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Missile kills Pakistan tribal head
CNN ^ | Friday, June 18 | Syed Mohsin Naqvi

Posted on 06/17/2004 11:16:30 PM PDT by AdmSmith

ISLAMABAD (CNN) -- A tribal leader accused of harboring Al Qaeda militants in Pakistan's western border region was killed Thursday night in a targeted missile strike, according to Pakistan intelligence sources. The Associated Press quoted an army spokesman Friday as identifying the tribal leader as Nek Mohammed, a former Taliban fighter.

He was killed late Thursday at the home of another tribal chief, the spokesman said.

"We were tracking him down and he was killed last night by our hand," Maj. Gen. Shaukat Sultan told The Associated Press.

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To: AdmSmith

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L23127042.htm
Pakistan says kills militants as Karzai visits
23 Aug 2004 16:41:24 GMT

Source: Reuters
By David Brunnstrom

ISLAMABAD, Aug 23 (Reuters) - Pakistan said its forces killed four foreign militants in a border area on Monday as Afghan President Hamid Karzai visited to discuss the battle against Islamic guerrillas before his October re-election bid.

Before Karzai and his counterpart President Pervez Musharraf held talks on Monday evening, a provincial official identified the foreigners killed in a raid in the semi-autonomous North Waziristan tribal region bordering Afghanistan as Uzbeks.

The military said it also captured one foreigner and a Pakistani in the raid near the town of Miranshah. It coincided with a big assault on the other side of the border by U.S. helicopter gunships and hundreds of Afghan and U.S.-led troops.

The provincial official, who asked not to be named, said all the foreigners were Uzbeks and were thought to have been among a large group of al Qaeda-linked militants pursued since March in neighbouring South Waziristan.

Karzai's two-day visit comes less than two months before his October 9 re-election bid and he will be looking for Pakistan's assurances that it will do all it can to prevent infiltration by militants bent on disrupting the vote.

Pakistan's official APP news agency said Karzai and Musharraf reiterated their common commitment to fighting terrorism and enhancing bilateral ties. It gave no more details.

While the United States and Afghanistan have praised Pakistan's efforts against al Qaeda suspects, they say Taliban militants have continued to find sanctuary in Pakistan and launch attacks across the border.

VOTER REGISTRATION

In Islamabad, Karzai will also want to discuss the electoral registration of up to one million Afghan refugees in Pakistan.

An agreement to register the refugees was reached only in July -- too late to enable registration of all the estimated total of between 1.5 and three million in Pakistan.

"The trip is aimed at consolidating ties," an official of Karzai's office said. "We have common views with our Pakistani brothers about the campaign against terrorism."

Security for Karzai's visit will be extremely tight, given that he and Musharraf are prime targets for Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network and its militant allies and have both narrowly survived assassination attempts in the past two years.

Back home, problems loomed for Karzai as 12 of his main rivals in the elections said they would consider withdrawing from the contest unless Karzai resigned by Wednesday.

The group led by Yunus Qanuni, regarded as strongest of 17 candidates challenging Karzai, argue that Karzai holds an unfair advantage as an incumbent and believe he is favoured by the international community because he has U.S. backing.

Karzai's visit came after Pakistan said it had foiled a plot by al Qaeda suspects to kill hundreds of people on the eve of Pakistani independence day earlier this month.

Pakistan is expected to press Karzai for the release of more Pakistanis held in Afghanistan since fighting alongside the Taliban regime overthrown by U.S.-led forces in late 2001.


841 posted on 08/23/2004 10:39:45 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: AdmSmith

Here are more details on the catch
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_24-8-2004_pg1_2

Army commandos launch operation against militants

Taliban chased into Pakistan by US helicopters
Four foreign fighters killed, two captured
3 soldiers injured

By Hayatullah Khan

MIR ALI: Helicopters dropped Pakistani commandos into North Waziristan on Monday, to launch an operation near the Afghan border against suspected Taliban forces that were chased into Pakistan by US helicopters after they attacked coalition forces in Khost.

An Inter-Services Public Relations statement claimed the operation was successful and four foreign militants were killed. "We think a few more were killed though their bodies could not be found," said a military spokesman. Two men were arrested, of whom one is a foreigner. The nationalities of the foreigners were not disclosed, but a government official who asked not to be named said the foreigners were all from Uzbekistan. He said the men were thought to have been among a large group of militants pursued by the military since March in neighbouring South Waziristan.

Acting on "credible information" about the presence of militants in an area 18 kilometres north of Miranshah, security forces raided the hideout and destroyed it successfully, the statement said. It added that "a large number of light machine guns, rocket-launchers and Klashnikovs" were seized, along with a large cache of ammunition.

