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Madonna Changing her name to Esther (Please don't make fun of her)
Glenn Beck Program ^ | 06/18/2004 | Glenn Beck

Posted on 06/18/2004 6:50:49 AM PDT by King David

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To: Tall_Texan
Few things are more pathetic than a 40-year-old still crying out for attention and willing to do anything to get it.

Same thing could be said about these 50 year olds.

141 posted on 06/18/2004 9:20:08 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: evets
A beautiful woman without discretion is like a gold ring in the snout of a pig.

Note: reference the picture, not Madonster.

142 posted on 06/18/2004 9:22:58 AM PDT by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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To: King David

She's a total disgrace. She apparently decided to desecrate tefillin as well in a music video of all things.


143 posted on 06/18/2004 9:25:12 AM PDT by thoughtomator (I stepped in some Chirac the other day and still can't get the stink out of my shoes!)
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To: Badeye
Its the Fourth Estate's blatant LYING on all fronts.

and

didn't say all media members are liars, I said the media is LYING.

That sounds fairly all encompasing to me. If you have another explanation as to the meaning of that statetmant, I would be please to hear it.

Are you saying that the message is a lie and not the messengers?

144 posted on 06/18/2004 9:36:41 AM PDT by Military family member (Proud Pacers fan...still)
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To: Truth666
"There are three kinds of lies...

Plain lies...

Damn lies...

and Statistics"

--Mark Twain

145 posted on 06/18/2004 9:38:55 AM PDT by Military family member (Proud Pacers fan...still)
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To: latina4dubya
My Aunt's given name is "Crucifia Immacolata" ('m not making this up).

She was born in Sicily , and move to the U.S. when she was 1 or two.

What's more she knows three other Italian ladies of the same age with the same name.

The name translates as Crucifix of the Immaculate.

146 posted on 06/18/2004 9:44:47 AM PDT by Military family member (Proud Pacers fan...still)
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To: Military family member

"manufactured" is missing before statistics ...


147 posted on 06/18/2004 9:53:46 AM PDT by Truth666
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To: Military family member

Do you think yesterday's headlines "Commission finds no collaboration between Iraq and Al Queda" accurate?

Its a yes or no question.

Sorry, I watch the news, I watch the Whitehouse press corps, I watch the editor's that decide whats "front page" and whats "A-16 page".

From coast to coast yesterday, the mainstream media perpetrated a fraud on "We the People". While its not uncommon (Jayson Blair comes to mind, as does Howell Raines, the Boston Globe, the LA Times, etc etc etc) this was so blantant, so reprehensible, and so counter to what the fourth estate proclaims it stands for.....

I guess I should not be surprised a self proclaimed member of the media doesn't see this clearly.

The media is engaging in a massive fraud, and you want to split hairs? Knock yourself out. Its this kind of attitude from media types whenever their credibility is challenged that causes average Americans to rate reporters lower than lawyers and used car salesmen.


148 posted on 06/18/2004 9:58:33 AM PDT by Badeye ("The day you stop learning, is the day you begin dying")
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To: Baynative

Ever read an English newspaper?


149 posted on 06/18/2004 10:22:15 AM PDT by sharktrager (George Clooney has rubber nipples.)
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To: Truth666

Amazing, since that's what it shows in her high school yearbook, and all of her childhood friends say it has always been her real name, including the many who now don't like her.


150 posted on 06/18/2004 10:23:40 AM PDT by sharktrager (George Clooney has rubber nipples.)
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To: freddiedavis

No, she's already converted to a cult based on Judaism, that has no more relationship to REAL Judaism than those 60s Eastern Religion cults had to REAL Hinduism. Her Kabbalah religion is "Jewish" to the same extent that David Koresh's WACO followers were "Christian," although the Kabbalah-cult is certianly much less dangerous.


151 posted on 06/18/2004 10:34:09 AM PDT by ChicagoHebrew
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To: Badeye
Do you think yesterday's headlines "Commission finds no collaboration between Iraq and Al Queda" accurate?

Its a yes or no question.

Sorry, I watch the news, I watch the Whitehouse press corps, I watch the editor's that decide whats "front page" and whats "A-16 page".

From coast to coast yesterday, the mainstream media perpetrated a fraud on "We the People". While its not uncommon (Jayson Blair comes to mind, as does Howell Raines, the Boston Globe, the LA Times, etc etc etc) this was so blantant, so reprehensible, and so counter to what the fourth estate proclaims it stands for.....

I guess I should not be surprised a self proclaimed member of the media doesn't see this clearly.

That's more than a yes or no question.

Yes that is what the commission stated in its report. I saw that on Fox last night, and on other network news as well.

