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4 U.S. troops killed, 5 injured in Baghdad (Sadr)
MSNBC ^ | MSNBC News Services

Posted on 06/04/2004 6:19:18 AM PDT by I_killed_kenny

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Four U.S. soldiers were killed and five wounded on Friday when an explosion hit their vehicle in eastern Baghdad, a U.S. military spokesman said.

Reuters reporters had earlier seen soldiers dragging away the bodies of several troops from the smoking wreckage of a vehicle destroyed by an explosion on a main highway.

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To: TexKat

We enjoy life here while these brave soldiers died.

I have a feeling the Iraqi militias commanded by Allawi will take care of these guys.


41 posted on 06/04/2004 9:12:02 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: nuconvert

be very warned: very unchristian show :)
42 posted on 06/04/2004 9:15:48 AM PDT by I_killed_kenny
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To: swarthyguy
I have a feeling the Iraqi militias commanded by Allawi will take care of these guys.

Iraq Leader Defends U.S. Troop Presence

43 posted on 06/04/2004 9:20:28 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

"Acting High Commissioner for Human Rights Bertrand Ramcharand"

Where was Bertrand when Saddam was torturing and killing hundreds of thousands? <*crickets?*>


44 posted on 06/04/2004 9:21:09 AM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: swarthyguy

Allawi doesn't "command" anything. The only Iraqis who command anything are the local warlords and insurgent allies who run places like Fallujah.


45 posted on 06/04/2004 9:23:16 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: swarthyguy
Here we go again.

U.S., Shiite Militia Vow Najaf Withdrawal

By MARIAM FAM, Associated Press Writer

KUFA, Iraq - The U.S. military and a radical cleric's militia agreed Friday to withdraw from the holy cities of Kufa and Najaf and turn over security to Iraqi police to end a bloody two-month standoff, the region's governor said.

Anti-U.S. cleric Muqtada al-Sadr criticized the new Iraqi government and said he would accept "nothing less" than an elected leadership in Iraq.

Also Friday, unknown gunmen attacked a U.S. Army patrol on Palestine Street in Baghdad near the Shiite district of Sadr City, and the 1st Cavalry Division said four soldiers were wounded. It was unclear whether the attackers were al-Sadr's forces or Sunni Muslim insurgents.

The potential breakthrough calls for al-Sadr's militia and the Americans to remove their forces from the two cities, which contain some of the most sacred shrines in Shia Islam, Najaf Gov. Adnan al-Zurufi said. The Iraqi police will assume full responsibility for security in the two cities Friday evening.

"All fighting forces, the coalition forces and the al-Mahdi Army militia, should leave the two holy cities and not allow any of their elements to enter again," al-Zurufi said.

The military agreed to move its forces to the periphery of these sensitive areas of Najaf and Kufa while the police can move in, said Col. Brad May, commander of the U.S. 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment.

U.S. military officials insisted they had reached no deal with al-Sadr but had accepted a request by the government to reposition the U.S. troops.

May defined "sensitive areas" as the Imam Ali Shrine in Najaf and the Kufa mosque. Al-Zurufi promised the Americans that al-Sadr's militia had "been reduced to the point where the legitimate Iraqi security forces can move in to those very sensitive areas. It's an Iraqi solution to the problem."

Brig. Gen. Mark Hertling, deputy commander of the U.S. Army's 1st Armored Division, said the government's announcement was a "historic move."

"As the governor said, he believes he has the right amount of police," Hertling said. "U.S. troops will continue to patrol and conduct reconnaissance missions."

A statement from a negotiating team of Shiite leaders in Najaf said their "initiative succeeded after Muqtada al-Sadr ... issued orders" late Thursday on the cease-fire and "committed to them."

However, as the deadline for the start of the withdrawal passed, several al-Mahdi fighters around the shrine told reporters that they received no instructions to withdraw.

There were no Iraqi police near or at the shrines but the militiamen were less visibly armed than earlier.

A militiamen searching visitors on the way in said they were "just told to not openly display their weapons." He refused to give his name.

