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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread TWELVE
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Posted on 07/02/2004 10:22:06 AM PDT by JustPiper

Picture credit: TheCabal

"I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat"

LINK TO THREAD ELEVEN

FBI urges vigilance for July 4

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A constant stream of intelligence indicating that al Qaeda wants to strike the United States this summer or fall has led federal officials to urge increased vigilance during the Independence Day weekend, but there is no specific threat of an attack timed to the holiday.

We are the "Stotters" who make ourselves aware of the enemy who wishes to do us harm

Meet It!
Greet It!
Defeat It!


(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: infogathering; threatmatrix; wot
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To: null and void
Until a US born møøselimb engineer co-worker complained when I put up a US Flag and a sign that said "God Bless America" in my cubicle.

I'm curious. What screed did he rant as justification for his complaint?

3,001 posted on 07/08/2004 6:40:36 PM PDT by Oorang ( Those who trade liberty for security have neither)
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To: cibco

Her website is www.therothshow.com


3,002 posted on 07/08/2004 6:46:20 PM PDT by StillProud2BeFree
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To: null and void

Never mind :-) I'm catching up and saw your response in post # 2733. Thanks. Return to normal freeping.


3,003 posted on 07/08/2004 6:47:00 PM PDT by Oorang ( Those who trade liberty for security have neither)
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To: Honestly; Sean Osborne Lomax
Thank you for the links.

Diamonds for OBL, does not surprise me at all.

I wish that Sean still checked in, would love to have his opinion on the bank run in Russia.

It appears that it isn't the first one.

The fine communist way, " if we want what you have, we will take it".

This time it is half the banks and an oil company, or so it appears.
3,004 posted on 07/08/2004 6:47:10 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (A Google search for: communist manifesto 1963 & muslim manifesto 1990, Will show todays laws in them)
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To: StillProud2BeFree

Thank you.


3,005 posted on 07/08/2004 6:48:03 PM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi... Saddam)
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To: StillProud2BeFree

Catching my breath bookmark!


3,006 posted on 07/08/2004 6:50:10 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Revel

I actually tried to goto the C&NV board (using Firefox, not IE to save my PC if there were any Active-X nasties there), and there isn't any content aside from one post - not related to EOM.

Sooooo, if this EOM post WAS there - it's been removed.

Of course, "EOM" has made empty threats for 3 years now. My hunch is this time won't be any different. (Actually, I think we're dealing with the knockoffs at this point as there is no way to verify if it really is "EOM" posting or not).

With that said, I've had a certain feeling of "uneasyness" since sometime yesterday..something doesn't quite feel "right" to me, FWIW.

My best guess on the next attack is one on the energy sector - to cripple the economy further. Possible attacks on reactors, oil supply, etc. Possible WMD with bio (anthrax and/or ricin) & suitcase nuclear weapons - IF the rumors are true and they have at least one or two..or, even worse - some old, Rusky warheads smuggled out of Soviet bloc countries.


3,007 posted on 07/08/2004 6:53:00 PM PDT by jstolzen (All it takes for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke)
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To: Domestic Church

AP: Iraq Insurgency Larger Than Thought
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BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - The Iraq insurgency is far larger than the 5,000 guerrillas previously thought to be at its core, U.S. military officials say, and it's being led by well-armed Iraqi Sunnis angry at being pushed from power alongside Saddam Hussein.

Although U.S. military analysts disagree over the exact size, dozens of regional cells, often led by tribal sheiks and inspired by Sunni Muslim imams, can call upon part-time fighters to boost forces to as high as 20,000 - an estimate reflected in the insurgency's continued strength after U.S. forces killed as many as 4,000 in April alone.

And some insurgents are highly specialized - one Baghdad cell, for instance, has two leaders, one assassin, and two groups of bomb-makers.

The developing intelligence picture of the insurgency contrasts with the commonly stated view in the Bush administration that the fighting is fueled by foreign warriors intent on creating an Islamic state.

"We're not at the forefront of a jihadist war here," said a U.S. military official in Baghdad, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The official and others told The Associated Press the guerrillas have enough popular support among nationalist Iraqis angered by the presence of U.S. troops that they cannot be militarily defeated.

The military official, who has logged thousands of miles driving around Iraq to meet with insurgents or their representatives, said a skillful Iraqi government could co-opt some of the guerrillas and reconcile with the leaders instead of fighting them.

"I generally like a lot of these guys," he said. "We know who the key people are in all the different cities, and generally how they operate. The problem is getting actionable information so you can either attack them, arrest them or engage them."

