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White couple with Chinese toddler kicked off plane
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | Friday, June 11, 2004 | Associated Press

Posted on 06/11/2004 12:28:42 PM PDT by Willie Green

ERIE — A white couple and their adopted daughter were ordered off an airplane because police were concerned they had abducted the Chinese toddler.

Richard and Ruth Feiock, of Tallahassee, Fla., said the actions of police were bigoted and that they may file a civil lawsuit against Erie International Airport.

“It was a very racist thing to do, ordering us off of the plane,” said Richard Feiock, a political science professor at Florida State University. The family was in Erie on Tuesday night to see an older daughter graduate from Northwest Pennsylvania Collegiate Academy.

Two people aboard the Delta flight became concerned when the Feiock´s 2-year-old daughter began crying incessantly as the airplane sat on the tarmac, police said.

Race was not a consideration when the couple were asked to get off the plane, said David Bagnoni, director of public safety and chief of police at Erie International.

“The baby was screaming, ‘Mommy, Mommy, Mommy,´ and fussing, trying to get out of the hands of the woman holding her,” he said....

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To: jocon307

yep for sure that's why many people are going private...only problem is that those can be expensive. Meanwhile 'Bahbra' Walters has a stupid contest to adopt a baby.


61 posted on 06/11/2004 1:22:52 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: the Deejay

Really! And how do you get back into this country without your I171H from BCIS? Or, for that matter, how do you exit the purchase country without the official paperwork?


62 posted on 06/11/2004 1:23:59 PM PDT by writmeister
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To: the Deejay

OMG how sad :(


63 posted on 06/11/2004 1:24:07 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: lsucat
"I will never apologize for adopting my kids from overseas..."

Nor should you.

Congratulations, take a look at my profile to see my little Chinese princess.
64 posted on 06/11/2004 1:25:49 PM PDT by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: Dante3; al baby; Age of Reason
I suppose many find if more fashionable to adopt a foreign child.

BS. The fact the US adoption agencies make you jump through incredible hoops and then you always stand the chance of the mother or father wanting the kid back at some point is the reason why people go overseas to adopt.

Using your logic, I guess people should just say "let them rot, they ain't American babies!" to all the discarded Asian kids.

65 posted on 06/11/2004 1:26:31 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: Willie Green
I guess this is slightly off topic although it reminded me for some reason.

Yesterday I went to the Wal-Mart in Geneva, Alabama and noticed three cop cars and about 4 or 5 cops in the parking lot. There was an open space close to where they were so I parked there and went in.

When I came out all the cars around my car were gone except one ragged looking one which had two kids in it. One looked to be about a 4 year old boy and the other a little blond headed girl maybe 2.

As I approached one of the cops at first started toward me then another apparently told him I was not the one they were looking for. Just then the little girl who was as cute as could be, waved to me and I waved back. I noticed she was unkempt and had a small tatoo on her arm.

I asked the cops what was going on and they just nodded no. For some reason that little girl waiving so friendly despite looking like an abandoned child really bothered me.

Still don't know what was going on.

66 posted on 06/11/2004 1:26:37 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Age of Reason

People go overseas to adopt due to all the red tape, regulations & extremely long time it takes in this country. My sister just adopted 2 Russian babies in less than 6 months. If she went thru a US agency, it would have taken 2 years.

Our system is not set up for easy adoptions.....which is unfortunate for the children.


67 posted on 06/11/2004 1:26:43 PM PDT by Feiny (Hail to the Chief!!!)
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To: keilimon
Possibly the laws differ by state or they have changed in the past year. We have known people who adopted children in this country. Other than having to wait for a while, they had no complaints about the system. And no, they didn't have to make big payments either. Since I haven't tried to adopt children you can call me ignorant -- name calling doesn't bother me.
68 posted on 06/11/2004 1:28:01 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: feinswinesuksass

Agreed,

The US adoption system is very faulted. Overseas adoption is a piece of cake compared to the hoops you have to jump through here.


69 posted on 06/11/2004 1:29:35 PM PDT by najida (Who said I could spell? My fingers are faster than my brain.)
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To: Bella_Bru

http://www.africanadoptions.org/whoadopts.shtml

I know of one lady who adopted four children from Haiti and she raised them same way with her biological children. Every child is wanted by someone. Everytime I turn around I'm convinced that (many/most) lawyers are the root of all evil.


70 posted on 06/11/2004 1:32:27 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: writmeister

I didn't mean to imply that those countries were the only ones -- I just used them as examples. It's worldwide. There have been also cases of children in this country being kidnapped and sold. Its a very tragic situation. No human being, child or adult, should be sold.


71 posted on 06/11/2004 1:32:45 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3

One of my co-workers adopted a boy in California about 10 years ago. They had to pay a large fee, take classes, pass home inspections, background checks & then about 3 years later...they finally got their baby.