"No, there were no withdrawal orders. We are still getting volunteers who want to join al-Mahdi army," said another militiamen, Abu Mohammed, 35. "Withdrawal can't happen just in one day."

The uprising began in April after the U.S.-led coalition shut down al-Sadr's newspaper, arrested a top aide and announced an arrest warrant charging him with murder in the 2003 death of a moderate cleric in Najaf.

Al-Sadr failed to mention the deal in a statement read on his behalf in the mosque in Kufa, where he routinely preaches.

"America has taken upon itself to appoint a prime minister and a president of the nation under the cover of the United Nations," al-Sadr said in his message. "It has done that with impertinence and domination. The government must be elected and I will never accept anything beneath that."

He said he could not imagine "any reasonable person would ever accept" a government "which comes from no less than the occupying power."

A Shiite Muslim preacher allied with al-Sadr also had stinging words Friday for U.S. plans for Iraq, labeling Iraq's interim government American "puppets." Sheik Raad al-Kadhimi al-Saadi said a proposed U.S.-British resolution under consideration by the U.N. Security Council would cement Iraqi sovereignty in American hands.

The country's most influential Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Husseini al-Sistani, has given a conditional endorsement to the new administration announced Tuesday by U.N. envoy Lakhdar Brahimi. Al-Sistani said the government would have to win the trust of the people by regaining genuine sovereignty, restoring security, preparing for elections by Jan. 31 and relieving the suffering of the Iraqi public.

Al-Sadr asked Friday what right Brahimi had to appoint a government and warned the United Nations to change its policy on Iraq "or we will stage protests and sit-ins against you. You do what the Americans want you to do."

Al-Sadr's condemnation of the new government was expected, and although he lacks the stature of al-Sistani, his remarks signal that the leadership will face a problem among his impoverished Shiite followers.

In Baghdad, Shiite insurgents fired mortar rounds and rocket-propelled grenades at a police station housing U.S. troops, touching off firefights early Friday that killed three Iraqis.

Helicopters and jet fighters flew over the station during the exchanges that the insurgents say came after U.S. troops tried to raid homes and arrest militiamen. A mortar round killed two militiamen and a civilian, said one al-Sadr official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

"This is the democracy George Bush brought us," a boy shouted as he displayed a blanket that was burned and tattered in the exchanges. Irate teens gathered around, including a child who showed off his handgun to TV news crews.

Elsewhere, a roadside bomb hit a civilian car on the highway to Mosul in Tareimiya, 18 miles north of Baghdad. Afterward, unknown assailants approached the car and opened fire on the men inside.

Five men, presumed to be foreigners, were killed, according to an Iraqi security officer, speaking on condition of anonymity. U.S. army and Iraqi security forces were investigating, the officer said.

Also Friday, Iraqi insurgents fired mortar rounds at a multinational-force base in Hillah, but no damage or casualties were reported, said a spokesman for the Polish-led troops.

The attack came at about 1 a.m., said Lt. Col. Robert Strzelecki in an interview from the 17-nation force's headquarters in Camp Babylon.

Poland sent troops to the U.S.-led war to oust Saddam Hussein and commands 6,200 international troops — including 2,400 from Poland — in south-central Iraq.

46 posted on 06/04/2004 9:27:09 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: oceanview
Its a matter of time for Sadr no doubt, even though he has survived longer than I ever thought he would. But his days are numbered.
47 posted on 06/04/2004 9:32:44 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: TexKat

You know what I think - We will see a Battle for Baghdad and a Rumble in the Green Zone sometime soon.

But with Allawi bringing back the Baathis and exhibiting strength, I think we're going to leave the dirty fighting to rehabbed Baathis and the new Army.

They know how to deal with jihadis.


48 posted on 06/04/2004 9:36:55 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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Iraqi men grieve over the coffin of Abdel Jassim, a militant loyal to Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, who was killed in clashes against US forces Friday June 4, 2004 in the Baghdad, Iraq district of Sadr City. al-Sadr criticized the new Iraqi government Friday and said he would accept 'nothing less' than an elected leadership, as his militia fighters battled American soldiers. (AP Photo/Karim Kadim)

49 posted on 06/04/2004 10:19:30 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: zencat
"why is Sadr still alive?"

