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I was starting to believe all of the younger generation of today were ignorant and apathetic toward anything other then their computers and games. I've been trying to teach as many youngsters (as well as adults) about the Constitution and what a true constitutional government is all about.
Just about every youngster I talk to tells me that their (public) school teachs them little or NOTHING about the constitution and our Republic.

Even the private Christian schools teach little or nothing about our constitutional representative government.

It does my heart good to see a 15 year old who goes beyond the class room to learn the truth and has the guts to print the truth. This young man inspires me to continue the fight for liberty.

1 posted on 07/04/2004 7:33:03 AM PDT by Mikey
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To: Mikey

We started out as Free and Independent states (each having a Constitution prior to the Federal government. But we needed prior a National Army, a National Monetary system and a National Court and National Powers. But the states came a beggin' and the thing blew up. So now mucho money goes to the Fed and BACK to the states. It would be nice to go back to go!!


3 posted on 07/04/2004 7:48:22 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Mikey

I'm a RINO because I still believe in limited government, and the republican party clearly doesn't any more.


4 posted on 07/04/2004 8:27:34 AM PDT by snopercod (The politicians make the weather then say "$hit, it's raining"!)
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To: Mikey
Yeah, but he would do well to read up on the scope of government prior to the New Deal. before saying: "Limited government" has yet to be defined.
8 posted on 07/04/2004 8:46:46 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: Mikey

LOL, I'm glad you didn't put this under "Breaking News".


10 posted on 07/04/2004 8:48:49 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Mikey

I might even be willing to stomach big government if it was CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT!!!!


11 posted on 07/04/2004 8:54:07 AM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: Mikey

BTTT


12 posted on 07/04/2004 8:54:28 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Mikey

Limited Government, in concept, has been set aside ever since the Civil War.

There are some obvious limits to government, but apparently we just haven't reached them yet, or circumstances have not occurred that have led the electorate to express them.

When limits are again put on Government, if they ever are, it will be a traumatic event that will once again define our nation.


13 posted on 07/04/2004 9:20:16 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Mikey
Limited Government is about far more than simply limiting taxes. Indeed, limiting taxes--which is certainly important--is really another subject, and should not be confused with the concept of restricting the exercise of Governmental powers to those envisioned in an original compact which is the source of Government itself. (See the Declaration Of Independence, for a clear annunciation of the basic American theory of Governemnt. The document needs to be read in context, not quoted out of context.)

Merely limiting taxes does not prevent excessive Government. The Bush Administration has succeeded in limiting taxes--at least for the moment--but is totally out of control, both on extending Government and in squandering money.

Nor should our past failures dissuade us from future efforts. The oaths that we take--at various times in our lives to uphold the Constitution--do not contain an escape clause which gives us the out to say it is just too hard too do. Those of us who have pledged to Almighty God that we will uphold the Constitution have acknowledged a duty that does not dissolve because this generation of political mountebanks do not choose to listen, nor obey their own oaths.

William Flax

14 posted on 07/04/2004 9:36:37 AM PDT by Ohioan
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When I entered County public office, one of the first things I did was head to the building dept. to ask for a review of ordinances to see if we could pare down regulations. I found out we have no local ordinances. We implement the minimum State codes.

Our County has some serious poverty and health issues. (Almost 54% of total population in low income households (below 200% of FPL. 39% of low-income parents living with food insecurity. Mental Health/Alcohol & Drug at 40 per thousand population.)

I was instrumental in establishing a network of nonprofit family resource centers to shift assistance from government to the community. We have all these retirees, surely they could volunteer. Nope, they have raised their kids, worked their jobs and want to be left alone. Funding for rural social non-profits - very little, foundations want more population impact for their buck.

How does one match social policy with moral beliefs? Do we get used to the fact that some people will live in luxury and some in poverty and illness and write it off as fate like third world countries? Do we drag everyone down to the median level to take care of everyones needs like socialists where there is no excellence? Or do we try and mix something in between?

What is scary is that the biggest employer in most rural counties is government. Union government employees become a large voting block.


21 posted on 07/04/2004 11:00:36 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: Mikey
Limited government is dead: until the current bloated socialistic/fascist system collapses of its own dead and insupportable weight.