Military spokesman Major General Shaukat Sultan said the raid was part of an operation continuing in the northwestern tribal region since June to hunt down Al Qaeda-linked militants. Pakistan says it has detained dozens of militants since the capture last month of an Al Qaeda computer expert, Mohammad Naeem Noor Khan, revealed vital intelligence about Al Qaeda operatives.

Afghan sources from Khost told Daily Times that the Taliban attacked US forces in Shankai, northeast of Khost in Afghanistan. The attack, which took place at 6.00am, "killed five American military personnel and destroyed their vehicles". "US forces were inspecting the area to set up a check-post, when the Taliban ambushed them," said the sources. "The Taliban engaged them for two hours. Later, air cover was called in and the attackers' positions were bombed."

Officials in Miranshah, agency headquarters of North Waziristan, said the army commandos were dropped in the Dhanghi Kach border area where the US drone spotted two pick-up jeeps, suspected of transporting Taliban. "The Pakistani commandos were parachuted into the area at 8.15am in two Black Hawk and 17 other helicopters and they launched an operation against suspected Taliban inside Pakistan."

Intelligence sources said a Mandhikhel tribesman's house was attacked when US helicopters chased the suspected Taliban fighters. One tribesman was killed in the US bombardment and three were wounded. Security agencies also confirmed the incident. They said three Pakistani commandos were also injured in the operation and airlifted to Combined Military Hospital in Bannu for medical treatment.

Daily Times sources in Mir Ali said around 400 militants left South Waziristan Agency to escape the military operation and joined the Taliban forces under Mulla Mohammad Akhund.

Agencies add: Hundreds of Pakistani troops took up positions in two northwestern towns bordering Afghanistan amid reports of an offensive by Afghan forces, officials said.

Pakistani officials in North Waziristan said Pakistan Army and Frontier Constabulary troops were blocking the border in tandem with Afghan forces that were mounting an offensive on their side. "An operation is underway on the Afghan side. The troops have been deployed on the Pakistani side to arrest suspects fleeing the operation," a local official said. Gunship helicopters were seen ferrying troops to Hasal Khel and Bangi Dar towns, just three kilometres from the Afghan border. Residents of villages along the border reported hearing gunfire and the roar of warplanes from the Afghan side.

Elsewhere, unknown assailants gunned down a leading tribal elder, Sardar Malik Muhammad Nawaz Abdullah, when he was passing through Tank Bazaar near Spain Mosque on Monday.


842 posted on 08/23/2004 4:42:44 PM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: jeffers; Dog; nuconvert; Cap Huff; Boot Hill; POA2; Coop
The catch was a piracha or was it a piranha? http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_24-8-2004_pg3_1

EDITORIAL: Kohat, Hangu and Al Qaeda

The intelligence agencies have confounded a big terrorist plot to blow up a number of key places in and around Islamabad (Presidency, PM House, GHQ, US embassy, parliament, etc.) on Independence Day. The government says that nine foreign and local Al Qaeda terrorists were arrested on Saturday August 21, and a large cache of weapons was unearthed. The police went after the fiery-tongued khateeb of Islamabad's Lal Masjid, Maulana Abdur Rasheed Ghazi, whose car was supposed to have been used for transporting the material to some place on Peshawar Road. While President Pervez Musharraf thought that the mastermind behind attempts to kill him was a Libyan, the foreigners in this case have turned out to be Egyptians.

The interior minister, Faisal Saleh Hayat, and the information minister, Sheikh Rashid, have both named an ex-MNA Javed Ibrahim Piracha of Kohat as the key actor in the latest conspiracy. The car used for the transport of weapons and explosives belonged to the khateeb but he had lent it to a man sent to him by Mr Piracha. The detained khateeb has given a written statement that his car was used on the recommendation of Mr Piracha. The man who took the car was one Usman who has been arrested by the agencies. The khateeb claimed that he gave his car because Mr Piracha was an old friend of his father's and had been sending seminarian boys and girls to his madrassa.

After having named Javed Ibrahim Piracha, the government has not gone on to arrest him in Kohat. When approached by the press, Mr Piracha lashed out at the two ministers, saying that he was being targeted because he was legally defending the scores of Arab and other mujahideen who fled to the NWFP after the 2001 tragedy of Tora Bora. He said he had 20 writ petitions pending at the Peshawar High Court in their defence and had been able to get scores of mujahideen released and sent back to their countries. According to him, 37 Al Qaeda-related cases had been registered against him too but he had come out of the courts scot-free as there had been no credible evidence against him. He said the Lal Masjid cleric was the son of a shaheed (killed how?) friend.

