him in alive. The lightside/darkside point system in KOTOR mystifies me sometimes.

380 posted on 07/16/2004 8:53:42 PM PDT by RogueIsland
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