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CBO: Social Security Stronger Than Thought
WINS NEWS ^ | 6/14/04

Posted on 06/14/2004 11:17:50 AM PDT by areafiftyone

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Social Security's long-term prospects are better than previously thought, a congressional report said Monday, estimating the program won't become insolvent until 2052, a decade later than projected earlier this year.

The report by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office still paints a bleak financial picture for the future of the retirement system, which faces significant strain as the aging baby boom generation retires.

But the report's projection will jump-start debate this election year about President Bush's proposal to revamp the system by adding personal investment accounts.

The bipartisan trustees who oversee Social Security predicted in March that the system's shortfall would be 1.89 percent of taxable payroll, or about $3.7 trillion.

But using rosier economic assumptions over the next 75 years on such things as inflation and productivity, congressional budget forecasters said the shortfall would be 1 percent of taxable payroll.

"While the differences in the estimates should be fully studied by economists and actuaries, they are not an excuse to delay strengthening Social Security," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who has introduced legislation to overhaul Social Security to let younger workers invest some of their payroll taxes in the stock market through personal accounts.

"Even with the more optimistic assumptions used by the CBO, the long term deficits facing Social Security do not go away," he said.

But opponents of plans to partially privatize Social Security say the new report raises questions about the severity of system's finances.

"The CBO report shows just how tentative estimates about the problems of Social Security are, and how absurd it would be for policy-makers to dramatically alter the program based on those numbers," said Barbara Kennelly, president of the National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare.

Both reports pegged 2019 as the year the system will start paying out more in benefits than it takes in payroll taxes.

Analysts say that date is likely more significant because the insolvency projections count on funds owed the system by the government in the so-called trust fund. Those funds, however, already been spent and must be repaid.


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1 posted on 06/14/2004 11:17:54 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone; qam1

ping


2 posted on 06/14/2004 11:19:20 AM PDT by m18436572
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To: areafiftyone
Social Security's long-term prospects are better than previously thought, a congressional report said Monday, estimating the program won't become insolvent until 2052, a decade later than projected earlier this year.

Bad news. Until the problem poses a potential threat to the careers of people who are in office right now, it will never be addressed.

3 posted on 06/14/2004 11:19:57 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Have they found the "lock box"?


4 posted on 06/14/2004 11:21:01 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: gathersnomoss

LOL!


5 posted on 06/14/2004 11:22:17 AM PDT by mattdono (To President Reagan: Rest now. Look in on us. Enjoy eternity. I'll see you again some day.)
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To: areafiftyone

Heh heh heh, Kerry is suffering from issue vapor-lock.


6 posted on 06/14/2004 11:25:25 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: areafiftyone
"The bipartisan trustees who oversee Social Security predicted in March that the system's shortfall would be 1.89 percent of taxable payroll, or about $3.7 trillion."

Do not understand this. America has a 10.5 trillion dollar economy. How is it that 1.89% of taxable payroll is 3.7 trillion?
7 posted on 06/14/2004 11:26:03 AM PDT by bilhosty
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To: DoughtyOne

I know. The only thing he can run on is (according to the Dems)is Health Care! Or he can go realy wacky and run on the Environment ala Al Gore!


8 posted on 06/14/2004 11:26:32 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: bilhosty
Do not understand this. America has a 10.5 trillion dollar economy. How is it that 1.89% of taxable payroll is 3.7 trillion?

More than one year is counted:

But using rosier economic assumptions over the next 75 years

9 posted on 06/14/2004 11:29:11 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Teach a Democrat to fish and he will curse you for not just giving him the fish.)
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To: bilhosty

Looks like the boomers will get back what they put in or some of it. I'll be mad if it's cut back when we retire. Boomers have contributed since we started to work,unlike the elderly in there 70's and 80's. I hate SS, needs reform, yet boomers did pay alot into the system.


10 posted on 06/14/2004 11:32:38 AM PDT by tbird5
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To: areafiftyone

Please stop taxing 6.5% of my check and let me put it in my own account! If that amount equals the max I can have in an IRA, 3k at this time, then at 10% over the next 40 years I'll have 1.5 million.

With inflation, not enough to retire, but a pretty penny at that. I'm already contributing that on my own. To think I could be putting that money back into the economy . . .


11 posted on 06/14/2004 11:33:53 AM PDT by ruiner
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To: areafiftyone
said Barbara Kennelly, president of the National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare.

I can't believe anyone would admit to holding such a position. I think I'd rather be president of a consortium of bank robbers; at least there's supposed to be some honor among those particular thieves.

12 posted on 06/14/2004 11:34:30 AM PDT by Mr. Bird (Ain't the beer cold!)
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To: areafiftyone

I assume this is based on the erroneous assumption that all the money stolen from social security over the years will be paid back with interest at some point.


13 posted on 06/14/2004 11:34:31 AM PDT by microgood
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To: areafiftyone
Analysts say that date is likely more significant because the insolvency projections count on funds owed the system by the government in the so-called trust fund. Those funds, however, already been spent and must be repaid.

Notice how that minor detail was buried in the last paragraph of the article. Oh, well, at least they mentioned it for a change.

14 posted on 06/14/2004 11:36:50 AM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: areafiftyone
This story is a sadly typical example of how far we have to go. The author is straitjacketed into the idea that the only issue at hand is how to preserve Social Security in its current form. The enormous upside to an investment based system has not penetrated his peabrain.

Preserving Social Security in its present form just keeps people dependent and poor. Once fully phased in (a long, long process that would benefit my kids, not me, if started right now), privatization would yield significantly higher retirement incomes and make virtually all retirees financially independent.

But explaining this to the lefties is well-nigh impossible. I have always resisted the easy assumption that people on the left are just stupid, but this is one of the issues that makes me wonder.

15 posted on 06/14/2004 11:45:07 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: areafiftyone

Reform COLA, reducing it on a quickly sliding scale. Time to get rid of the Nixon era gift to old people. SS was not meant to cover 100% of living expenses from retirement to death. Disability coverage was reformed, but should be looked at again.


16 posted on 06/14/2004 11:51:25 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: areafiftyone
Social Security Stronger Than Thought

So, the power of Social Security is stronger than "The Power of Positive Thinking"?

Oh, well. At least no one has to break the news to Norman Vincent Peale.

17 posted on 06/14/2004 12:30:20 PM PDT by newgeezer (Sarcasm content: 100.00%)
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To: areafiftyone
So, when I turn 100, I'm not gonna get my FREE MONEY?????

I want my FREE MONEY.

18 posted on 06/14/2004 12:32:25 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Refuse to let anyone who could only get a government job tell you how to run your life.)
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To: sphinx
Unfortunately, unless there is a sudden outbreak of sanity with the dems and the GOP. this article is irrelevant. Unless the present tide of illegal immigration, multicultural fragmentation and the rise of separatist movements like Aztlan, are reversed, there won't be a United States in 2052. What government or governments would administer the successors to the SS system are unknown, if any.
19 posted on 06/14/2004 12:40:07 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: tbird5
Looks like the boomers will get back what they put in or some of it. I'll be mad if it's cut back when we retire.

Since you'll be "mad" if it's cut back (at all?), what you're really asking for is more than you put in, not "what you put in". As long as you live long enough, you'll get way way more than what you put in.

Which is what everyone wants.

If SS were only required to pay you "what you put in" then there'd be no solvency problem. (It'd also be dumb to have the program at all. Rather: it would be more obvious that it's dumb to have the program. It's dumb to have the program *right now* but that's not as obvious to lots of people...)

20 posted on 06/14/2004 12:53:03 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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