Those who have seen Mr Piracha on TV have a measure of how aggressive he can be in his language. His sectarianism has never been hidden from anyone in the Miranzai corridor that joins Kohat and Hangu to the more explosively sectarian Kurram Agency. He stated in Kohat that since he was a member of the overtly sectarian Sunni Supreme Council, and interior minister Faisal Saleh Hayat was a Shia, he could understand why he was being victimised. He did not however say why the information minister, Sheikh Rashid, had also said that he (Mr Piracha) had played a key role in the nearly successful terrorist attacks on Independence Day. The fact, however, is that Mr Piracha belongs to an area where sectarianism is strong and where there is near-total support for Al Qaeda. Only a week ago the city of Hangu was harassed by a weapons-bearing gang of people shouting pro-Al Qaeda slogans and challenging the local administration to face them. (The local administration chickened out.) The national press has called ex-MNA Piracha a member of the PMLN but the fact is that while he was given the PMLN ticket in the 2002 election - which he lost - he was supported by the banned Sipah Sahaba.

While the claim that he was let off by the courts doesn't say much about the lower judiciary in Pakistan, Mr Piracha’s own activities are quite public for all to see. He is the product of the 1988 high noon of sectarianism in Pakistan beginning with the massacre in Kurram Agency and the assault of Gilgit. He has been on the private TV channels clearly signalling his sectarian and pro-Al Qaeda bias because he knows that there is sympathy for him at least on his pro-mujahideen stance.

Last year, Mr Piracha narrated the story of the Kohat battle between Al Qaeda and Pakistani troops on a private TV channel. According to him, after 9/11, Bulgarian (sic!) and Chechnyan mujahideen fled from Afghanistan and came down to the Tribal Areas from where they came to Kohat, the city where 27 Arab mujahideen were already in jail. They were met by an intelligence agency officer ('hassaas idaray ka afsar') who assured them safe passage to Bannu, but when they approached the town they saw troops. Upon this, they shot the intelligence officer. After that the Flying Coach was subjected to a barrage of bullets and all of them were killed. The last beautiful youth who died said that he was going to Paradise. To the people of Kohat the entire surroundings smelled sweet with the perfume of the blood of the martyrs.

Kohat and Hangu are Al Qaeda cities. This is also Sipah Sahaba territory. Mr Piracha organised the construction of Shuhada-e-Islam Chowk in Kohat, devoted to the memory of the warriors that the world dubs as "terrorists". He was once a member of JUI but had a tiff with Maulana Fazlur Rehman. In 1997 he fought the election on a PMLN ticket and was returned as MNA. He remains a strong man in the region. His sectarian outreach extends to Hangu and Tal. His cocksureness emanates from the support he has among his people. But the question for us is this: how hard will he have to work to deny that he was involved in the planned act of terrorism on August 14?
843 posted on 08/23/2004 4:55:36 PM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: AdmSmith; Dog; Coop; nuconvert; Boot Hill; Redneck Texan; POA2; liz44040
Updates, for Khost border action and southeast flanks of Shawal Valley area:

The sources said that security forces had sealed off the area close to the Afghan border. There were no independent reports about casualties and the number of arrests. Witnesses said that eight helicopters appeared on Miramshah early in the morning and flew towards Bangi Dar and Hassankhel area of the Mirali tehsil.

They said the army helicopters were flying from Miramshah helipad and troops were seen heading towards the Afghan border till the filing of this report. The sources said that an extensive search operation had been started in Bangi Dar and Hassankhel* area inhabited by Gorbazkhel Wazir tribe.

Unofficial reports said that US-led allied forces had started action against Al Qaeda and Taliban suspects on Monday morning across the border and pounded suspected locations in Shankai, Dabgi* and Mandokhel areas. These reports suggested that jets and helicopters were taking part in the operation and dropped bombs on several positions near the Pakistan border.

DILAWAR KHAN ADDS FROM WANA: Suspected militants fired rockets and missiles on army installations in Bosh Narai Ghar near the border on Sunday night. Unofficial reports said that three soldiers received injuries when a shell hit a military outpost. However, the ISPR spokesman denied the report. He confirmed that miscreants had fired rockets on the security forces in Bosh Narai, but did not cause any loss to the forces.

* updated on map: http://users.in-motion.net/~jefft/tech/Mapping/afghanistan/miramshah1.jpg

844 posted on 08/23/2004 11:25:43 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: jeffers
Nice map!

--Boot Hill

845 posted on 08/24/2004 1:41:38 AM PDT by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!!!)
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To: AdmSmith; jeffers

Nice posts. Looks like U.N. and Pakistani forces are stirring smack dab in the middle of the Taliban/AQ nest. Too bad we didn't get more of them at Tora Bora. But how much better to have them pinned down over there than free to plot against civilization here and in Europe.


