I got flamed, fried, and dyed for saying the same thing a couple of years back on this forum. Leading with the drug issue is akin to a boxer leading with his chin. In other words, you're gonna get knocked out.
$710.96.. The price of freedom.
Posted on 06/20/2004 6:55:30 AM PDT by Undertow
Losertarians are worse than the French.
It's a two-man race this year. I've voted for liberatrian presidential candidates in the past, but will definitely be voting for Bush.
Boortz had an article on Townhall earlier this week that was dead-on.
Until the Libertarians get off this legalize marijuana crusade, they will never be going anywhere. He said their biggest mistake was that the marijuana issue was always the first one they would talk about to potential voters, and it would immediately turn them off.
If they would focus their party around no federal taxes, personal liberty, private land ownership, etc.. they could make great inroads and become a minor player in U.S. politics. But it's just Marijuana, Marijuana, Marijuana, whenever these guys get any speaking time.
They are not just losers. These people are pathetic losers.
Some days I thank the Almighty that Liberals are around just so I don't have to listen Libert. bitch and moan about EVERYTHING under the sun.
A vote for anyone but Bush is a vote for Kerry and the end of our Republic. Those dunderheads are worse than Dims.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/nealboortz/nb20040618.shtml
There's the article I was referring to.
I'm a registered member of the LP but I see myself voting for Bush this year. I guess I'm swinging more towards the Boortz wing instead of the Screwey Lewey Rockwell wing.
Let's see... Bush or Kerry... Bush or Kerry... it's so hard to decide...
_NOT!_
That should tell you what their driving issue in life is.
Great article! The part about being driven from the LP because of an "unpure" thought is so true! It may be the only political party in America that organizes a protest against one of their own at their own convention!
I thought it was all about the "Libertines"!
It's not quite that simple. If you are in a so called battleground state, it probably is the case. But if you are in a state that is a sure thing for either major candidate, say Massachusetts or Texas, then a vote for a 3rd party candidate is safely sending a message. That's all courtesy of the Electoral College.
I got flamed, fried, and dyed for saying the same thing a couple of years back on this forum. Leading with the drug issue is akin to a boxer leading with his chin. In other words, you're gonna get knocked out.
$710.96.. The price of freedom.
I'm a non-voting small-l libertarian. The issue at the top of my list is repealing the 16th amendment, thus abolishing all slave income tax law. Guns are next, and I am looking forward to the sunset of the AWB. Third is not just pot, but to decriminalize *all* drugs from heroin to asthma medicine, both street drugs and physician-prescribed drugs; adult humans have a natural right to ingest whatever substance they choose.
Libertarians seem to be mostly ex-democrats.. If you had any sense you would'nt be a democrat, SO, after noticeing that socialism is a childish ideology but still reeling from democrat propaganda redux some become libertarians, others become curmudeons even dumber than Andy Rooney.. The smartest ones become neocons. Thats why the republican party is going south. Liberalism is indeed a mental disorder, a mental social disease, a political pariah. The cure ?... there is'nt one.. Ignorance is cureable but stupidity is not.
When they stray from Topic One, it's even worse.
For example, Badnarik on Hitler, as compared to Lincoln and Roosevelt. Or Aaron Russo’s “four pillars of Fascism ... Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Ashcroft.”
While you are correct about it being "safe" to vote for a 3rd party candidate as a protes from the standpoint of who will be in the office of the President. Still, you overlook the damage that can be done if the media starts saying "Well, Bush won the electoral college again, but he has to deal with the Democrats and Kerry because Kerry won the popular vote."
As much as I hate to say it, it's probably better to get as many Democrats out of office first, then once the Deocrat party is in ruin, run Libertarians or Constitution Party candidates as the alternative to the Republicans. At this point, anything that weakens the Republicans strengthens the Democrats, and that's really bad for the country.
The "non-voting" part is hard to understand. Do you really not care whether Kerry or Bush is elected?
adult humans have a natural right to ingest whatever substance they choose.
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The problem is, some of these "substances" affect other people.
I have no problem with 19-year old Slick Rick getting hammered and stoned every night in his parents basement with an endless supply of alcohol and marijuana. I do have a problem with drunken-stoned Ricky comes outside and gets in a car, or comes near my child. Because now, because of his irresponsibility, his "substances" are now having an effect on my life.
The question is, how do we deal with this problem?
A) Arrest them, put them in jail or rehab center
B) Legalize it, so they can do it as they freely. Create "volunteer" rehab centers where they can get help (HA!).
Republicans answer A.
Libertarians answer B.
If these people want to live "Freely" like they say they do, here is what I propose. Take a dump liberal state, say Vermont, Barb-wire it off, instead of sending them to jail, send them to Vermont, and let them live in anarchy away from the rest of society. Let them grow their own fruits, vegetables, and "herbal" medicines, hunt their own animals, build their own shelters, and live as the "Libertarians" they want to be. Nobody from the US Federal Government will never bother them again.
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