Posted on 06/11/2004 12:28:42 PM PDT by Willie Green
ERIE — A white couple and their adopted daughter were ordered off an airplane because police were concerned they had abducted the Chinese toddler.
Richard and Ruth Feiock, of Tallahassee, Fla., said the actions of police were bigoted and that they may file a civil lawsuit against Erie International Airport.
“It was a very racist thing to do, ordering us off of the plane,” said Richard Feiock, a political science professor at Florida State University. The family was in Erie on Tuesday night to see an older daughter graduate from Northwest Pennsylvania Collegiate Academy.
Two people aboard the Delta flight became concerned when the Feiock´s 2-year-old daughter began crying incessantly as the airplane sat on the tarmac, police said.
Race was not a consideration when the couple were asked to get off the plane, said David Bagnoni, director of public safety and chief of police at Erie International.
“The baby was screaming, ‘Mommy, Mommy, Mommy,´ and fussing, trying to get out of the hands of the woman holding her,” he said....
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Sounds like you have traveled with small children mom/dad and people had the audacity to give you the hairy eyeball. Nowhere else do you have to deal with other's fat pouring out of their seat into your private space. I love the "Do you mind if I put the armrest up so my blubber can spill onto you?" No where else are you subjected to other's kids screaming and barfing in your ears without an escape. They should make an undesirable class for these people. I'm dreading my flight in two weeks. I hope this time the person next to me doesn't need TWO!!!! seatbelt extenders like last time.
In every case that I know of, for a child of this age an amended birth certificate would have been issued as part of the adoption process.
For older children it may or may not list the adoptive parents depending on the wishes of the child.
I hate to admit it but this makes it even funnier to me! Of course, I wasn't the one getting barfed on after listening to the screamer throughout the flight. I'm traveling next week so I just know I'm going to pay for laughing at this!
Yes...if the child were English speaking and were in the lap of anyone other than her mother.
Then again, she may do it to her mother, as appears to be the case here.
"Of course, I wasn't the one getting barfed on after listening to the screamer throughout the flight. I'm traveling next week so I just know I'm going to pay for laughing at this!"
Hah! Of course you will. [grin]
Posted on 03/23/2003 7:39:31 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin
BEIJING - Police have arrested about 10 people suspected of involvement in a scheme to smuggle and sell 28 baby girls who were found in nylon bags on a bus in south-western China, an official said yesterday.
Local media reported the babies were all under three months old and that one had died after they were found early last week. The 27 surviving babies were in stable condition.
The authorities were trying to find the infants' parents, said a government official who only gave his surname, Tang.
'Some of the babies were abandoned, while others were abducted,' he said.
A photo in the Beijing Morning News yesterday showed some of the bags - about the size of standard gym bags - spread out on the ground in front of the bus.
The discovery occurred in the town of Binyang in Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region, one of the nation's poorest areas.
Mr Tang said he did not have additional details about the suspects or possible charges.
The Beijing Morning News said the smugglers might have drugged the infants to keep them from crying.
A police officer, who was not identified, said the youngest of the babies was only a few days old.
'They had been on the bus for four or five hours before they were found,' he said.
The cheeks of some of the babies had turned purplish as temperatures had dropped on the bus during the night.
The babies apparently were being smuggled for sale, though police did not know where they had come from or where they were being taken, the Beijing Morning News reported.
The paper said the bus had begun its journey in Yulin, a rural district of Guangxi, and was bound for the eastern province of Anhui.
Chinese officials say an unknown number of children are abducted every year for sale to childless families.
Older girls are sometimes sold as brides in rural areas with fewer women.
In rural China, families traditionally value boys more than girls because they are seen as carrying on the family name, working in the fields and caring for parents.
Yulin residents told the Beijing Morning News yesterday they were 'appalled' by the case.
'They thought it was unimaginable that someone would use this kind of inhumane method to transport infants,' the newspaper said.--AP, AFP
10 arrested over Chinese babies-in-bags smuggling horror
Here are a few others:
1. Indian babies sold to West for adoption
3. FBI investigates adoption Web site
A couple of domestic cases:
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"http://www.netaxs.com/~sparky/adoption/sold.html." (12-2-99).
"Adoptee Starts New Registry for 'Hicks Babies'."
The Oak Ridger (1998): 2 pages. Online. Internet.
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Well, at least when dealing with Chinese adoptions, adoptive parents have to apply for a birth certificate when they arrive back in the US. Since most adopted Chinese children were abandoned (and birth parents unknown), they have no Chinese birth certificates. The birth certificates that are issued here in the US have no notation of adoption of which I'm aware. Many adoptive parents also apply for US passports for their foreign born children and take them along when they travel. There are less questions with a passport.
Okay. This explains most of the problem.
excellent catch
You have a beautiful family. We've been blessed with twin boys from Vietnam and a daughter from Korea.
My children are different colors than my husband and me and when going to canada we always clear it through customs before leaving if it is a spur of the moment trip or bring birth certificates.
A friend of mine had a different race four year oled adopted at birth child and he would scream you're not my mommy in the mall when he discovered that it would bring him a LOT of attention.
Personaly, I would have warmed his fanny at home after the first bout.
My experience: We tried adopting in 2 states. In New Mexico, we went thru all the classes and were told we would need to foster care/then adopt if we didn't want to wait 3-4 years. After getting our foster care license, my wife became pregnant. The social worker (a wonderful woman who had foster cared nearly 100 kids - mostly short term emergency stuff - and adopted 3) strongly advised we reconsider. Why? "So many kids in foster care have been sexually abused that you baby will be at significant risk - it happened to one of mine!"
Few years later, we tried in CA. Again, we were told we would have to foster care/then adopt if we didn't want to wait 3-5 years. We went to classes, then were told we would have to attend parenting classes for a couple of hours for a number of weeks - nearest location was a 400 mile round trip. And if we moved (I'm in the military) before everything was complete, we would have to start all over again in the new state. And yes, the law allows for termination of parental rights...but courts don't always follow the letter of the law. And any child we adopted without waiting for a few years would probably have been sexually abused.
In the end, we backed out. We had previously adopted 2 kids in the Philippines while stationed there, so we'll have raised 3 kids. We wish it was more but 1) overseas adoptions can also be expensive (many countries now charge a 10-20,000 adoption fee), 2) a foreign adoption would still require CA approved parenting classes (I asked if they could just interview the 3 we've got...didn't get a friendly response), 3) many countries won't allow someone with 3 kids to adopt (also mid-40s...another no-no for many countries), and 4) if we transfered, we might have to restart the whole process, with any fees paid down the drain. And yes, foreign adoptions can also take years.
My wife and I really wanted to adopt again, and we wanted to adopt a child from the US if possible - but the red tape + military life beat us. At least we successfully adopted twice in the Philippines - but don't get me started on the paperwork nightmare with the INS!
The sexual abuse thing is veyr disturbing.
It's standard operating procedure to travel with birth certificates if you have adopted children.
News to me - and I've travelled around the world my my two kids from the Philippines. Never had anyone anywhere ask for their birth certificates - would have told them to blow it out their @$$ if they had...
Yeah I think that's a crock too. Imagine someone thinking that a person's biological child isn't theirs and they don't have a birth certificate!
Word of caution - will HELP remove...
Some friends of ours adopted 3 siblings - the youngest (3 at adoption) is turning out well. The 2 oldest (7 & 8 at adoption) have made a couple of trips to prison.
What was wrong with allowing this family to continue to their destination and having them checked out by local authorities there? What the hell were they likely to do enroute, bail out or strangle the child?
They were going to jump out the window/sarcasm
LOL! No doubt.
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