846 posted on 08/24/2004 3:15:32 AM PDT by B.Bumbleberry
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To: AdmSmith

It is ever more apparent that the recent attacks against Musharraf and targets in Saudi Arabia by AQ were huge mistakes. I suspect the bombings in Spain are of similar effect in spite of the new government. Whatever they hoped to achieve by these tactics has surely backfired.

After a number of unpleasant stings, the world is now after the hive in earnest. No thanks to Bill Clinton and his ilk here and abroad.

Meanwhile the great progress that we're making against terrorism is clouded over by the pathetic fulminations and distractions of one John F. Kerry and his hateful minions.

It's my guess that looking back 50 years hence, the great turning point in stemming the tide of a militant Islamic insurgance, grounded so much as it is in the ignorance of its peoples to the intentions and the goodness of the West, will be our efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq. Next on the agenda? One word---IRAN!


847 posted on 08/24/2004 3:48:37 AM PDT by B.Bumbleberry
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To: Boot Hill

Thanks for the pointer to Hasan Khel. I agree that is the only named village in the right area, but it appears that every bush and rock over thirty miles is also named Hasan Khel. Still, it fits in with the other two villages of Bangidar and Dabgay, and also with reports of a third Afghan village, either Mando Khel or Shankai, involved in the original attack on the US patrol, which was "near the border" and "northeast of Khost".

If you haven't already noticed, that terrain is nowhere near as rugged as it looks on the map. Highest elevations run to 6000 feet and change, well under the ceilings of military aircraft, only mild performance problems for the troops and no AMS, and roughly 80 percent of the total area shaded green is trafficable to vehicles when viewed on a 30 meter per pixel DEM. Less than 5% would be difficult for foot traffic. Of course, boulderfields or loose talus would affect these figures, and it is impossible to place such with any certainty using the data available.

By the way, a big thumbs up to the Paks up on Bosh Narai. To the best of my knowlege, that's the first look any friendlies have had into the Shawal in close to a year. It may not be a recent development, because there were reports of troops helicoptered to "all the mountain peaks overlooking Mantoi and Sangtoi" back in the early days of the advances into the upper Shakai Valley, but until the Pak Army's spokesman confirmed the presence in the report quoted, it was never specifiued that we have forces all the way up on the main ridge.

Right on Paks!


848 posted on 08/24/2004 1:12:25 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: AdmSmith

Have you seen this one?

http://www.hipakistan.com/en/detail.php?newsId=en69800&F_catID=17&f_type=source&day=6

Omar claims Taliban rule in Orazgan, Zabul

PESHAWAR – Taliban Supreme Leader Mulla Mohammad Omar Akhund has claimed of establishing his rule over most parts of Orazgan and Zabul provinces and his followers are making advancement in Qandahar and Ghazni provinces of Afghanistan.
No one either from allied forces or their local supporters could come out on roads in night time on Ghazni-Qandahar Road. Mulla Mohammad Omar made these remarks through a Press statement circulated here in Peshawar on Sunday. The statement is written in Pushto. Mulla Mohammad Omar has expressed satisfaction over what he called Jihad against the allied forces and its installed regime in Afghanistan. He termed the allied forces as Saleebi Ittehad (Christians alliance) and said that Jihad against the allied forces is must for Muslims.
Mulla Mohammad Omar recalled his stance and vowed to continue Jihad for the independence of oppressed Muslims in Chechnya, Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan but did not mention Kashmir. He also pointed out the brutalities of the allied forces against the Muslims.
He claimed that the allied forces are on a retreat in all over the world and now are offering reconciliation to Sheikh Osama and other mujahideen leaders.
He stressed unity amongst the Muslims for an independent Islamic state from where they could resist against the brutalities and aggression of the allied and imperialist forces. In presence of Islamic state, it will not be possible for the allied forces to indulge themselves in humiliation of prisoners like of Abu Gharib and Guentenamo Bay.
The Taliban leader urged the Muslims to come forward and wage Jihad for the supremacy of Islam and to ensure survival of the Muslims with honour and dignity.
Mulla Mohammad Omar also claimed that in the near future he would establish a headquarter in one of the independent part of Afghanistan for better interaction among the mujahideen.
He said that Islami Tehrik has compelled the local administration to withdraw support to the US forces.
Mulla Mohammad Omar suggested ISAF and NATO high-ups to dissociate its forces and send them into Orazgan and Zabul provinces to determine the real situation.
“If ISAF and NATO are reluctant to do so, then we demand de-militarisation of Kabul at earliest,” said Mulla Omar.


849 posted on 08/24/2004 2:34:21 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (<a href="http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/terroristscorecard/">Terrorist Scorecard</a>)
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To: jeffers
“I agree that is the only named village in the right area, but it appears that every bush and rock over thirty miles is also named Hasan Khel.

