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REAGAN-LIKE LANDSLIDE EYED
New York Post ^ | 6/10/04 | DEBORAH ORIN

Posted on 06/10/2004 12:19:49 AM PDT by kattracks

June 10, 2004 -- NOW is a good time to look back at the landslide win that sent Ronald Reagan to the White House in 1980, because lots of analysts think 2004 could turn out the same way — close for a long time and then suddenly breaking wide open. In 1980, the break came just days before the vote, when Democrat Jimmy Carter finally agreed to debate. Reagan came off as sunny instead of scary and when he admonished Carter with a smile, "There you go again," it was all over.

Like President Bush, Carter faced voters nervous over both the economy and foreign policy and wondering whether it's time for a change — in Carter's case, skyrocketing inflation at home plus the endless Iran hostage crisis.

But there's a big difference, since Carter kept getting bad news on both fronts, while Bush is starting to get good news on both the economy, with a surge in new jobs, and Iraq, with international support for the June 30 transfer of power.


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To: Dont Mention the War
Part of me wants a 2000-style squeaker victory, for the pure schadenfreude of watching the Democrats go completely psychotic. If it's a landslide, they'll merely be suicidal, like there were on Election Night 2002.
I want the Democrats utterly decimated. Why let them to go on thinking that their idology is accepted in the mainstream in this day and age?

The liberals for all their ranting and raving have made the last 4 years miserable. I am hoping that we may get some peace and quiet after this election. That can only happen after they are thoroughly discredited.
21 posted on 06/10/2004 1:40:31 AM PDT by counterpunch (<-CLICK HERE for my CARTOONS)
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To: kattracks

Sane people? Look at the number of jackasses who voted for Al Gore.


22 posted on 06/10/2004 1:40:35 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: zbigreddogz
John Kerry is no Bob Dole.
Senator Dole is honorable and distinguished.
23 posted on 06/10/2004 1:42:21 AM PDT by counterpunch (<-CLICK HERE for my CARTOONS)
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To: kattracks

Kerry's biggest problem is that all he's going to be able to do between now and election day is try to talk down good news on the economy and from Iraq.
I believe voters would rather vote for someone rather than against someone. President Bush offers vision and leadership. He made tough choices on the war and taxes that are finally bearing through.
The American people are turned off by doom and gloom talk. Ronald Reagan didn't get elected for criticizing Jimmy Carter. He got elected by talking about and believing things could be better for America and offering an agenda to make that happen.
People want a leader not a critic.


24 posted on 06/10/2004 1:42:39 AM PDT by Hostile (Freedom is not the sole prerogative of a chosen few; it is the universal right of all God's children)
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To: Allegra

"And while Bush kicked Gore's butt in those 2000 debates"

The funny thing is that the Democrats still underestimate him.


25 posted on 06/10/2004 1:44:55 AM PDT by Hostile (Freedom is not the sole prerogative of a chosen few; it is the universal right of all God's children)
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To: Freesofar
No sane person with a measurable IQ can vote for Kerry, IMO.

It's easy to think that, but I know a lot of bright people who hate Bush more than they don't like Kerry. I can never get them to say exactly why they hate Bush -- they just do.

I think conservatives are going to have to work every moment between now and November to get the vote out.

26 posted on 06/10/2004 1:53:32 AM PDT by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: counterpunch

Good grief, do I need to explain everything? Are people here incapable of taking things into context?

NO FREAKING CRAP, Bob Dole is honorable, while Kerry is a double taking opprotunist. But in political terms, they are similar.


27 posted on 06/10/2004 1:57:33 AM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: Hostile
Anyone else think Dems are pushing the gas price issue so hard because they remember how much the energy crisis hurt Jimmy Carter?

The big difference now is that energy (at least oil) is free market. When Carter was president Gas was not available at any price. The government controlled the price so the oil men wouldn't sell if the price was too low. Today the worst that will happen is that it will get very expensive.

This is more evidence of the genius of Mr Reagan. BTW Ralph Nader predicted that the price of oil, due to deregulation, would hit $600 a barrel by 1990. What an economist.

28 posted on 06/10/2004 2:02:41 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (06/07/04 - 1000 days since 09/11/01)
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To: Lancey Howard

great idea to suggest to any and all athiests and college professors that they are "society's losers, parasites and wierdos" who should go ahead and vote democrat

of course, those we count on to class up the bible-thumping rednecks around here will just know they've got their work cut out for them when they see you coming


29 posted on 06/10/2004 2:09:06 AM PDT by dwills
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To: Straight Vermonter

Exactly.
I'm old enough to remember all day lines at gas stations to fill a tank. I just think that the Dems think they can cause the same sort of political problems even though the high gas prices of today aren't even close to being the crisis that it was in the late 70's.
And Jimmy Carter had a hell of a lot more going against him too.