Even as Iraqi leaders wrangle over the contentious issue of offering a broad amnesty to guerrilla fighters, the new Iraqi military and intelligence corps have begun gathering and sharing information on the insurgents with the U.S. military, providing a sharper picture of a complex insurgency.

"Nobody knows about Iraqis and all the subtleties in culture, appearance, religion and so forth better than Iraqis themselves," said U.S. Army Lt. Col. Daniel Baggio, a military spokesman at Multinational Corps headquarters in Baghdad. "We're very optimistic about the Iraqis' use of their own human intelligence to help root out these insurgents."

The intelligence boost has allowed American pilots to bomb suspected insurgent safe houses over the past two weeks, with Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi saying Iraqis supplied information for at least one of those airstrikes. But the better view of the insurgency also contradicts much of the popular wisdom about it.

Estimates of the insurgents' manpower tend to be too low. Last week, a former coalition official said 4,000 to 5,000 Baathists form the core of the insurgency, with other attacks committed by a couple hundred supporters of Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and hundreds of other foreign fighters.

Anthony Cordesman, an Iraq analyst with the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said the figure of 5,000 insurgents "was never more than a wag and is now clearly ridiculous."

"Part-timers are difficult to count, but almost all insurgent movements depend on cadres that are part-time and that can blend back into the population," he said.

U.S. military analysts disagree over the size of the insurgency, with estimates running as high as 20,000 fighters when part-timers are added.

Ahmed Hashim, a professor at the U.S. Naval War College, said the higher numbers squared with his findings in a study of the insurgency completed in Iraq.

One hint that the number is larger is the sheer volume of suspected insurgents - 22,000 - who have cycled through U.S.-run prisons. Most have been released. And in April alone, U.S. forces killed as many as 4,000 people, the military official said, including Sunni insurgents and Shiite militiamen fighting under the banner of a radical cleric.

There has been no letup in attacks. On Thursday, insurgents detonated a car bomb and then attacked a military headquarters in Samarra, a center of resistance 60 miles north of the capital, killing five U.S. soldiers and one Iraqi guardsman.

Guerrilla leaders come from various corners of Saddam's Baath Party, including lawyers' groups, prominent families and especially from his Military Bureau, an internal security arm used to purge enemies. They've formed dozens of cells.

U.S. military documents obtained by AP show a guerrilla band mounting attacks in Baghdad that consists of two leaders, four sub-leaders and 30 members, broken down by activity. There is a pair of financiers, two cells of car bomb-builders, an assassin, separate teams launching mortar and rocket attacks, and others handling roadside bombs and ambushes.

Most of the insurgents are fighting for a bigger role in a secular society, not a Taliban-like Islamic state, the military official said. Almost all the guerrillas are Iraqis, even those launching some of the devastating car bombings normally blamed on foreigners - usually al-Zarqawi.

The official said many car bombings bore the "tradecraft" of Saddam's former secret police and were aimed at intimidating Iraq's new security services.

Many in the U.S. intelligence community have been making similar points, but have encountered political opposition from the Bush administration, a State Department official in Washington said, also speaking on condition of anonymity.

Civilian analysts generally agreed, saying U.S. and Iraqi officials have long overemphasized the roles of foreign fighters and Muslim extremists.

Such positions support the Bush administration's view that the insurgency is linked to the war on terror. A closer examination paints most insurgents as secular Iraqis angry at the presence of U.S. and other foreign troops.

"Too much U.S. analysis is fixated on terms like 'jihadist,' just as it almost mindlessly tries to tie everything to (Osama) bin Laden," Cordesman said. "Every public opinion poll in Iraq ... supports the nationalist character of what is happening."

Many guerrillas are motivated by Islam in the same way religion motivates American soldiers, who also tend to pray more when they're at war, the U.S. military official said.

He said he met Tuesday with four tribal sheiks from Ramadi who "made very clear" that they had no desire for an Islamic state, even though mosques are used as insurgent sanctuaries and funding centers.

"'We're not a bunch of Talibans,'" he paraphrased the sheiks as saying.

At the orders of Gen. John Abizaid, the U.S. commander of Mideast operations, Army analysts looked closely for evidence that Iraq's insurgency was adopting extreme Islamist goals, the official said. Analysts learned that ridding Iraq of U.S. troops was the motivator for most insurgents, not the formation of an Islamic state.

The officer said Iraq's insurgents have a big advantage over guerrillas elsewhere: plenty of arms, money, and training. Iraq's lack of a national identity card system - and guerrillas' refusal to plan attacks by easily intercepted telephone calls - makes them difficult to track.