LOL, you noticed that, did you?! I had the same problem, so I moved on to locate Bangidar. That was fairly simple and locating it allowed me to return to the Hasan Khel search and calculate the distance between each of the possible Hasan Khel's and Bangidar. Only one database item stood out as the obvious choice.

--Boot Hill

850 posted on 08/24/2004 3:18:26 PM PDT by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!!!)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Old One Eye is a tough one, that's for sure.

He scared a whole Marine MEU right out of Oruzgan. It's not hard to see through their lies that there were no Taliban left to kill.

He scared more than a hundred thousand US troops out of Europe and Asia too, running home with tails between legs.

Well...running somewhere, at least.

;-)


851 posted on 08/24/2004 3:22:12 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: Boot Hill

"Only one database item stood out as the
obvious choice. "

Agreed, except...

I haven't forgotten the second major Pak offensive, repeatedly reported as being 20km west of Wana, when all I could find for a week that matched Tiarza and Ladha etc were northeast of Wana instead. I ignored what the data was telling me then and I won't do that again.

In that vein, there are some confluence of similar spellings to places mentioned in this series of events that point to the area SW of Khost where the border turns from east-west to south, call it N32.9 N69.2 for reference.

I agree that we are ok for at least a big part of the recent engagements, but am still keeping the other area in mind.

The Hasan and Mando tribes seem to either be extensive builders or else at least have a lot of in-laws.


852 posted on 08/24/2004 3:28:46 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: AdmSmith
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AdmSmith


suspected al-Qaida fighters in an overnight mortar assault on a mud-brick fortress near the Afghan border .


Mud Brick Fortress ?





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853 posted on 08/24/2004 3:42:19 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: jeffers
“I haven't forgotten the second major Pak offensive, repeatedly reported as being 20km west of Wana, when all I could find for a week that matched Tiarza and Ladha etc were northeast of Wana instead. I ignored what the data was telling me then and I won't do that again.”

I've had that happen, too, so I use the following approach to avoid this problem. When it comes to place name spellings and locations, I put about 20% trust in media reports and 99% trust in the GEONames data base. When you have such an obvious conflict in location, as the one you cited between the media and the geographic database, one way to resolve this is to Google the city names and see what other reporters and websites have to say about the location. Given enough news stories, one of those idiot reporters is bound to finally get it right.

“The Hasan and Mando tribes seem to either be extensive builders or else at least have a lot of in-laws.”

I'll post a GEONames database list that I customized on all 147 FATA tribes and their location coordinates.

--Boot Hill

854 posted on 08/24/2004 8:01:47 PM PDT by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!!!)
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To: Boot Hill

Thanks.

Here's an update:

Hundreds of troops arrive in Bangi Dar

By Pazir Gul


MIRAMSHAH, Aug 24: Hundreds of regular and paramilitary troops have been deployed in Bangi Dar area along the Afghanistan border to check possible incursion
of terrorists from Afghanistan where the US-led Afghan troops have launched an operation against Al Qaeda and Taliban suspects.

Informed sources and witnesses said that the troops had taken up positions in the area and completely sealed the border to stop terrorists from infiltrating into
Pakistan from Afghanistan.

They said the troops were seen heading from Datakhel tehsil towards Bangi Dar and Hassankhel areas. The sources said that three soldiers and a junior
commissioned officer of the army had been wounded in Monday's clash with militants.

They have been identified as Captain Arshad, Naib Subaidar Mardad, Ghulam Qadir and Nek Mohammad. They have been taken to the Combined Military Hospital
in Bannu. The clash left four militants, three of them foreigners, dead. Two terrorists were arrested in the operation.

Paramilitary forces recovered four missiles near the Wana Scouts camp in the South Waziristan tribal region on Tuesday, Dilawar Khan Wazir adds from Wana
quoting informed sources. The missiles had been left near the camp by military.

Residents of the area said two high-intensity explosions rocked Wana on Monday night but there was no report of any casualties. Syed Irfan Raza adds from
Islamabad: Security forces seized a large cache of arms and ammunition during a raid on a compound, 18 kilometres north of Miramshah, on Monday, an
Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) press release issued here on Tuesday said.

http://www.dawn.com/2004/08/25/top5.htm

Sounds like the Paks found more than just two jeeps. Hope this isn't a diversion designed to soften the perimeter around the Shawal. Enemy and vehicles do nothing to contradict that possible assessment, but a long established base does.


855 posted on 08/24/2004 11:10:09 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: jeffers; AdmSmith
“I'll post a GEONames database list that I customized on all 147 FATA tribes and their location coordinates.”

Here it is, jeffers, sorry about the length. You'll find it useful in locating the coordinates of some of the tribal names we keep running across. Just drag-n-drop it into a text file or an html file and save it for later reference.