30 posted on 06/10/2004 2:10:00 AM PDT by Hostile (Freedom is not the sole prerogative of a chosen few; it is the universal right of all God's children)
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To: Freesofar; kattracks; JohnHuang2; MeekOneGOP; Jim Robinson; Bob J; DoughtyOne; shaggy eel

<< No doubt , I predict a major landslide >>

My original [Months ago] prediction, repeated here a couple of times in the past two weeks and as recently as a week ago, was for an effective 40:10 States President Bush Electoral College victory.

Given the exposure of the Real America that Former President Reagan never lost site of -- and of which he was always but a part -- and that we have seen again during these past few days -- I am revising my prediction:

United States of America's President and Armed-Forces Commander-In-Chief, George Walker Bush wins a minimum 44 states to the "Democrats'" presumtive pretender's 6 -- or fewer!

BUMPping


31 posted on 06/10/2004 2:12:50 AM PDT by Brian Allen (Did you hear that my beloved FRiend died, today? -- President Ronald Wilson Reagan 1911 - 2004)
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To: Freesofar; ALOHA RONNIE
No doubt , I predict a major landslide

I do, too. A lot of people are noticing how much patriotism we've had. I don't think they buy into the idea that Kerry is a model patriot. Many may accept that he believed he was a patriot, but with the 60th anniversary of D-day just past, I think we should all know better.

32 posted on 06/10/2004 2:16:04 AM PDT by risk
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To: zbigreddogz

I knew what you were saying, and it was duely noted. However I still must take issue when anyone belittles Bob Dole's good name with any comparison whatsoever to the likes of the low-life John Kerry.


33 posted on 06/10/2004 2:27:25 AM PDT by counterpunch (<-CLICK HERE for my CARTOONS)
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To: Freesofar

I am an atheist, and I will never vote for a Democrat low-life. Despite your blanket insult lumping me in with "society's losers, parasites and wierdos", I forgive you your sins.


34 posted on 06/10/2004 2:31:31 AM PDT by counterpunch (<-CLICK HERE for my CARTOONS)
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To: counterpunch

Good for you for standing up for yourself.


35 posted on 06/10/2004 2:37:49 AM PDT by risk
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To: Freesofar

I've been saying the same thing.

What you tell a pollster is one thing.

What you do once you're in the voting booth is entirely different.

Like during the Reagan years, when you put Kerry and Bush on a stage, side by side, I think it will show the difference dramatically.

In fact, put Kerry on a stage and let him spout his rhetoric and I think it will "scare" people into voting for Bush.

Kerry has not been forced to "answer" questions about his policy, and if he goes into a debate with the same "double speak" that he uses on the campaign he will be as big a laughing-stock as Gore with his "clown cheek make-up" and constant interupting.

I keep a SNL transcript of the skit of the Gore/Bush debates around just to remind me how much "fun" they were.


36 posted on 06/10/2004 3:02:19 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: risk
I don't really consider it to be standing up for myself, but rather standing up for the principles that America was founded on.

It always pains me to see a Republican or Constitutional conservative echo the words of the reknowned bigot, Robert Byrd.

“I, for one, am not going to stand for this country’s being ruled by a bunch of atheists. If they don’t like it, let them leave.”
-Robert Byrd, June 26, 2002, Congressional record
37 posted on 06/10/2004 3:20:34 AM PDT by counterpunch (<-CLICK HERE for my CARTOONS)
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To: counterpunch
Agreed. I think some Christians feel so oppressed by the anti-religious sentiment in our society that they blame all who don't share their exact beliefs for their suffering. This isn't true, and it's very good to remind them of that on a regular basis. I think the idea that western freedoms are guaranteed by Christian values is very strong on the American right. But I don't think it's enough. People have to value their lives in the here and now as well. They need to be the kinds of people who refuse to put off their problems for God to solve. That takes a certain kind of a Christian, and likewise, it's perhaps even more rare among other creeds (or the lack thereof).

On the other hand, I also have the conviction that America needs non-Christians to stand up for morality and strong values today. The anti-Christian anti-Americans need to know that they are not just opposed by the devout. They are opposed by anyone who cares about the future of this country. They are opposed by anyone who believes in religious freedom. The left thinks everyone who opposes same sex marriage is akin to a racist and by definition must be a fundamentalist Christian. They're so wrong, but they have the world all figured out and there's no way to talk to them.

38 posted on 06/10/2004 3:33:23 AM PDT by risk
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

"Look at the number of jackasses who voted for Al Gore."

You shouldn't speak ill of the dead like that. ;^)


39 posted on 06/10/2004 3:35:01 AM PDT by Right Angler
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To: Dont Mention the War

you are so right and isn't it fun to watch them go ballistic?


40 posted on 06/10/2004 3:35:03 AM PDT by gakrak
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