Like you I've been asking that question every day for months now. Politically correct war just isn't for me.

You like many, have had a belly full of this crap.

50 posted on 06/04/2004 10:21:39 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: F14 Pilot; Yehuda; LindaSOG

Now, we ned a picture of George Bush with a caption underneath, saing:

we worship the TRUE God, Jehovah, not the Moon God!


51 posted on 06/04/2004 10:22:53 AM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: Thane_Banquo
The media has made the administration scared to death of fighting. The administration is deathly afraid of doing anything that might be perceived as politically incorrect. After all, we don't want to hurt the self-esteem of the people who are trying to kill us.

Declare victory, let them find Saddam dead in his cell, put UN in charge of this twilight zone called Iraq, and get out........

52 posted on 06/04/2004 10:25:24 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: TexKat; kdf1; AMERIKA; Lancey Howard; MudPuppy; SMEDLEYBUTLER; opbuzz; Snow Bunny; gitmogrunt; ...
I know this is an easy question to answer, but why do we see so many pictures of the TERRORISTS holding weapons at the ready, Close up shots, but the shots of our troops are from far away until the area is secure?

Armed militantsTERRORISTS loyal to Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr take positions in the streets Friday June 4, 2004 during clashes with U.S. soldiers in the Baghdad, Iraq neighborhood of Sadr City. al-Sadr criticized the new Iraqi government Friday and said he would accept 'nothing less' than an elected leadership, as his militia fighters battled American soldiers. (AP Photo/Karim Kadim)

Smoke billows in the street near the Shiite Muslim dominated district of Sadr City, in Baghdad, Iraq after an attack by unknown gunmenTERRORISTS on a U.S. Army patrol Friday June 4, 2004. (AP Photo/Karim Kadim)

U.S. Army Humvee vehicles patrol near a Shi'ite Muslim religious billboard in the Iraqi capital of Baghdad's suburb of Al Sadr city June 4, 2004. The United Nations' top human rights official said that U.S.-led occupation forces have mistreated many ordinaryTERRORISTS Iraqis and called for appointment of an international ombudsman to monitor their behavior. Acting High Commissioner for Human Rights Bertrand Ramcharand also suggested in a new report that U.S. soldiers accused of gross abuses in Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison could be guilty of war crimes.(FOR PUTTING UNDERWEAR OVER THE HEADS OF TERRORISTS INSTEAD OF SLITTING THEIR THROATS LIKE THE MUSLIMS DO) Photo by Ali Jasim/Reuters

U.S. soldiers stand over an unidentified covered body lying on the ground after an attack by unknown gunmenTERRORISTS on a U.S. Army patrol on Palestine street near the Shiite MuslimTERRORISTS dominated district of Sadr City, in Baghdad, Iraq Friday, June 4, 2004. (AP Photo/Hussein Malla)

Armed militantsTERRORISTS loyal to Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr take positions in the streets Friday June 4, 2004 during clashes with U.S. soldiers in the Baghdad, Iraq neighborhood of Sadr City. al-Sadr criticized the new Iraqi government Friday and said he would accept 'nothing less' than an elected leadership, as his militia fightersTERRORISTS battled American soldiers. (AP Photo/Karim Kadim)

Armed militantsTERRORISTS loyal to Shiite clericTERRORISTS Muqtada al-Sadr, pictured on placard next to them, take positions on a rooftop of the cleric's offices in the Baghdad, Iraq district of Sadr City Friday June 4, 2004 after clashes with U.S. soldiers. al-Sadr criticized the new Iraqi government Friday and said he would accept 'nothing less' than an elected leadership, as his militia fightersTERRORISTS battled American soldiers. (AP Photo/Karim Kadim)