My personal favorite is "Silli Khel".

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The following table is an alphabetic listing, compiled from the GEONames database output, for all "Tribal Area" (TRB) geophysical feature designations, located within FATA, Pakistan. All native names and significant variants are listed individually. Variants names are followed by an asterisk.

THE 147 TRIBES OF THE FEDERALLY ADMINISTERED TRIBAL AREAS OF PAKISTAN

tribe location also known as...
Aba Khel     32° 27' 35" N 070° 14' 42" E      
Adam Khel     33° 41' 13" N 071° 26' 28" E         Zarghun Khel
Abdul Aziz Khel     33° 46' 08" N 071° 05' 20" E      
Ad Zai     32° 35' 20" N 070° 23' 19" E      
Afridi*     33° 51' 53" N 070° 43' 02" E      
Ahmadzai     32° 08' 24" N 070° 02' 04" E      
Ahmadzai*     32° 17' 00" N 069° 38' 00" E         Wazir
Aiman Khel     32° 01' 10" N 069° 25' 00" E      
Akhorwal     33° 44' 22" N 071° 26' 11" E         Hasan Khel*
Alia Khel     32° 28' 34" N 070° 16' 59" E      
Alisherzai Pitao     33° 40' 09" N 070° 32' 55" E      
Alisherzai Sweri     33° 39' 00" N 070° 40' 00" E      
Alizai     33° 46' 25" N 070° 13' 13" E      
Alizai     34° 42' 50" N 071° 34' 00" E      
Ambar Utman Khel         34° 35' 45" N 071° 27' 00" E      
Arzai     34° 53' 30" N 071° 27' 00" E      
Asil     34° 34' 00" N 071° 38' 00" E      
Badda Khel     33° 54' 43" N 070° 11' 00" E      
Badza     32° 30' 24" N 070° 18' 52" E      
Badzai     32° 35' 39" N 070° 15' 32" E      
Bahlolzai     32° 41' 00" N 070° 06' 00" E      
Bangash     33° 24' 40" N 070° 36' 00" E      
Bar Mad     34° 55' 30" N 071° 32' 44" E      
Bar Qambar Khel     33° 49' 39" N 070° 35' 46" E      
Barakzai     31° 49' 00" N 070° 01' 30" E         Sanatia*
Bhittanni     32° 14' 18" N 070° 06' 23" E      
Biland Khel     33° 18' 58" N 070° 32' 37" E      
Bizoti     33° 47' 30" N 071° 02' 30" E      
Bomi Khel     32° 28' 35" N 069° 22' 40" E      
Bora Khel     32° 57' 50" N 070° 03' 20" E      
Burhan Khel     34° 18' 51" N 071° 27' 20" E      
Butkor     34° 37' 13" N 071° 31' 03" E      
Chaharmung     34° 45' 20" N 071° 20' 00" E      
Chamkanni     33° 51' 54" N 070° 21' 36" E         Goadara*
Chuhar Khel     31° 28' 00" N 070° 04' 00" E      
Darwesh Khel     32° 29' 10" N 069° 37' 00" E      
Dawezai     34° 34' 30" N 071° 21' 00" E      
Dhanna*     32° 27' 15" N 070° 09' 50" E         Waruki
Drozandai     32° 49' 20" N 070° 17' 37" E      
Duparzai     33° 47' 12" N 070° 11' 50" E      
Gandab     34° 20' 40" N 071° 14' 30" E      
Gandao     34° 21' 40" N 071° 20' 25" E         Halimzai
Gangi Khel     32° 25' 50" N 069° 27' 30" E      
Ghilzai     32° 03' 37" N 069° 21' 40" E      
Ghundi Khel     33° 49' 39" N 070° 02' 37" E      
Goadara     33° 48' 13" N 070° 21' 37" E      
Goadara*     33° 51' 54" N 070° 21' 36" E         Chamkanni
Gurbaz     32° 54' 51" N 070° 23' 39" E      
Haibat Khel     32° 37' 55" N 069° 37' 50" E      
Haji Khel     33° 54' 09" N 070° 14' 26" E         Hall Khel*
Halimzai     34° 21' 40" N 071° 20' 25" E         Gandao
Hall Khel*     33° 54' 09" N 070° 14' 26" E         Haji Khel
Hamza Khel     33° 52' 24" N 070° 09' 00" E      
Hasan Khel     33° 17' 45" N 070° 20' 45" E      
Hasan Khel     33° 18' 10" N 070° 31' 16" E         Mohmit Khel*
Hasan Khel*     33° 44' 22" N 071° 26' 11" E         Akhorwal
Ibrahim Khel     32° 53' 35" N 069° 35' 30" E      
Ibrahim Khel*     33° 12' 08" N 070° 12' 28" E         Titi Madda Khel    
    Kot Mir Akbar*
Ibrahim Khel*     33° 05' 00" N 070° 22' 00" E         Tori Khel
Isa Khel     34° 30' 50" N 071° 26' 00" E      
Jalal Khel     32° 27' 05" N 070° 06' 14" E      
Jani Khel     32° 43' 45" N 069° 37' 00" E      
Kakazai     34° 51' 00" N 071° 21' 00" E      
Kam Shilman     34° 09' 00" N 071° 16' 00" E      
Kamala     34° 26' 05" N 071° 19' 11" E      
Kanazai     32° 35' 53" N 070° 17' 04" E      
Kandhari     34° 28' 57" N 071° 16' 50" E      
Katagram     32° 21' 54" N 070° 17' 56" E      
Khaddar Khel     32° 53' 20" N 069° 42' 30" E      
Khani Khel     33° 50' 20" N 070° 30' 30" E      
Kharsin     32° 59' 35" N 069° 47' 30" E      
Khidarzai     31° 32' 20" N 070° 02' 00" E      
Khoidad Khel     33° 35' 00" N 070° 39' 00" E      
Khojal Khel     32° 20' 10" N 069° 32' 10" E      
Khwaezai     34° 23' 57" N 071° 15' 54" E      
