Posted on 07/08/2004 7:10:31 AM PDT by doug from upland
Edited on 07/08/2004 2:03:56 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Jayna Davis, author of THE THIRD TERRORIST, is scheduled today for the Larry Elder show, guest hosted by Doug McIntyre. The time is 3pm Pacific. Then at 6pm Pacific, she will be on this thread to answer questions.
Jayna's work in exposing the Iraqi connection in the OKC bombing has been endorsed by James Woolsey, Dave Schippers, and Frank Gaffney. No, folks, McVeigh and Nichols did not act alone.
If you haven't read the book, please look over the info on the website, particularly the interview done on the Glen Beck show. You can listen to the Larry Elder show online by going to the KABC WEBSITE.
Let's try to make it easy for Jayna. Because I anticipate a busy thread with lots of comments, please use red font to ask questions.
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QUESTION: Jayna, why did Tim McVeigh not rat out his Iraqi pals?
I also consider you an American hero for putting your career in jeopardy to get this story out.
May the good Lord be with you.
That is a great website!!
Oklahoma City bomber Terry Nichols met with World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef in the Philippines before he and Timothy McVeigh carried out their plot, investigative reporter Jayna Davis said Wednesday.
"Terry Nichols and Ramzi Yousef met personally in the Philippines on the island of Mindanao in the early 1990s to discuss, of all things, bombmaking," Davis told ABC Radio Network host John Batchelor.
On Wednesday, an Oklahoma jury returned a 161-count murder verdict against Nichols. He is expected to face the death penalty. But the bizarre Yousef-Nichols tie-in did not come up in the trial.
Davis said she didn't think Nichols would ever discuss his relationship with Yousef, who devised a plot known as Operation Bojinka, a kamikaze airliner hijacking plan that became the blueprint for the 9/11 attacks.
"Sources close to the defense have told me, and this comes from recorded conversations with his wife, Lana Padilla, that Terry Nichols is going to remain clammed up for the rest of his natural days on earth," Davis told Batchelor.
I don't have those pictures. John Doe is not Padilla.
Should be an interesting read tommorrow.
Pinging you to this thread.
This thing has stunk like a carp in the glovebox since day one.
I can't remember where I read it, but I remember reading that after OKC, Clinton only had 5 full-time FBI agents working on the problem of Islamic terror. Does anyone else remember that or have the source?
Michael might not have been the third terrorist, but the damage he is doing to this nation while we are at war is despicable.
"You are making a mistake not reading this book. Even some Congress critters tried to debunk the stuff in this book and came away with more questions than answers.
I originally thought it was all conspiracy theory but the more I read in various Oklahoma newspapers, the more I began to get interested. The book is footnoted and well researched."
Hmmmm. Nice thing about books....they don't get "deleted" or "lost". I'll wait and see what comes of this latest coming out party for Ms Davis, and continue to look in on threads related for the time being.
Appreciate your comments.
Here's another book I've got to get....... With all these books, I'm gonna run out of money.
Also, interesting link in post #36.
Don't know if you've read any of these or not, but there's a lot of good threads about this subject archived here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/involved?group=159
Jayna should make a *real* documentary using all the data she has compiled.
An Oklahoma City attorney says he and others have gathered a "mountain" of evidence that implicates Iraq in both the Oklahoma City bombings and the Sept. 11 attacks.
"On the seventh anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing, a number of the victims of the Murrah Building tragedy wish to begin the process of informing the American people of an ever-growing mountain of evidence implicating the state of Iraq," said John M. Johnston, in a statement to be released during a press conference in Oklahoma City on Friday – seven years to the day after the OKC bombing.
"Everyone knows what happened in Oklahoma City at the Alfred P. Murrah Building on April 19, 1995," Johnston said. "However, only a handful of people know that on that very day someone other than Tim McVeigh or Terry Nichols 'confessed' to being involved in the terrorist bombing plot that killed 168 people … ."
Johnston said Abdul Hakim Murrad, who was in federal custody in New York City awaiting trial for plotting to blow up airliners, told jailers – "and later the FBI" – that the OKC bombing "had been orchestrated by his former roommate in the Philippines, Ramzi Youssef," the "most wanted terrorist in the world until his capture in Pakistan in February 1995."
He went on to say that Youssef was the "mastermind" behind the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993, and that the evidence pointed to connections between him, Murrad and Nichols in the Philippines. Nichols' phone records show that he made 13 "unidentified calls" from his home in Kansas to the Philippines in early April 1995, Johnston said.
Johnston also said his evidence "will show that the Republic of Iraq and [President] Saddam Hussein were involved in funding and planning" the OKC bombing.
Evidence suggests that Youssef and Murrad are Iraqi agents, Charles Key, a former Oklahoma legislator and currently a primary member of the Oklahoma Bombing Investigation Committee, told WorldNetDaily yesterday.
The Oklahoma attorney, in his statement, claims that "certain elements of the United States government must have known" about the "foreign involvement all along," though he did not elaborate.
"Indeed, in a recent Freedom of Information Act lawsuit seeking to obtain relevant information concerning" the alleged involvement of other unidentified bombers, "federal Judge Wayne Alley observed in written orders that, '… The FBI had maintained a shroud of secrecy around the entire bombing case since 1995,'" said the statement.
Johnston said the evidence supports his claim that the FBI was "ignoring substantial evidence of a major international terrorist offensive, conceived and planned in the Philippines sometime between 1991 and 1994," which "produced tragic consequences of its own."
He said by ignoring Youssef's plan, codenamed "Project Bojinka" or "Big Boom," the FBI "created a situation that resulted in less than complete justice for the victims of the OKC bombing."
"Specifically, other major terrorist acts were revealed on Ramsey Youssef's laptop computer, which was seized by Philippine authorities in January 1995, as [Murrad] was arrested," Johnston said. "The most devastating of these new terrorist actions manifested itself on Sept. 11, 2001 … at a cost of almost 4,000 American civilian dead."
Johnston said the news conference is scheduled for 10 a.m. Central time at the "Christ Averting His Eyes" memorial, just west of the bombing memorial in Oklahoma City. The conference will begin 30 minutes after a memorial service for those killed in the attack.
Johnston's announcement follows other legal action attempting to connect Iraq to the bombing.
In March, a class action lawsuit was filed in federal district court in Washington, D.C., by public interest law firm Judicial Watch against Iraq for that state's alleged involvement in the OKC bombing.
"Plaintiffs assert that the entire plot was, in whole or in part, orchestrated, assisted technically and/or financially, and directly aided by agents of the Republic of Iraq," the suit said.
Federal officials have repeatedly said the attack on the Murrah Building was committed by former Army vet McVeigh – who was executed June 11, 2001 – and accomplice Nichols, now serving a life sentence for his role in the bombing.
The FBI says the explosion, which destroyed nearly one-third of the building, was the result of a huge ammonium nitrate-laden truck bomb parked in front of the building.
"We knew as early as 1995 that Iraq was likely involved in the bombing," Keys said.
He said he and other committee members knew based on research done by Brad Edwards and Jayna Davis, who worked at the time for an NBC television affiliate in Oklahoma City.
Davis, in March 2001, was the first reporter to publicly announce an alleged connection between al-Qaida terrorist leader Osama bin Laden – wanted in connection with the Sept. 11 attacks – and the OKC bombing.
I've checked that one out, but thank you for going to the trouble of linking,. I appreciate it.
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