Also, if you are a gunowner, you can forget about adoption...unless you want to be disarmed.


72 posted on 06/11/2004 1:33:26 PM PDT by Feiny (Hail to the Chief!!!)
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To: keilimon

Yes i do sorry if this post offened you


73 posted on 06/11/2004 1:36:45 PM PDT by al baby
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To: writmeister
I never bought a child in Asia or anywhere else. My children are all mine & have been adults for many years.

I simply stated what I've *seen* and experienced in Asia.

74 posted on 06/11/2004 1:37:59 PM PDT by the Deejay (Not to be confused with a "man", I am a "lady.")
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To: Bella_Bru
I agree that a big problem is that once adopted in some states the courts -- wrongly, in my opinion -- return the kids to biological parents even if they are unfit.

However, there are many children in this contry who could easily be adopted but are not. Seems to me, though, that this varies by jurisdiction. The cases of adoption I am familiar with have all gone smoothly.

75 posted on 06/11/2004 1:38:03 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: MineralMan
OTOH, this sounds like the little kid who sat next to me on a long flight. Screamed the entire way, then blew its lunch on my lap just before we landed.

LOL

76 posted on 06/11/2004 1:38:38 PM PDT by paul51
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To: cyborg

It is sad, but one does get use to it after a while. I got
use to a lot of things in Asia that aren't the norm in
Western countries.


77 posted on 06/11/2004 1:39:56 PM PDT by the Deejay (Not to be confused with a "man", I am a "lady.")
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To: feinswinesuksass

Yup. It was the CA foster-adopt program that scared us off. I might look into it here in GA sometime in the future.


78 posted on 06/11/2004 1:40:08 PM PDT by Politicalmom ( Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but they're not entitled to their own facts -D. Rumsfeld)
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To: Willie Green

I have an adopted daughter too. This would be a non-story had they had the kid's birth certificate with them, as they are supposed to do with traveling adopted children.

It's standard operating procedure to travel with birth certificates if you have adopted children. I actually get sort of peeved when people DON'T check.

What if we HAD kidnapped the kid? Sorry, but I side with the airline on this one. Better the family is late, than the child be kidnapped. They should have travelled with the BC.


79 posted on 06/11/2004 1:45:32 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (War is the remedy our enemies have chosen. And I say let us give them all they want; not a word of a)
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To: Age of Reason
Don't we have American kids who need to be adopted--or is there something wrong with orphaned American kids?

Nothing wrong with American kids, but with American adoption agencies. If you're not reasonably well off and below 30-32 years old, and willing to wait possibly years you can forget it. BTDT, and was bilked out of every last dime so couldn't afford the t-shirt. Sure, a couple can go through the state (CPS, Human Services) and the cost is minimal but most of those children are older and come with a mountain of baggage. Most first time parents want new borns with no baggage so they think private agencies have "better" kids (know what I mean?).

The trend now days is for open adoptions and some prospective parents don't want any contact with the bio family. A foreign adoption pretty much eliminates regular contact. Some couples may feel the need to bring a Third World child to America to give him/her the privileges we enjoy. The problem with American agencies is they'll charge you for everything they can think of and then some (one expects that in foreign countries but it's shocking when it's done here). We adopted a toddler who went directly from the birth giver to us with the agency acting only as the paper pusher but were still charged a hospital delivery (what?!? the kid was a toddler!), the birth giver's keep (what?!? the agency didn't house her!), and on and on. Then they tried to pull a fast one at finalization when the agency attorney conveniently went on vacation so they could add on more time which in turn meant more homevisit charges, etc. but in the end we were charged a second attorney fee who just happened to screw up just a couple little things but enough so we had to pay extra to go back to get the i's dotted and t's crossed. American adoption agencies are worse than used car salesmen.

Older couples (as if 33+ is old) aren't even considered. One would think a 30 something would be preferable since the couple is more mature, more settled in their lives, the marriage is more stable, their careers are established, gone through fertility treatments, and they have put time in considering the responsibility of children. But for some reason, most agencies won't even take their applications.

And then there's the waiting period. Some couples are lucky and get a child right away but others stay on the list for years and there's never a guarantee they'll ever get one. BTW, they want your check up front, NOT if/when you get your child. As I've mentioned it's all a game and besides the $$$, personality has a lot to do with it. Kiss up to the social worker and your chances increase. If you don't automatically click with your worker or have a blah personality, your chances are slim to none (can you say high school popularity contest?). You do NOT want to know what they put couples through for months just to get approved to even make it to the waiting list. With all the rings couples have to jump through for American adoptions, it's no wonder they'd rather spend their energies with foreign adoptions.

80 posted on 06/11/2004 1:45:43 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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