"They have learned a great deal over the last year, and with far more continuity than the rotating U.S. forces and Iraqi security forces," Cordesman said of the guerrillas. "They have learned to react very quickly and in ways our sensors and standard tactics cannot easily deal with."
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040708/D83MSLSG2.html


3,008 posted on 07/08/2004 6:53:16 PM PDT by Revel
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To: StillProud2BeFree; JustPiper

Jayna Davis is actually on that thread now, answering questions re: OKC from anyone who wants to ask her something, the link is in the post at 2801 that Justpiper posted.

Post your question in red, so she can spot it easily.


3,009 posted on 07/08/2004 6:53:35 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: All

***THIS IS INTERESTING***

From the Jerusalem Post:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/Printer&cid=1089257372435&p=1078113566627

Tom Ridge cancels Israel visit


Janine Zacharia Jul. 8, 2004

US Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge has cancelled a visit to Israel that had been scheduled to take place early next week.

The cancellation came as Ridge on Wednesday warned that there is credible evidence al-Qaida may be trying to mount an attack on the US homeland ahead of the November presidential election.

Ridge had been scheduled to meet with Prime Minister Sharon and other senior Israeli officials and members of the business community.

"Obviously in Israel we understand he has obligations here," said Mark Regev, spokesman for the Israeli embassy in Washington.

Watch what they do, not what they say.

Any thoughts???


3,010 posted on 07/08/2004 6:55:44 PM PDT by Mossad1967
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To: JustPiper; StillProud2BeFree
Oops, Justpiper posted that link in 2889.

Here's the link

***(Thurs 7-8) ASK JAYNA DAVIS QUESTIONS ABOUT HER BOOK -- "THE THIRD TERRORIST"***

3,011 posted on 07/08/2004 6:55:48 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: nw_arizona_granny

I'm not sure how this relates to the run on Russian banks, or if it poses a threat, but if anyone knows, please explain:

Gold and currency reserves hit record high

RBC, 08.07.2004, Moscow 14:01:54.The gold and currency reserves of the Russian Central Bank amounted to $88.3bn as of July 2, 2004. Thus, the gold and currency reserves grew $400m over the past five business days. The gold and currency reserves of the Russian Central Bank show an increase for a seventh straight week. Over these seven weeks, the reserves added $5.6bn. The reason for the higher pace of growth in the gold and currency reserves of the Russian Central Bank is the Central Banks' buying dollars on the domestic market. The Russian Central Bank buys dollars not only on the MICEX exchange but directly from first-tier banks which serve exporters.

Thus, the gold and currency reserves of the Russian Central Bank have hit their record high since the Central Bank began keeping records of its reserves. However, this record high is $300m higher than the level of February 13, 2004. The gold and currency reserves have come closer to the February level.
http://www.rbcnews.com/free/20040708140154.shtml


3,012 posted on 07/08/2004 7:02:10 PM PDT by Honestly (There is nothing so likely to produce peace as to be well prepared to meet the enemy.)
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To: Mossad1967

Another sign that something is really up.


3,013 posted on 07/08/2004 7:05:15 PM PDT by Revel
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To: jstolzen

The noise level is up or the buzz is in the air. It's almost like static but you can't really ear it but you do.


3,014 posted on 07/08/2004 7:06:37 PM PDT by mindspy
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To: Revel

Visits with heads of states are not cancelled without a reason.

Something really bad is in the air.

REALLY BAD!!!


3,015 posted on 07/08/2004 7:09:10 PM PDT by Mossad1967
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To: mindspy

The forums are strange too.


3,016 posted on 07/08/2004 7:11:34 PM PDT by StillProud2BeFree
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To: Indie

Hey Indie. It's really good to hear from you. I've missed your input. Hope you are doing well.


3,017 posted on 07/08/2004 7:14:16 PM PDT by Oorang ( Those who trade liberty for security have neither)
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To: StillProud2BeFree

This feels like last winter all over again.

Our only hope is that they are thwarted.

They are coming for us, and soon.


3,018 posted on 07/08/2004 7:14:39 PM PDT by Mossad1967
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To: StillProud2BeFree

When are you going to be on? I am listening to Roth now...


3,019 posted on 07/08/2004 7:17:10 PM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi... Saddam)
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To: StillProud2BeFree

I agree and old ones down and new ones popping up, and...


3,020 posted on 07/08/2004 7:18:22 PM PDT by Cindy
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