Posted on 06/17/2004 11:16:30 PM PDT by AdmSmith
ISLAMABAD (CNN) -- A tribal leader accused of harboring Al Qaeda militants in Pakistan's western border region was killed Thursday night in a targeted missile strike, according to Pakistan intelligence sources. The Associated Press quoted an army spokesman Friday as identifying the tribal leader as Nek Mohammed, a former Taliban fighter.
He was killed late Thursday at the home of another tribal chief, the spokesman said.
"We were tracking him down and he was killed last night by our hand," Maj. Gen. Shaukat Sultan told The Associated Press.
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Very good point -
--Boot Hill
LOL! --Boot Hill
That headline really ticks me off. They are not "refugees", they are al-Qa'ida and Taliban terrorists. And it is not a "humanitarian crisis", its the losing side bugging out.
Hey, UN idiots, this is a war, and in all war their are winners and losers. In this war, it's the terrorists that are the losers, and they will be treated accordingly. Get used to it. (Better yet, stay the hell out of where you have no business being.)
</rant off>
--Boot Hill
In 1836, on the twelfth day of the siege of the Alamo, on the eve of the massacre, General Santa Anna had his buglers play all night long, the song El Deguello, the song of death or literally, "no quarter". That music is a soul stirring, haunting, and remarkable piece of music, that appropriately foreshadowed the coming final battle.
It is time to play El Deguello once again.
--Boot Hill
Ahh, how I like imagining this - Let the final battle begin - our boys will not fail -
Refugees?
Or...conscripts?
It didn't work for Ayman. That Gangikhel Valley north of Shkin is too flat and too wide, and anything crossing it spends too much time in the viewfinder.
It's a numbers game. If he looks like all the rest, no shiny new Toyota SUV, no white robes, and if he's lucky and is one of the ones who doesn't get stopped, he might make it.
Bin Laden had the better approach, a small party and a seam. You can't shoot what you never see, but you sure can shoot all that you see if you can dial up carriers and TLAMs on the sat phone without drawing Hellfires. Trying to overwhelm US firepower isn't a wise move.
Mr. Z, meet Mr. CBU.
Still sure this is the big rush. No reports have Paks in the valley yet. The military has deceived us before, claiming that Shakai was twenty clicks west of Wana for almost a week, but the word got out eventually, and it will if the Paks are much deeper than has been reported too.
People talk, and time will tell.
Osama's List. (Part I of II)
Breathing dusty air through purple lips and a matted grey beard, this is your chance to be Osama, live Osama, see the world through his eyes, get all the way inside his head.
Post the top five considerations that you, Osama Bin Laden, look for in a hideout, in order of priority, one being highest prioroty, five being still important, but so much as the others.
Without committing to a list, I'll prime the pump with a few ideas, in no particular order.
1. Proximity to the border, which is close together with "multiple exits", since before 9/11 it was highly unlikely that both the Pak and the Afghan government would come after him at the same time.
2. Proximity to a major city or town, though removed to the rural areas outside. Running a global organization via messengers is tough enough, but the longer the turn-around time is, measured in days walking, the slower AQ reacts to a dynamic enemy, the west.
3. Caves are nice, but only a minor consideration when you buy both gelignite and backhoes by the shipload.
4. Water is a must. Sheep and people need it every day and it is very very heavy to haul in quantity.
That ought to get the ball rolling, what else does Osama need? While you all are thinking and writing, I intend to search out the names of AQ's old training camps and hideouts from during the Afghan war, starting with Global Security's Afghan Militia facilities database, and look at them statistically, how far, average, from the border, how far to water, cities, what elevations he might have preferred in the past, (important because certain strata are more likely to house natural caves, that sort of thing), general tactical and strategic layout, whatever intel I can squeeze out of the data at hand.
Take your best shot at a list, and if you get a good idea after posting, feel free to add and change priorities. Just a list of priorities for now, ok? No sense putting the cart before the horse.
5. A friendly environment, thus stay in an area controlled by a tribe that is supporting you.
Why are Javed Khan from the Karmazkhel and Maulvi Abbas from the Malikkhel sub-tribes of Ahmadzai Wazir hiding?
Then imagine too, OBL and AZ facing their military tribunal and eventual firing squad in Guantanamo, while Mullah Omar faces his own public execution in the infamous soccer stadium in Kabul. Hopefully the Afghani government will have the foresight to recruit some of the relatives of the women he ordered hacked, stoned and shot to death in that stadium, to act as his executioners.