IMHO the primary effort should not be on taxes (although important) but in getting rid of 'activist' judges. If the 9th and 10th amendments were enforced as written, probably one-half of everything the federal government does would be declared unconstitutional.

--Boris

22 posted on 07/04/2004 11:02:36 AM PDT by boris (The deadliest weapon of mass destruction in history is a Leftist with a word processor)
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To: Mikey
There are at least two reasons why this term is dead.

There are two reasons. However, the two reasons were not directly included in the article.

The two reasons are the 16th and 17th Amendments to the Constitution. These two amendments, combined with human nature, virtually insured the failure of the framers of the Constitution’s vision of a free people and a limited central government.

The 16th Amendment gave the government the power that history had warned against and that the original constitution forbid; the power to directly tax the citizen.

The 17th Amendment caused both houses of congress to become directly beholding to the voters.

A review of the effect these two Amendments had on the nation reveals why the vision of a limited government failed. A few basic facts regarding the creation of the Constitution are required.

First Fact: We the People established a Constitution to define the creation of a government.

The Preamble to the Constitution
“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

Second Fact: Congress was only granted specific enumerated powers.

Article I Section 1 of the Constitution
All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

Consider:
We the people had fought a revolutionary war. We the people were not in the frame of mind to establish a central government with unlimited powers over we the people. To that end, we the people established a government with only specific enumerated powers. Those powers “herein granted” are the only powers granted government. If the Constitution does not specifically grant a power then the power does not exist.

Third Fact: Members of The House of Representatives are elected by the people.

Article 1 Section 2 of the Constitution
The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States

Consider:
The reason the members of the House of Representatives are elected by the people is because they represent the people. It was intended that the members of House of Representatives be beholding to the people for their votes.

Fourth Fact: Members of the Senate are elected by the state legislatures.

Article 1 Section 3 of the Constitution
The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature thereof, for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote.
Note: modified by Amendment XVII
The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof

Consider:
The reason the members of the Senate were elected by the state legislatures is because the Senators represent the state, not the people. It was intended that the members of the Senate be beholding to the state legislature for their votes and not the people.

Fifth Fact: The government did not have the power to directly tax the citizen unless in proportion to the nation’s population.

Article 1 Section 9 of the Constitution
No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken.
Note: modified by Amendment XVI
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

Consider: If the government were contemplating an expense of $100 million and the population were 100 million then each state would tax its citizens $1 each.

Our Constitution now grants the federal government the unlimited power to directly tax the citizens and the Constitution now requires that all those seeking election must appeal directly to the people for their votes. I don’t want to connect dots that you do not see connected so let me close with these quotes for your consideration.

"The Roman Republic fell, not because of the ambition of Caesar or Augustus, but because it had already long ceased to be in any real sense a republic at all. When the sturdy Roman plebeian, who lived by his own labor, who voted without reward according to his own convictions, and who with his fellows formed in war the terrible Roman legion, had been changed into an idle creature who craved nothing in life save the gratification of a thirst for vapid excitement, who was fed by the state, and who directly or indirectly sold his vote to the highest bidder, then the end of the Republic was at hand, and nothing could save it. The laws were the same as they had been, but the people behind the laws had changed, and so the laws counted for nothing."

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

"Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government, those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny."

26 posted on 07/04/2004 11:20:51 AM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: Mikey
Why get your panties in a bunch over something you can't control ?

Besides, Al Qaeda is probably targeting the Federal Triangle as we speak. With the bonus that after their first nuke goes off, there will be a bounty on all Muslims.


BUMP

31 posted on 07/04/2004 12:56:10 PM PDT by tm22721 (In fac they)
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Your right young man and their are movements about getting rid of the income tax and stopping the flow of money into the federal government to supply the socialists programs and the need to get past.


36 posted on 07/04/2004 2:58:24 PM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270 My vote goes for President Bush because he is a great leader and a good man.)
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To: Mikey

Also we need more young people like this who want LIBERTY and FREEDOM. Limited government is not dead because we won't let it be. People need to start understanding that we are the government and the elected ones are supposed to do what we say. We are the government they are just elected to conduct the business and if we just let them do what they want we have no one to blame but ourselves!


37 posted on 07/04/2004 3:06:23 PM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270 My vote goes for President Bush because he is a great leader and a good man.)
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