A sniper with rebel Shi'ite Muslim clericTERRORISTS Moqtada al-Sadr's Mehdi armyTERRORISTS watches over the crowd during Friday prayers in a Baghdad suburb, June 4, 2004. Four American troops appeared to have been wounded when a rocket attack destroyed their Humvee vehicle as it drove through eastern Baghdad on Friday, witnesses said. REUTERS/Ali Jasim

U.S. Army troops lie on the ground near a burning Humvee vehicle following an attack in Baghdad June 4, 2004. Four U.S. soldiers were wounded when their vehicle was attacked as it drove through Baghdad, a U.S. military spokesman said. Photo by Ceerwan Aziz/Reuters

U.S. Army troops pull one of four comrades away from a Humvee vehicle after an attack in Baghdad June 4, 2004. Four American troops appeared to have been wounded when a rocket attack destroyed their Humvee vehicle as it drove through eastern Baghdad on Friday, witnesses said. (Ceerwan Aziz/Reuters)

Iraqi security cordon off an area inside the Imam Ali mosque in the holy city of Najaf. Shiite Muslim Strike>militiaTERRORISTS leader Moqtada Sadr offered mixed signals on whether he would end his two-month revolt as his forcesTERRORISTS battled US troops in the slums of Baghdad but also offered a truce initiative in Najaf.(AFP/Ahmad al-Rubaye)

U.S. Army troops check two of four comrades after their Humvee vehicle was attacked in Baghdad, June 4, 2004. Four American troops appeared to have been wounded when a rocket attack destroyed their Humvee vehicle as it drove through eastern Baghdad on Friday, witnesses said. Witnesses said militantsTERRORISTS had fired a rocket-propelled grenade at the vehicle, employing one of the weapons of choice for insurgents fighting U.S. troops in Iraq. REUTERS/Ceerwan Aziz

53 posted on 06/04/2004 10:35:57 AM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: RaceBannon
And the media seems to obtain the names of the dead Terrorist being mourned right away.

Iraqi men grieve over the coffin of Abdel Jassim, a TERRORIST loyal to Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, who was killed in clashes against US forces Friday June 4, 2004 in the Baghdad, Iraq district of Sadr City. al-Sadr criticized the new Iraqi government Friday and said he would accept 'nothing less' than an elected leadership, as his militia fighters battled American soldiers. (AP Photo/Karim Kadim)

54 posted on 06/04/2004 11:01:03 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Barbarians. Treat them as such.

I advocate war against all barbarians of any political persuasion. If you're outside the mainstream on the left or right, your an enemy of enlightened people.


55 posted on 06/04/2004 11:05:41 AM PDT by kinghorse
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An Iraqi boy holds up a mortar shell and flashes the V-sign for victory in front of burning tires in the Shiite Muslim slum of Sadr City.(AFP/Essam al-Sudani)

56 posted on 06/04/2004 12:23:20 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
New Plan Would Let Iraq Order Troops Out
57 posted on 06/04/2004 12:25:42 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: swarthyguy; 1Old Pro; sarasota
Chilly Chalabi is up to no good.

Ahmad Chalabi, center, walks through the the city of Najaf to check, he says, the ceasefire between U.S. forces and Shiite militia members Friday June 4, 2004. Shunned by his former American backers, Ahmad Chalabi is reinventing himself, bowing out of high-power bargaining over a new Iraqi government to attempt to play the role of peacemaker in this holy Shiite city. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed)

58 posted on 06/04/2004 12:39:15 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: I_killed_kenny
Again I ask, why are they driving Humvee's in dangerous areas and getting soldiers killed when they could be driving these and saving lives?

Surely it's not so they can look "less military" when patrolling civilian streets. It better not be.

This is a terrific site on the topic:

Iraqi Ambush: bad Tactics, Techniques, Procedures and Equipment

59 posted on 06/04/2004 1:14:15 PM PDT by Reagan is King (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: RaceBannon

U.S. soldiers stand over an unidentified covered body lying on the ground

Hey you Ass ociated Press weinies, he's wearing desert boots!
Just who the hell do you THINK it is? Muktada al sadir?
Assholes!

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.


60 posted on 06/04/2004 2:19:36 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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