--Boot Hill
"check for leaks from the tribal elders"
That makes sense
Brief report
HiPakistan
KHAIRPUR: At least eight persons were killed and four others wounded when clash erupted between Jagirani and Solangi tribes near Khairpur, Sindh, reports said early Sunday morning.
http://www.hipakistan.com/en/
Police and Qaeda exchanging fire in Gujrat
By Shahnawaz Khan
July 25, 2004
LAHORE: Law enforcement agencies on Saturday cordoned off Gulshan Colony, Islam Nagar, Gujrat, to arrest suspected Al Qaeda militants holed up in a house there and both sides were exchanging fire late into the night.
The firing started at about 6:00pm and it has been continuing uninterrupted, witnesses near the scene said. No loss of life or arrests had been reported when this report was filed at 1:00am, but officials were optimistic that they would overpower the militants soon.
Sources told Daily Times that the militants included three foreign nationals who were allegedly involved in attack on the Karachi corps commander on June 10, 2004. Gujrat District Police Officer (DPO) Raja Munawar said 11 people including three women, four children, and a local were holed up inside. Sources said the police and intelligence agencies raided the house on a tip-off from a few Al Qaeda suspects arrested in raids in Multan, Sahiwal and Gujrat. On the basis of information provided by those arrested in Multan and Sahiwal, law enforcement agencies raided Faisal Hotel in Gujrat where the three foreign nationals were hiding. However, they managed to escape, but one of their local aides was arrested in the raid. After gleaning information from the arrested man, the police raided the house where the suspected terrorists have been living in with their families for the last one and a half months. Sources said the three terrorists got the house on rent from Ijaz Warraich, an employee of the Muslim Commercial Bank, Mirpur branch, one and a half months ago.
Witnesses said the police raided the house in the evening to arrest the terrorists but they opened fire on seeing the police. “The police returned fire and both sides started exchanging intense fire,” a witness at the scene said. The militants were also shouting Allah-o-Akbar (God is great), another witness said. “Being Muslims, we should not be arrested. If we die we will die as martyrs and if you are killed you will go to hell,” Intelligence Bureau SSP Naveed Elahi quoted the militants as saying.
The Gujrat DPO told Daily Times on the phone that the two sides had been exchanging fire for the last eight hours. “I was on my routine patrol with a team of the Elite Force when I heard the news of a police encounter with terrorists. I reached the scene immediately. The shootout had already started when I got there. I ordered to fire teargas canisters at the house but the militants were still firing at the police,” Mr Munawar said. He said hundreds of Elite Force officials had sealed off the area and were trying to catch the fugitives alive. He said nearby residents had been evacuated from their houses. He said the militants were using AK-47 and semi automatic rifles.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_25-7-2004_pg1_3
Pakistanis Sneak up to Bin Laden
By Khalid Hasan
July 25, 4004
WASHINGTON: CIA-sponsored Pakistani agents have infiltrated the outer core of Al Qaeda in the high-gear American effort to grab Osama bin Laden.
The Pakistani agents, who are joined by Afghans and Uzbeks, are “beyond foot soldiers but not in the inner circle.” These agents “are more senior than the agents (the United States had) three years ago, who were on the periphery,” a senior intelligence official told Washington Post, according to a report published Saturday.
US intelligence believes that Al Qaeda today has a far less capable team than it had before the 9/11 attacks. However, Al Qaeda would “still want to continue to attack us in the ways they did three years ago,” the official said.
According to a CIA official, “We have busted plots repeatedly” undertaken by “serious Al Qaeda players” involving both aircraft and ships, some in Northeast Asia, others in Southeast Asia. He said intelligence on the possibility of other attacks had recently been strong. “I wouldn’t characterise what we have now as chatter. I think we have some fairly specific information that Al Qaeda wants to come after us,” he added.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_25-7-2004_pg7_5
Four al-Qaeda Militants Surrender in Pakistan
The Times of India ^ | July 24 2004 | PTI
Posted on 07/25/2004 7:45:54 AM PDT by knighthawk
ISLAMABAD: Four al-Qaeda militants and eight of their family members surrendered in Gujrat town of Pakistan after exchanging fire with security officials when they raided their hideout early on Sunday, police said.
District Police Officer, Gujrat town, Raja Munawar Hussan said police raided their hideout in the wee hours after a receiving a tip off.
The militants opened fire and when the police team retaliated and lobbed tear gas shells, four men, five women and three children surrendered, he told the state-run PTV.
The surrendered included two Kenyans, a Sudanese national and a Pakistani.
Several weapons including AK-47 rifles besides computers were recovered from the hideout, the report said.
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Have fun in hell, Nek.
No, that would be "Moronic bad looks".
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