That makes it an accurrate statement.

Does that mean (and I believe this may be your real question or questions)...:

a)...the commission is correct?

b)...I believe the commission is correct?

The answer to both those questions is no. I believe the commission reached the wrong conclusion.

The point here is that the commission made that statement. If the newspaper repeats the statement in its headline, why is that wrong?

In fact, hereis the text of the report:

“Bin Ladin also explored possible cooperation with Iraq during his time in Sudan, despite his opposition to Hussein’s secular regime. Bin Ladin had in fact at one time sponsored anti-Saddam Islamists in Iraqi Kurdistan. The Sudanese, to protect their own ties with Iraq, reportedly persuaded Bin Ladin to cease this support and arranged for contacts between Iraq and al Qaeda. A senior Iraqi intelligence officer reportedly made three visits to Sudan, finally meeting with Bin Ladin in 1994. Bin Ladin is said to have requested space to establish training camps, as well as assistance in procuring weapons, but Iraq apparently never responded. There have been reports that contacts between Iraq and al Qaeda occurred after Bin Ladin had returned to Afghanistan, but they do not appear to have resulted in a collaborative relationship. Two senior Bin Ladin associates have adamantly denied that any ties existed between al Qaeda and Iraq. We have no credible evidence that Iraq and al Qaeda cooperated on attacks against the United States.

Whether Bin Ladin and his organization had roles in the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center and the thwarted Manila plot to blow up a dozen U.S. Commercial aircraft in 1995 remains a matter of substantial uncertainty.” --Staff Statement No. 15, Delivered 9 a.m. June 16, 2004 at the Twelfth public hearing of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (Page 5 of the text).

Did the commission make that statement? Yes

Is the headline accurate? Yes.

It sound to me like you are upset with the message, not the messenger. It also sounds like you are the sort of individual who assumes that anything spoken or written by the media that does not match your personal view of the world is a lie.

I disagree with that statement, but I am directing my angry toward the commission that made the statement, not the reporter or newspaper that printed it.

Furthermore, I didn't write that headline; therefore, when you take your anger out on all the media for the work of one individual (whom I have showed told the truth), you are essentially guilty of the same crime of which you are accusing the media--lying.

152 posted on 06/18/2004 10:48:38 AM PDT by Military family member (Proud Pacers fan...still)
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To: mhking

Elizabeth! I'm coming to join you, honey! Everyone down here is turning into Esther! If I stay here I'm going be all alone with no one left but ugly women and a big dummy!


154 posted on 06/18/2004 10:49:09 AM PDT by Fedora (Smeagol-Gollum 2004: "We can be our own VP, my Precious")
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To: Truth666
Not according to Twain.

STATISTICS

Figures often beguile me, particularly when I have the arranging of them myself; in which case the remark attributed to Disraeli would often apply with justice and force: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."

- Autobiography of Mark Twain

Twain nevers used the word manufactured.

155 posted on 06/18/2004 10:54:01 AM PDT by Military family member (Proud Pacers fan...still)
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To: Military family member

You have demonstrated exactly why the public detests the media now more than at any point in history.

I greatly appreciate it, although I know it wasn't your intent.

Have a nice day......


156 posted on 06/18/2004 11:04:41 AM PDT by Badeye ("The day you stop learning, is the day you begin dying")
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To: Baynative

"'Whiney' just rolled her eyes in disgust, because that's what liberals do when they run out of snotty come backs."

Liberals are spoiled children that were never forced to grow up.


157 posted on 06/18/2004 11:05:44 AM PDT by Badeye ("The day you stop learning, is the day you begin dying")
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To: Badeye
I'm sure the "public" doesn't appreciate being lumped into a group any more than you do.

Thank you, for proving my point .

158 posted on 06/18/2004 11:10:47 AM PDT by Military family member (Proud Pacers fan...still)
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To: King David

Why not Ruth?


159 posted on 06/18/2004 11:13:10 AM PDT by Old Professer (lust; pure, visceral groin-grinding, sweat-popping, heart-pounding staccato bursts of shooting stars)
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To: Military family member

"I'm sure the "public" doesn't appreciate being lumped into a group any more than you do.
Thank you, for proving my point ."

Riiiight. Denial isn't a river for you media types, its the only way to survive day to day.

"We the People" by definiton are lumped together, despite the ongoing war on accuracy being perpetrated by the mainstream media.

Sorry, cable and the internet are the crack of doom for your profession, if it can still be called that at this point.


160 posted on 06/18/2004 11:15:26 AM PDT by Badeye ("The day you stop learning, is the day you begin dying")
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