Khwajak     33° 54' 53" N 070° 21' 32" E      
Kikarai     32° 40' 04" N 070° 02' 31" E      
Kot Mir Akbar*     33° 12' 08" N 070° 12' 28" E         Ibrahim Khel*
    Titi Madda Khel
Kuki Khel     33° 55' 00" N 070° 47' 00" E      
Kuki Khel     34° 01' 45" N 071° 13' 45" E      
Kuki Khel     34° 02' 38" N 071° 19' 00" E         Afridi*
Laman Utman Khel         34° 26' 47" N 071° 29' 42" E      
Lar Madak     34° 47' 42" N 071° 33' 00" E      
Lar Sadin     34° 51' 04" N 071° 35' 14" E      
Largha Shirani     31° 45' 00" N 070° 05' 00" E         Sheranis*
Largin     33° 28' 00" N 070° 22' 15" E      
Loe Shilman     34° 13' 35" N 071° 16' 13" E      
Madda Khel     32° 44' 55" N 069° 42' 30" E      
Madijan     32° 14' 23" N 069° 48' 42" E      
Mahsud     32° 37' 32" N 070° 07' 40" E      
Malikdin Khel     33° 50' 18" N 070° 45' 03" E      
Mamazai     33° 37' 15" N 070° 32' 20" E         Zaimukht*
Mamuzai     33° 29' 00" N 070° 30' 30" E      
Mandal     34° 41' 00" N 071° 28' 30" E      
Mani Khel     33° 45' 56" N 071° 03' 00" E      
Manzar Khel     32° 57' 30" N 069° 44' 20" E      
Marhel     31° 40' 20" N 070° 13' 30" E      
Maru Khel     33° 51' 24" N 070° 09' 10" E      
Mastu Khel     33° 49' 50" N 070° 08' 25" E      
Masuzai     33° 47' 51" N 070° 32' 59" E      
Miani     32° 02' 08" N 070° 02' 51" E      
Mohmit Khel     32° 53' 10" N 069° 42' 30" E      
Mohmit Khel*     33° 18' 10" N 070° 31' 16" E         Hasan Khel
Mullagori     34° 08' 41" N 071° 19' 22" E      
Mundi Khel     34° 28' 19" N 071° 24' 05" E      
Muqbil     33° 48' 08" N 069° 58' 45" E      
Mutakkai     34° 47' 09" N 071° 43' 39" E      
Nazar Khel     32° 32' 35" N 069° 43' 35" E      
Niamat Khel     32° 31' 57" N 070° 16' 13" E      
Painda Khel     34° 38' 40" N 071° 40' 00" E      
Qambar Khel     33° 48' 09" N 070° 46' 51" E      
Qambar Khel     33° 54' 30" N 070° 50' 00" E      
Safi     34° 34' 00" N 071° 16' 00" E      
Salarzai     34° 42' 30" N 071° 17' 00" E      
Sanatia*     31° 49' 00" N 070° 01' 30" E         Barakzai
Sarang Khel     32° 33' 15" N 069° 37' 50" E      
Shabi Khel     32° 36' 31" N 069° 51' 20" E      
Shadi Khel     32° 36' 13" N 070° 19' 58" E      
Shaikh Bazid     31° 59' 00" N 069° 58' 00" E      
Shaman Khel     32° 35' 50" N 069° 43' 40" E      
Shamozai     34° 42' 50" N 072° 10' 00" E      
Sheranis*     31° 45' 00" N 070° 05' 00" E         Largha Shirani
Sherawani Mela     33° 33' 20" N 070° 14' 32" E      
Shingi     32° 25' 51" N 070° 01' 59" E      
Shinwari     34° 38' 00" N 071° 19' 00" E      
Silli Khel     32° 29' 50" N 069° 27' 54" E      
Sipah     33° 49' 50" N 070° 51' 00" E      
Sipah     33° 53' 09" N 070° 54' 23" E      
Sipaya     33° 45' 44" N 071° 12' 04" E      
Sirk Khel     32° 12' 00" N 069° 24' 48" E      
Sturi Khel     33° 48' 38" N 071° 11' 13" E      
Sulaiman Khel     32° 01' 25" N 069° 33' 00" E      
Surar     32° 25' 03" N 070° 17' 55" E      
Tajbi Khel     32° 38' 57" N 070° 20' 42" E      
Tarakzai     34° 13' 00" N 071° 22' 00" E      
Tarkanri     34° 54' 00" N 071° 37' 00" E      
Taru Khel     32° 37' 57" N 070° 23' 20" E      
Titi Madda Khel     33° 12' 08" N 070° 12' 28" E         Ibrahim Khel*
    Kot Mir Akbar*
Toji Khel     32° 27' 50" N 069° 32' 00" E      
Tori Khel     33° 05' 00" N 070° 22' 00" E         Ibrahim Khel*
Turi     33° 50' 00" N 070° 05' 00" E      
Umar Khel     34° 28' 21" N 071° 29' 43" E      
Upper Daur     32° 56' 00" N 069° 52' 00" E      
Usterana     31° 22' 20" N 070° 19' 00" E      
Utman Khel     31° 54' 30" N 069° 59' 00" E      
Utmanzai     34° 29' 30" N 071° 22' 00" E      
Wali Khel     32° 45' 30" N 069° 36' 00" E      
Waraspun     32° 26' 46" N 070° 21' 57" E      
Wargara     32° 40' 46" N 070° 21' 45" E      
Waruki     32° 27' 15" N 070° 09' 50" E         Dhanna*
Watizai     33° 28' 30" N 070° 26' 30" E      
Wazir     32° 17' 00" N 069° 38' 00" E         Ahmadzai*
Wur     34° 49' 00" N 071° 27' 00" E      
Wuzi Khel     32° 56' 47" N 070° 03' 06" E      
Yasinzai     31° 47' 00" N 070° 03' 00" E      
Zaimukht*     33° 37' 15" N 070° 32' 20" E         Mamazai
Zakha Khel     34° 02' 09" N 071° 07' 43" E      
Zalli Khel     32° 15' 15" N 069° 31' 40" E      
Zarghun Khel     33° 41' 13" N 071° 26' 28" E         Adam Khel
Zilli Khel     32° 19' 40" N 069° 22' 30" E      
Zir Gwazha     32° 13' 16" N 069° 27' 45" E      

