The "filth" you mention was written by felllow homosexuals. I didn't write it.
The fact is that roughly one third of child molestations are same sex. That is not my invention. It is factual. It is also factual that historically, and currently, homosexuals IN GENERAL have a proclivity towards pederasty - meaning men attracted to younger boys, either pre or post adolescent, for sexual pleasure. So why are my statements of fact "filth" or vitriol?
Where is the word "Nazi" in any of my comments?
And why are you bringing Phelps into this? He's a sick nutcase and I have nothing to do with him or his ilk, nor would I ever. I would cross the street to avoid even seeing him.
You are indulging in dishonest debating tactics. I present facts, and statements by homosexual spokespeople. You start making phony connections between me (since I disagree with the homosexual agenda) and Phelps, who is a vicious madman.
You mention a couple of friends who are devoted to each as though this anecdotal evidence in any way contradicts the factual evidence that a great number of homosexuals - especially men - are wildly promiscuous, and outdo heterosexuals in this regard.
Then you drag in the word "Nazi" gratuitously.
Are you next going to deny that there is a homosexual agenda to promote it in schools?
Ok, gonna try to respond to this in pieces...
Jeremiah wrote: The "filth" you mention was written by felllow homosexuals. I didn't write it.
These people do not speak for me anymore than Fred Phelps speaks for you, a point you obviously didn't see I was trying to make. Let's hope it hits a home run this time around. ;-D
Jeremiah wrote: "The fact is that roughly one third of child molestations are same sex. That is not my invention. It is factual. It is also factual that historically, and currently, homosexuals IN GENERAL have a proclivity towards pederasty - meaning men attracted to younger boys, either pre or post adolescent, for sexual pleasure. So why are my statements of fact "filth" or vitriol?"
None of the "homosexuals" I know are into children, at least that I know of, and the "facts" you're touting are the same drivel that's repeated from one anti-gay site to another. That doesn't make it fact. In fact, I've always read that the vast majority of "pederasty" is committed by adult men upon young girls. Not having personal experience in either, I'm not going to try to prove one or the other but, again, those people do not speak for ME. If you want them to represent ME, than I think it's perfectly fair for Fred Phelps to represent YOU. I see no difference in this type of debate tactic and frankly, given the intelligence exhibited by your language, it's weak and you can do better.
Jeremiah wrote: "Where is the word "Nazi" in any of my comments?"
Feigned coyness is almost as weak a tactic as comparing people to Nazis. Come off it. LOL. If you really want me to take only this thread into consideration, then no, that word is not in your comments, but how many times have I read your posts about the Pink Swastika material? Apparently, much of that has been refuted in an annotated copy online. I plan to read it when I have a chance, but again, the Nazis don't speak for ME anymore than these OTHER people you cite as my representatives. If you want to know what *I* think about my personal homosexual experience, here I am. Ask away. If, on the other hand, you want to put me in some box that makes me easy for you to categorize, then expect the same in kind.
Jeremiah wrote: "And why are you bringing Phelps into this? He's a sick nutcase and I have nothing to do with him or his ilk, nor would I ever. I would cross the street to avoid even seeing him. "
Thank you for making my point for me. I feel exactly the same way about Gay Nazis and NAMBLA people that you seem to think speak for me.
Jeremiah wrote: "You are indulging in dishonest debating tactics. I present facts, and statements by homosexual spokespeople. You start making phony connections between me (since I disagree with the homosexual agenda) and Phelps, who is a vicious madman."
And how is this not contradictory? Who gave you the supreme right to decide who is a spokesperson and who is a vicious madman? Personally, I'd throw Fred Phelps in same sinking ship with the Gay Nazis and NAMBLA people. None of them are my spokespeople. In fact, with the amount of national media exposure I seem to get these days, NOBODY is my spokesperson except ME. If I have something I want to express to large numbers of people, I have no problem getting it heard. No need to allow anyone else to do it for me.
Jeremiah wrote: "You mention a couple of friends who are devoted to each as though this anecdotal evidence in any way contradicts the factual evidence that a great number of homosexuals - especially men - are wildly promiscuous, and outdo heterosexuals in this regard."
Yes, but why on earth would anyone who preferred being promiscuous want to get married? That just doesn't even make any sense. I suppose there are promiscuous married couples, gay and straight, who "swing," or whatever the term is these days, but the gay couples I know are rather committed to one another and I've always been personally turned off by promiscuity, so, again, you're lumping me into a box with people whose views I don't share, and yet you complain when I do the same [Phelps] to you. Interesting.
Jeremiah wrote: "Then you drag in the word "Nazi" gratuitously."
Do I? If I had a nickel for everytime you've used one of these threads to link homosexuals with Nazis, I'd be on a sailboat in the Caribbean and wouldn't have time to respond to you right now. ;-D
Jeremiah wrote: "Are you next going to deny that there is a homosexual agenda to promote it in schools?"
And *that's* not a slanted, loaded question? Promote exactly *what* in schools? I don't think anything should be "promoted" as being superior, thank you, but I don't think that the child of a homosexual couple should feel ashamed to go to school and say "I have two mommies" or whatever the hell the term is these days. I don't think a homosexual 15 year old should have to hide who he or she is out of shame. You color your question with slanted language to make it sound different than it is. Do I think we should be telling people that they should go out of their way to be gay? Heavens no. God knows most of the lemmings aren't strong enough in their own persons not to be hurt by statements by people like you and I wouldn't wish that on anyone. However, the fact remains, those feelings are ingrained and they should be respected. Is it genetic? I have no idea. I'm not a geneticist and neither is anyone else on this list I imagine. I theorize that it's developmental, and I despise homosexual activists when they try to fight research into the subject because they're afraid of finding out a truth they won't like. However, my guess is that it happens in the womb. THat, of course, is neither here nor there. When I first realized my [involuntary] attractions, I could choose to do one of two things. I could listen to what people like you think or I could do it my way. I'm sure you can guess the path I took. If people choose to presume what my moral and ethical compasses are, that's their choice but I refuse to acknowledge it anymore than I absolutely have to.