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In Love With Death (Dershowitz Explicitly Nails Islamofascism As "A Culture of Death")
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 6/4/04 | Alan Dershowitz

Posted on 06/03/2004 7:45:11 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Suicide bombing is advocated by privileged elites

As suicide bombings increase in Iraq, in Saudi Arabia and in Israel, more and more people have come to believe that this tactic is a result of desperation. They see a direct link between oppression, occupation, poverty and humiliation on the one hand, and a willingness to blow oneself up for the cause on the other. It follows from this that the remedy for suicide bombing is to address its root cause - namely, our oppression of the terrorists.

But the underlying premise is false: there is no such link. Suicide bombing is a tactic that is selected by privileged, educated people because it has proven successful. Some of the suicide bombers themselves defy the stereotype of the impoverished victims driven to desperate measures. Remember the 9/11 bombers, several of whom were university students and none of whom was oppressed by the US. They were dispatched by a Saudi millionaire named Osama bin Laden, who has now become the hero of many other upper-class Saudis who are volunteering to become shahids (martyrs).

Majid al-Enezi, a Saudi student training to become a computer technician, recently changed career plans; he crossed over into Iraq, where he died. His brother Abdullah celebrated that decision. "People are calling all the time to congratulate us, crying from happiness and envy."

Why do these overprivileged young people support this culture of death, while impoverished and oppressed Tibetans continue to celebrate life despite their occupation by China?

Historically, why have other oppressed people not resorted to suicide bombings and terrorism? The answer lies in differences among the elite leadership of various causes. The leaders of Islamist radical causes, especially the Wahhabis, incite suicide terrorism, while the leaders of other causes advocate different means. Recall Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr, who advocated non-violent means of resistance.

The bombers accept death because they have been incited by imams preaching "Kill the infidels". Sheikh Muhammad Sayed Tantawi, the leading Islamic scholar at the elite al-Azhar University in Cairo, has declared that martyrdom operations - ie suicide bombings - are the highest form of jihad.

Occupation makes it more difficult to launch successful terrorist attacks. This is not to argue for occupation; it is to separate the arguments regarding occupation from the claim that it is the fact of occupation that causes suicide bombing. Indeed, were Israel to end its occupation of Gaza and most of the West Bank (as I have long believed it should), it is likely that terrorism would increase. The same might be true in Iraq, if the US were to pick up and run.

The time has come to address the real root cause of suicide bombing: incitement by certain religious and political leaders who are creating a culture of death and exploiting the ambiguous teachings of an important religion. Islamist young people are in love with death, claim some imams; but it is these leaders who are arranging the marriages between the children and the bomb belts.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alandershowitz; islam; islamofascism; muslim; religionofpeace; terrorist; trop; waronterror
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To: Travis McGee

Dersh wrote a pretty darn good novel, too.


21 posted on 06/03/2004 9:43:04 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
This might be the first time I've agreed with Alan.

About anything.

Ever.

(*shudder*) That felt weird!

23 posted on 06/03/2004 9:46:03 PM PDT by LincolnLover ("Madam, I'm Adam")
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To: Chu Gary

Relax. This is nothing the Islamoscum haven't been telling us in so many words for the last umpteen years.

What is amazing is that even Dershowitz has been so obtuse for so long, he seems to think this is news.


24 posted on 06/03/2004 9:46:20 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: MHGinTN

He did?


25 posted on 06/03/2004 10:12:57 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Alouette

Thos Friedman was on Wolf Blitzer today and expressed surprise that Tenet would resign in "the waning days" of the Bush administration. Such an arrogant elitest...and so bad a seer.


26 posted on 06/03/2004 10:17:48 PM PDT by MHT
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To: Alouette; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; SJackson; dennisw; veronica; Mia T; OldFriend; jmstein7; ...

<< Recall Mahatma Gandhi .... who advocated non-violent means of resistance. >>

And whose life pays tribute only to the quality and to the towering superiority over all others of the Judeo-Christian/Western Civilization he sought to overthrow -- just, after fifty-six years of suffering their atrocities, as the survival of even one Israel-attacking Arab -- let alone millions of them -- pays incredible tribute to the towering superiority of individual Israelis and of the Nation of Israel's Civilization, over its attackers.

That Ghandi -- a serial despoiler of adolescent girls and an avid supporter of Hitler's pagan-heathen/panthiest Nazis -- is remembered at all, let alone celebrated, demonstrates only the superiority of the Civilization he "successfully" subverted and saw replaced with the evil, socialistic corruptocracy that persists to this day in India where it lords it over the almost a billion Indian serfs getting by on less than a Dollar per day and with the couple of hundred million West and East Pakistanis' nuclear-armed, dark-ages, dealth-cultist serfs -- on Fifty Cents.