(Told you it was long!)

--Boot Hill

856 posted on 08/25/2004 3:47:37 AM PDT by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!!!)
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To: jeffers
“They said the troops were seen heading from Datakhel tehsil towards Bangi Dar and Hassankhel areas.”

Native name, Datta Khel, has three locations practically on top of each others mol 40 klicks west of Bandgidar.

33° 08' 47" N 070° 25' 38" E
33° 08' 20" N 070° 26' 47" E
33° 08' 31" N 070° 25' 10" E

And another three Datta Khel's, again, almost on top of each over here.

32° 54' 30" N 069° 44' 35" E
32° 54' 24" N 069° 45' 45" E
32° 44' 21" N 069° 50' 28" E

For reference, Bangidar is located at...

33° 10' 37" N 070° 03' 25" E

--Boot Hill

857 posted on 08/25/2004 4:23:23 AM PDT by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!!!)
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To: Boot Hill
Thanks Boot,
for publishing this list of all the tribes. Some amusing things can be noticed:

It is not advisable to argue with 34° 55' 30" N 071° 32' 44" E when they have had a couple of whiskeys.
858 posted on 08/25/2004 4:38:54 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: B.Bumbleberry
Next on the agenda? One word---IRAN!

Probably, it seems that they are in a self-destruct mode now when the coup-d'etat by the Revolutionary Guards is unveiled. BTT, welcome to the thread.
859 posted on 08/25/2004 4:49:38 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: AdmSmith
“It is not advisable to argue with 34° 55' 30" N 071° 32' 44" E when they have had a couple of whiskeys.”

LOL, probably not a good idea, unless of course you belong to the Airborne Khel!

--Boot Hill

860 posted on 08/25/2004 4:55:25 AM PDT by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!!!)
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