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White couple with Chinese toddler kicked off plane
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | Friday, June 11, 2004 | Associated Press

Posted on 06/11/2004 12:28:42 PM PDT by Willie Green

ERIE — A white couple and their adopted daughter were ordered off an airplane because police were concerned they had abducted the Chinese toddler.

Richard and Ruth Feiock, of Tallahassee, Fla., said the actions of police were bigoted and that they may file a civil lawsuit against Erie International Airport.

“It was a very racist thing to do, ordering us off of the plane,” said Richard Feiock, a political science professor at Florida State University. The family was in Erie on Tuesday night to see an older daughter graduate from Northwest Pennsylvania Collegiate Academy.

Two people aboard the Delta flight became concerned when the Feiock´s 2-year-old daughter began crying incessantly as the airplane sat on the tarmac, police said.

Race was not a consideration when the couple were asked to get off the plane, said David Bagnoni, director of public safety and chief of police at Erie International.

“The baby was screaming, ‘Mommy, Mommy, Mommy,´ and fussing, trying to get out of the hands of the woman holding her,” he said....

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To: Willie Green
A white couple and their adopted daughter were ordered off an airplane because police were concerned they had abducted the Chinese toddler...Two people aboard the Delta flight became concerned when the Feiock´s 2-year-old daughter began crying incessantly as the airplane sat on the tarmac, police said.

I dislike a screaming child in a confined space as much as the next person... but maybe the people voicing their concerns should have had to get off of the airplane along the the family and explain to the police the basis of their concerns as well. That way, when they all found out it was just a case of "cranky baby," appropriate apologies could have been made and accepted and all involved could be equallty inconvenienced. No more "hit and run" accusations.

21 posted on 06/11/2004 12:44:50 PM PDT by Captain Rhino ("If you will just abandon logic, these things will make a lot more sense to you!")
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To: Age of Reason
Don't we have American kids who need to be adopted--or is there something wrong with orphaned American kids?

You mean aside from a lack of kids to adopt and laws that allow birth parents and other blood relatives up to to years to challenge adoptions?

22 posted on 06/11/2004 12:45:24 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Latine loqui coactus sum)
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To: Age of Reason
"Why do people have to go overseas to adopt a baby? "

1. There are very few infants available for adoption in the United States due to abortion and the acceptance of unwed parenthood.

2. Open adoptions.

3. The lack of finality in domestic adoptions. One never knows when the putative father will re-appear to contest the adoption on the grounds of lack of notice.

If I had more time, I could probably come up with other reasons -- but, put simply, international adoptions are typically faster and more readily-available.

23 posted on 06/11/2004 12:45:28 PM PDT by writmeister
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To: Age of Reason

My husband and I looked into foster adopting. They wanted control over our lives, and especially how we raised our OWN
childen. That ended that.

I bet the Chinese government isn't butting into these people's lives.


24 posted on 06/11/2004 12:45:36 PM PDT by Politicalmom ( Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but they're not entitled to their own facts -D. Rumsfeld)
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To: Age of Reason
"or is there something wrong with orphaned American kids?.."

Can only speak for my situation. Nothing wrong with American kids.

However finding a white child is almost next to impossible without having large amounts of money or connections. The Black/White mix is much more difficult than white/Asian. We spoke with many couples on both sides of the issue.

Most of all we were fearful of going through the process and having the mother change her mind, or, looking for the child in the future. A Chinese adoption makes that next to impossible.
25 posted on 06/11/2004 12:46:07 PM PDT by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: Age of Reason

It's often far quicker and easier and sometimes even cheaper (believe it or not) to adopt a foreign born child/baby than an "American" child. Between the red-tape and slow system here make adopting here often quite taxing.

Also - there actually is a shortage of babies for adoption here in the States - lots of older children, but few babies. In many other countries (mostly 3rd world) have overflowing numbers of infants needing a home.

Thank abortion for the lack of adoptable babies here in the US.


26 posted on 06/11/2004 12:46:09 PM PDT by TheBattman (Leadership = http://www.georgewbush.com/)
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To: Age of Reason
Don't we have American kids who need to be adopted--or is there something wrong with orphaned American kids?