Let him have tried "his" methods in the Peking pack of psychopathic predators' Tiananmen Square or in Pol Pot's Phnom Penh and his funeral pyre would not have burned so bright -- or have cast its bloody awful shadows so long!

And let the sexually-deviant-false-furerher-following, moon-rock-walloping, death-cultist islamonazis try either their present psychopathologically-hesperophobic bloody "tactics" of choice -- or Ghandi's "non-violent means of resistance" in Syria, Tripoli and Medina -- and see how long the evil bastards last!


27 posted on 06/03/2004 10:18:34 PM PDT by Brian Allen (United States of America's Presidents George Walker Bush, 2004 and Condoleeza Rice, 2008!!)
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To: Travis McGee
Just Revenge

Alan M. Dershowitz

Book Description
One of the foremost courtroom lawyers of his generation, Alan M. Dershowitz takes controversial stands based on the principle of equal justice for all. Along the way, he has authored the #1 New York Times bestseller Chutzpah; the bestselling account of the Claus von Bulow case Reversal of Fortune; and the bestselling courtroom drama The Advocate's Devil. Now Dershowitz has written a novel that is at once personal, passionate, and towering: an explosive legal thriller that pits Dershowitz's literary alter ego, attorney Abe Ringel, against the worst crime of the twentieth century-the Holocaust.

What if you witnessed the most abominable deeds that human beings can inflict upon each other? What if you came face-to-face with the very man who had slaughtered your family before your eyes? That is the question confronted by a celebrated professor named Max Menuchen. Max has found the man who had killed his entire family in cold blood more than a half century before. Max, who has never before broken a law, cannot turn down his chance for revenge.

In 1943 Marcellus Prandus was a Lithuanian militia captain who carried out the bloodthirsty orders of his Nazi commanders during World War II. Today he is an old man living outside Boston. For Max, who has discovered Prandus's identity by chance, killing him is not enough, because Prandus is already dying of cancer. How can Max make Prandus suffer exactly as Max himself did? Can Max bring himself to assassinate Prandus's children and grandchildren and make the old man watch his family die, as Max himself was forced to do?

By the time defense attorney Abe Ringel enters the case, Max has carried out an astounding act of revenge, and America's great Holocaust trial has begun: an explosive legal and moral struggle to find the light of justice within the darkness of human evil. ...

I must admit that I enjoyed the story! but then I write freelance vigilante stories too.

28 posted on 06/03/2004 10:21:06 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Yehuda; Alouette; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; SJackson; dennisw; veronica; Mia T; OldFriend; ...

#22: Thank you BUMP/ping


29 posted on 06/03/2004 10:22:49 PM PDT by Brian Allen (United States of America's Presidents George Walker Bush, 2004 and Condoleeza Rice, 2008!!)
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To: F16Fighter

That is it precisely.

If Islam were only threatening to simply the US and not his Jewish identity as well, he would be far less concerned.

He is no damn good.

I don't view Islam as simply an enemy of Christianity (which it is). I view it as an enemy of my country first.

I'm going to bed, I'll respond to all Dersh-defenders manana. (if there are any)....there sure aren't any Jews on FR who think like he does thankfully....that I know of.


30 posted on 06/03/2004 10:23:35 PM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: MHGinTN

Interesting premise! I'll check it out, thanks.


31 posted on 06/03/2004 10:28:24 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: GOPJ

"BINGO:
That culture needs to be dragged kicking and screaming into the modern world. "
I would respectfully disagree: we have it RIGHT NOW in the modern world - and what do we have? It it OUT OF the modern world and into dustbin of history should it be tossed out, kicking and screaming.


32 posted on 06/03/2004 10:33:04 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Majid al-Enezi, a Saudi student training to become a computer technician, recently changed career plans; he crossed over into Iraq, where he died.

Look, I know a lot of IT jobs are being outsourced to India these days, but isn't this a little bit of an "extreme career move"?... /sarcasm
33 posted on 06/03/2004 10:39:53 PM PDT by KangarooJacqui ("Welcome to Tehran. Please set your watches back fourteen hundred years")
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To: Brian Allen
the couple of hundred million West and East Pakistanis' nuclear-armed, dark-ages, dealth-cultist serfs -- on Fifty Cents.

Pssssst... "East Pakistan" is actually called "Bangladesh" these days...
34 posted on 06/03/2004 10:43:12 PM PDT by KangarooJacqui ("Welcome to Tehran. Please set your watches back fourteen hundred years")
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To: Travis McGee

Jihad will then equal "Islam delenda est".


