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Remember Buchanan's convention speech in Houston?

Posted on 07/12/2004 7:52:29 AM PDT by 1Old Pro

I clearly recall Buchanan's speech at the Houston GOP convention having watched it live and recoreded it on tape for future review.

I listened to it at least 3 times. This was when Pat was still a Republican and before he went off the deep end.

Personally, I thought this was one of the greatest speeched ever given at a convention. The media went NUTS. They talked about His hate filled, mean spirited speech for MONTHS on every single TV show and in every article written on the convention.

This year our convention will be full of moderates and boring speeches. Would you prefer conservative speeches that speak to many of our values AND the months of media criticism and labeling of the GOP as hateful? I would. Reagan spread the conservative word and I think the GOP of the 21st century should do the same and stop trying to run from our values.


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To: cajungirl; bayourod; Junior_G; Howlin; Badeye; Poohbah
why explain? It has been a long time. I remember watching it after having moved to a new house and having no furniture so having to sleep on the floor waiting for the movers. I just remember hating it, feeling somewhat revolted by it and not liking Buchanan. I still don't like Buchanan. No reason to explain or argue, just don't like the man.

That's an explanation in itself, it's wasn't the word for word assessment of the speech, rather the man.

By 1992 Buchanan’s views were well known.

His opposition to all forms of civil rights legislation was clear.

His opposition to integration was clear, the Negroes get their schools, we get ours, no harm, no foul, and there’s more of us than them. I'm not sure if the 15 points lower IQ (negroes, that's why you can't integrate them) memo was public yet.

He’d had his dalliance with Holocaust denial and the martyrdom fantasies of survivors, his columns published in the Spotlight.

He was clear that the recent war (Gulf War I) was opposed by everyone but Jews and the “Amen Corner”, not surprising in view of the Israeli occupation of Washington, DC.

He had suggested the Republican Party analyze David Dukes views and incorporate those “cultural” issues that were winners. His former employer, William Buckley had condemned him.

The list goes on. By bumping Ronald Reagan in favor of Pat Buchanan, the Republican party appeared at worst to embrace these views, at best to embrace those who hold them.

A stupid decision, imo, Pat had no place speaking for the Republican Party. Of course facts have born that out.

101 posted on 07/12/2004 11:19:58 AM PDT by SJackson (Be careful -- with quotations, you can damn anything, Andre Malraux)
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To: SJackson
The list goes on. By bumping Ronald Reagan in favor of Pat Buchanan, the Republican party appeared at worst to embrace these views, at best to embrace those who hold them.

Yup.

When the GOP bumped Reagan, they committed electoral hara-kiri to try an appease the folks who were going to vote for Perot anyway, just out of spite for Bush.

102 posted on 07/12/2004 11:21:55 AM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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To: Keith
Let's give them a chance.

Aren't you the dreamer!

These people want Tom Tancredo, Alan Keyes, and Pat or nobody!

103 posted on 07/12/2004 11:23:13 AM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: 1Old Pro

i've never liked buchanan.

he's a troll.


104 posted on 07/12/2004 11:24:35 AM PDT by no_problema
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To: bayourod
That was over the top extremism. I'm not at war with any other loyal Americans, regardless of their religious or cultural beliefs.

Of course there is a religious war going on in this country between the religious and the secularists? It pervades the news every day, from homosexual marriage to the right to pray in schools, to standards of decency in broadcasting.

105 posted on 07/12/2004 11:24:54 AM PDT by Texas Federalist
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To: no_problema
i've never liked buchanan. he's a troll.

Swedish?

106 posted on 07/12/2004 11:26:14 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: KC_Conspirator
He dared to criticize abortion and homosexual rights.

That passes for hate these days, you know?

107 posted on 07/12/2004 11:28:14 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Howlin
These people want Tom Tancredo, Alan Keyes, and Pat or nobody!

Keyes would be good :)

108 posted on 07/12/2004 11:28:14 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro
What we need are conservatives who are great speakers IMHO.

Who?

109 posted on 07/12/2004 11:28:46 AM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: B Knotts
He dared to criticize abortion and homosexual rights. That passes for hate these days, you know?

Yep, newspeak

110 posted on 07/12/2004 11:28:54 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: cajungirl
Buchanan could recite the constitution and his tone, his manner, his pompous self, the edge of hate in his voice would make it a bad speech.

These unsupported ad hominem attacks on Buchanan are no different than the justification the left uses to attack Bush.

111 posted on 07/12/2004 11:29:33 AM PDT by Texas Federalist
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To: Doctor Stochastic

That speech cost a lot of things in addition to the Jews that would vote republican. I agree with you but the Buchanan idealogues don't get it.


112 posted on 07/12/2004 11:30:56 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: SJackson

Absolutely the truth, word for word.


113 posted on 07/12/2004 11:31:49 AM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: 1Old Pro

I hope you're kidding.

Keyes would be worse than Buchanan every THOUGHT about being.


114 posted on 07/12/2004 11:33:16 AM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
"This speech probably cost the GOP the Jewish vote for at least two generations. It was probably the single biggest event in getting Clinton elected."

Perhaps we should have former NYC Mayor Ed Koch - Jew - Democrat - New Yorker - Bush Suporter.

115 posted on 07/12/2004 11:33:24 AM PDT by Positive (There's nothing sadder than seeing a group of great ideas being murdered by a bunch of brutal facts!)
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To: Junior_G

ROFL


116 posted on 07/12/2004 11:34:03 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Texas Federalist; cajungirl

What makes you think that is unsupported?

I support her view.


117 posted on 07/12/2004 11:34:31 AM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: cyborg
That speech cost a lot of things in addition to the Jews that would vote republican. I agree with you but the Buchanan idealogues don't get it.

Imagine, a speach at a Republican convention touting conservative principles instead of trying to appear more like the Democrats. The horror!

Guliani and the Governator . . . what a joke.

118 posted on 07/12/2004 11:35:01 AM PDT by Texas Federalist
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To: Texas Federalist

No Zell Miller either?


119 posted on 07/12/2004 11:35:32 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: Texas Federalist
Yep. You know...I'm no Buchanan fan, nor was I at the time, but...I thought the reaction to his speech was just plain weird. It was a good speech, and he was proven right.

Some people say they don't want to fight a culture war...fine, but realize that one is being waged regardless.

120 posted on 07/12/2004 11:36:01 AM PDT by B Knotts
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