[blam]

GGG ping.

[Petronski]

How the hell can they run an article like that and not have a picture of the map?

Oh, it's the Guardian. Nevermind.

[VadeRetro]

So Arabs knew about England in 1050. Funny how progress goes in fits and starts. The Near East knew plenty about England and vice-versa during the Roman Empire (much of both places was in said empire), but it all came unraveled and much was lost.

[SuziQ]

It reflects the achievements of the classical age of Islamic civilisation and gives an unrivalled picture of the relationship between east and west in that period.

Too bad it doesn't seem to have progressed much beyond that time. (1050 AD)

[RightWhale]

Map making was at its low point in AD 1000. It began to make a comeback with the portolans the merchants made. The Turkish Navy was good with maps until it took on Malta, and we hope to see some of the Chinese maps from their heyday. Of course our usual request to see images applies.

[Rebelbase]

Is this a yoke?

[DoctorMichael]

Fried, Scrambled, Poached or as a burrito-like Omlet?

[aculeus]

The unique and, until now, unseen map

[FreedomCalls]

A previously unknown medieval Arabic map with the earliest representation of an identified 'England' ... It reflects the achievements of the classical age of Islamic civilisation

Multicultural revisionism. So what? Who cares if the Arabs depicted Britain as an island in the 12th century? The Emperor Claudius conquered Britain way back in 42 BC and annexed into the Roman Empire even. The Romans (dead white Europeans, and therefore no longer a part of the the progress of Western civilization -- they seemingly only represent slavery, death, and oppression in the new PC world of history) were clearly aware of Britain's island status. Indeed they were aware of the island status of Ireland too. It was Agricola who said Ireland could be conquered with only one legion. I'm sure that Britain as an island appeared on numerous Roman maps -- it's just that none of them survived (that we know of).

[fso301]

I thought the Venerable Bede drew an earlier map.

[eleni121]

What is the big deal here? Maps of England had been around for 2000 years before this.

[EggsAckley]

[martin_fierro]

Ancient Map Shows Egg-Shaped England

I'll be damned.

He really was the Eggman.

[montag813]

Who gives a crap that the Muslims knew about England 1000 years after the Romans not only also did but had conquered them. The Brits will do anything to prop up the myth of a great Muslim renaissance. It is all BS.

[aculeus]

[eleni121]

How simplistic to speak of an "Islamic golden age" - especially because it never actually existed! Muslims have been good at doing one thing: conquering and stealing other cultures' legacies while pillaging and forcibly converting.

Egypt was civilized and literate long before the hordes of Arab Muslims conquered it and appropriated the treasures that had been there for thousands of years before their brutish intrusions.