35 posted on 06/03/2004 11:09:04 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

bttt


36 posted on 06/03/2004 11:17:38 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades...And panties!)
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To: KangarooJacqui

<< Pssssst... "East Pakistan" is actually called "Bangladesh" these days... >>

But -- [pisssssssd] -- It was not during the time -- the late 1940s -- I referred to.

Bit sad about the difficulty you antipodeans have in figuring the English Language.

An 'English as a Second Language' course or two might help.

Another point of interest for you: -- before, during and post the Pakistan Civil War I have visited and travelled throughout East Pakistan/Bengaladesh around eighty times.

You?


37 posted on 06/04/2004 1:05:16 AM PDT by Brian Allen (United States of America's Presidents George Walker Bush, 2004 and Condoleeza Rice, 2008!!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Nails Islamofascism?

How about

Islamofascism Nails


Side view of lower back and abdomen. Note orientation of whole nails that entered head first.


Front view of an abdomen imbedded with nails and metal fragments.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27778: These bombs, which Messing says are sometimes funded by Palestinian authorities including Yasser Arafat, are packed with spikes, nails, screws, nuts, bullets, mortar, ball bearings and even rat poison. "What were originally created for constructive purposes have been transformed by Arab terrorists into cruel, deadly, destructive projectiles," said Messing. "The nails fly like bullets, head first, penetrating skin, flesh and bone. The unprecedented wave of suicide bombings has presented a whole new set of medical challenges."
38 posted on 06/04/2004 1:55:15 AM PDT by miltonim (Fight those who do not believe in Allah. - Koran, Surah IX: 29)
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To: bayourod; Alouette; Brian Allen; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

The time has come to address the real root cause of suicide bombing: incitement by certain religious and political leaders.

In Love With Death
(Dershowitz Explicitly Nails Islamofascism As "A Culture of Death")

The Guardian (UK)| 6/4/04 | Alan Dershowitz

The dernier cri of seditious and corrupt Leftists everywhere, pro-islamofascist-terrorist radical chic renders the Left, irrespective of policy, no less dangerous to Western civilization than the terrorists they seek to aid and abet.

pro-islamofascist-terrorist radical chic
WHY JOHN KERRY IS DANGEROUS FOR AMERICA
Mia T, 5.15.04


 
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johnkerryisdangerousforamerica.blogspot.com

 

pro-islamofascist-terrorist radical chic
WHY JOHN KERRY IS DANGEROUS FOR AMERICA

by Mia T, 5.15.04

As long as you've got a rich man on your arm, you don't need a big bag.

--Elizabeth Rickard

 

The $100 billion Iraqi Oil for Food program was by far the largest relief operation in the history of the United Nations. By extension, it's rapidly becoming the U.N.'s largest-ever scandal....

Those included rewarding friends and allies world-wide with oil allocations on very favorable terms, as well as extracting large kickbacks from oil traders and suppliers of humanitarian goods....

There can be little doubt that U.N. mismanagement contributed greatly to the negative perception of the anti-Saddam containment policy. There is also little doubt that the reward and kickback scheme--as well the possibility of exposure--was a factor as some countries weighed whether to back U.S.-led regime change in Iraq. There is even reason to suspect that some of the Saddam friends and allies who benefited may have been members of the U.N. Secretariat.

Oil for Scandal
The Wall Street Journal Editorial Page
Thursday, March 18, 2004 12:01 a.m.

eave it to the French to make pro-islamofascist-terrorist radical chic all the rage.

They and their moneygrubbing, Oil-for-Food defrauding cohorts abroad, and their power-hungry would-be terrorist sympathizers here, are all sporting "THE LOOK."

(How many of those oh so trendy Kerry-clinton-Kennedy hate-America, blame-America-first sound bites will Al-Jazeera broadcast today?)

The trusty triad's half-truths, exaggerations and outright lies, confounded by fog of war, vagaries of peace and uncharted territory of asymmetric netherworlds, remind us that things are not always what they first seem. The UN Oil-for-Food scandal, for example, has shown us it was not "going to war with Iraq" that was "all about oil," but rather, "not going to war with Iraq." The Left, we now see, had that one,
(as they have most things), exactly backward.

The dernier cri of seditious and corrupt Leftists everywhere, pro-islamofascist-terrorist radical chic renders the Left, irrespective of policy, no less dangerous to Western civilization than the terrorists they seek to aid and abet.


also:
sanitizing evil
Kerry Cabal Censors Nick Berg Decapitation


39 posted on 06/04/2004 1:57:42 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Brian Allen

Insulting me and my origins does nothing to drive home your point, Mister.

Enough said.


40 posted on 06/04/2004 2:12:35 AM PDT by KangarooJacqui
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