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little jeremiah wrote: Right, once moral absolutes are rejected and sex becomes an orgiastic free for all, with abandoned children, deserted wives, cuckolded husbands, people deciding they are "gay" after years of marriage and children, sexual predators looking for young victims to rape or seduce [keep in mind that roughly one third of all child molestation is same sex], countless promiscuous homosexuals having anonymous sex in public establishments - yes, I would say that issues relating to sex have become VERY complex. It's important to note that the promiscuity rates for homosexuals are drastically, wildly higher than those for heterosexual people. They can't even be compared. The reason homosexual activists want "gay" marriage has zero, nothing to do with the desire to promote monogamy. How do I know? I accept what these homosexual spokespeople say about it:

Um, when you accept the Reverend Fred Phelps as the spokesperson for Christianity, then these people can become mine. Until then, nobody is my spokesperson. I didn't vote for these people to speak for me. And I can go out there and dig up just as many quotes to the contrary and would have just as much [or, in fact, as little] legitimacy as the people you cite. Hell, I've gone on enough media (CNN, VH1, Travel Channel, and hundreds of others) where I've spoken as the Witches of Salem. Do I speak for all of them? No. Do they all think I speak for them? No. The reality is, in this day and age, it's just a matter of getting out there and you can speak for anyone and I take advantage of that loophole in the system the same way that these sources you cite do. The difference is that I don't expect the truly intelligent people to buy it. *snicker*. I could declare myself a Christian tomorrow and can almost guarantee you, with my media contacts, I could be speaking for most of you. But the fact is, it's all smoke and mirrors just as these people you cite. They don't represent my views in every respect.

I am attending a reception for two of my best friends in the world who are, like me, homosexual (I figure you like that word better and I like controversy, so what the heck, I'll indulge you). I personally don't care if I ever get married so the issue isn't *that* important to me, though neither am I promiscuous, just very focussed on my career. What I can say, however, is that these two friends of mine take their marriage *very* seriously. They aren't doing it because of some silly agenda. They are doing it because they've been together for many years and they love each other. I've never met a couple, gay or straight, who gets along better, who treat people better, and who are more liked, by a rather broad cross-section of people to boot. If anything, I support the issue for them and I'm happy to see them fulfill such a long goal.

Furthermore, I'm always seeing you on here trying to link up gay people with child molestation as if somehow we're all that way. I resent it. Heck, when I do deign to date someone, they're usually older than me. Anyone can take some wacko and try to paint a picture of a whole bunch of other folks with that one reject, but those kinds of generalizations will almost always marginalize the people who do it in the end because smart people know that this is just crap. It's like my personal favorite, something done on BOTH the left and the right ... comparing anyone you don't like to Nazi's. It has to be one of the most intellectually weak tactics I've ever seen and people on both ends of the political spectrum do it including, I might add, you.

I will end by saying ... thank you for your vitriol. It makes my job of convincing decent, rational people that much easier when I have this kind of filth to compare my statements to.

Did you know homosexuals were considered mentally insane until the '80's? They were considered a danger to normal society.
They were let out to save money, because they weren't considered dangerous, but that was before they killed all those people with AIDs.
They should be put back in. Look at the lawlessness and diseases they've created. Our ancestors were right. They are a danger to society.

I am attending a reception for two of my best friends in the world who are, like me, homosexual

The heck with fascist mind control. That's just plain sick!

I will end by saying ... thank you for your vitriol. It makes my job of convincing decent, rational people that much easier when I have this kind of filth to compare my statements to.

I heard on the radio "homophobia" is on the rise around the world. The Marxist propaganda is wearing off.

The "filth" you mention was written by felllow homosexuals. I didn't write it.

The fact is that roughly one third of child molestations are same sex. That is not my invention. It is factual. It is also factual that historically, and currently, homosexuals IN GENERAL have a proclivity towards pederasty - meaning men attracted to younger boys, either pre or post adolescent, for sexual pleasure. So why are my statements of fact "filth" or vitriol?

Where is the word "Nazi" in any of my comments?

And why are you bringing Phelps into this? He's a sick nutcase and I have nothing to do with him or his ilk, nor would I ever. I would cross the street to avoid even seeing him.

You are indulging in dishonest debating tactics. I present facts, and statements by homosexual spokespeople. You start making phony connections between me (since I disagree with the homosexual agenda) and Phelps, who is a vicious madman.

You mention a couple of friends who are devoted to each as though this anecdotal evidence in any way contradicts the factual evidence that a great number of homosexuals - especially men - are wildly promiscuous, and outdo heterosexuals in this regard.

Then you drag in the word "Nazi" gratuitously.

Are you next going to deny that there is a homosexual agenda to promote it in schools?

Consider where we've come from, RavenMoon. In the old days, that being days of the Bible, homosexuals were stoned to death. I believe that the we treat people with far more tolerance than they deserve.

It is defined clearly in the Bible that homosexuality is immoral behavior and should not be tolerated. Hence, stoning was a hideous death which sent a clear example to others. Here it is: Homosexuality is wrong, period!

Now our Founding Fathers founded this society based upon Common Law from England, the Bible, and some good old fashioned sense. They didn't want government involved in people's lives. And that means in schools or any other government entity. Futhermore, the U.S. Supreme Court should not be making laws. That is the job of the legislature. Enough said.