Of course not its not in vouge


27 posted on 06/11/2004 12:46:48 PM PDT by al baby
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To: Willie Green

So two idiots get perturbed at a crying baby and the airline orders the parents off.

I hope they sue and win. Moronic passengers who complained, moronic airline crews.

On what basis were they ordered to miss their flight?

Is common sense that rare? Happens on almost every flight with toddlers. They scream a lot.


28 posted on 06/11/2004 12:48:46 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Willie Green
"Race was not a consideration when the couple were asked to get off the plane, said David Bagnoni, director of public safety and chief of police at Erie International.

Then what other reason did you use?

29 posted on 06/11/2004 12:49:16 PM PDT by Red Badger (It's a lot easier to carry a cross than to carry a grudge...............)
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To: MineralMan

your papers please


30 posted on 06/11/2004 12:49:58 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: PigRigger

I think you missed part of the article:

A WHITE couple and their adopted daughter...

The couple were not of a "mixed" race, they were white and their adopted child is Asian.
More likely to be abducted by a non-mixed race couple? What gives you that idea? I'm sure if someone really wanted to traffic and make the "parents" look more legit, there are plenty of Asian women down on their luck on the west coast, probably trafficked in themselves, who would be willing to be part of that plan for a little extra cash.


31 posted on 06/11/2004 12:51:00 PM PDT by cupcakes
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To: Age of Reason

Lots of lawyers willing to handhold with the birth mother when they're ready to snatch them back.


32 posted on 06/11/2004 12:51:36 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: Age of Reason
Don't we have American kids who need to be adopted--or is there something wrong with orphaned American kids?

Yeah. They have parents who sometimes decide they want them back, and all too often the adoptive parent loses.
33 posted on 06/11/2004 12:51:36 PM PDT by Xenalyte (It's not often you see Johnny Mathis in the wild.)
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To: Age of Reason

I doubt there is anything "wrong" with them, but parents retain a lot of rights to their children for an extended period of time in the states and that spooks some from adopting here because the deal could fall through with a lot of money and time wasted and never to be repaid by the person who all of a sudden decided they wanted to be a parent. Not to mention there are some barriers to adopting outside of one's race in this country too.


34 posted on 06/11/2004 12:53:01 PM PDT by cupcakes
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To: Willie Green
I wouldn't put it past these liberals to set up these sorts of things...can be very lucrative sueing people for racism...ask Jessie Jackson.

In today's climate, things like this are going to happen from time to time...when you ASSume, you make and ASS out of U and ME.

I don't know why liberals yell "racist", yet love the media. The media's guideline "Dog bites man is NOT news, but Man bites dog IS news", could possibly be changed to "White couple with White baby NOT news, white couple with [upset] Chinese baby IS news.".

Without some assumption of normalcy, we'll never know what's wrong.
35 posted on 06/11/2004 12:54:55 PM PDT by FrankR (Americans don't know how to NOT BE FREE.)
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To: Captain Rhino

It would also eliminate the unlikely, but possible, case of someone who was just voicing a complaint to get an inconsolable child off of their flight.


36 posted on 06/11/2004 12:55:46 PM PDT by cupcakes
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To: BurbankKarl
You can't fly without a birth certificate, or so I have heard.
 
Actually, you can.  We just flew this week with our 2 and 4 year old and nothing was asked of them ever.  In fact, my son was given a boarding pass at curbside check in without the sky cap even seeing him as he dozed in the back of the car.  Odd, I thought.

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

37 posted on 06/11/2004 12:55:50 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (FReep 'em all, let God sort 'em out.)
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To: Stone Mountain
There have been numerous reports of trade in children in the news. BBC, for example, reported about the Cambodian-Thailand border child trade. There have been many cases of children smuggled in from Mexico.

A number of these children end up with pedophiles & the porn industry. Other are adopted by people who do not qualify for adoption because of their criminal record, previous abuse of children, etc.

These are true horror stories.

38 posted on 06/11/2004 12:58:20 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Age of Reason

There are plenty of American kids that need adopted, but the current adoptions laws, which vary from state to state make this and exceedingly difficult and expensive process.


39 posted on 06/11/2004 12:59:20 PM PDT by Elendil
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To: Dante3

Except these people adopted a child from China (not Cambodia).


40 posted on 06/11/2004 12:59:52 PM PDT by writmeister
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