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Ancient Egyptians Were Jokesters
Discovery News ^ | 6-2-2004 | Jennifer Viegas

Posted on 06/03/2004 2:48:31 PM PDT by blam

Ancient Egyptians Were Jokesters

By Jennifer Viegas, Discovery News

Humor Alleviates the Hum-Drum

June 2, 2004 —A recent series of lectures on ancient Egyptian humor given by a leading historian reveals that people thousands of years ago enjoyed bawdy jokes, political satire, parodies and cartoon-like art.

Related evidence found in texts, sketches, paintings, and even in temples and tombs, suggests that humor provided a social outlet and comic relief for the ancient Egyptians, particularly commoners who labored in the working classes.

The evidence was presented by Carol Andrews, a lecturer in Egyptology at Birbeck College, University of London, and former assistant keeper and senior research assistant in the Department of Egyptian Antiquities at the British Museum.

Andrews was unavailable for comment. Scott Noegel, who helped to arrange one of the lectures and is president of the American Research Center in Egypt's (ARCE) Northwest Chapter and is an associate professor in the Department of New Eastern Languages and Civilizations at the University of Washington, told Discovery News that ancient Egyptian humor consisted of at least five basic categories.

They included political satire, scatological and vomiting humor, jokes concerning sex, slapstick, and animal-based parodies.

For satire, Noegel explained that commoners would make fun of leaders by showing pharaohs in an unflattering manner. For example, some leaders were depicted unshaven or "especially effeminate."

Drawings of defecating hyenas and drunken, vomiting party guests are among the existing examples of scatological humor, while the sex-based jokes consisted of "innuendoes and outright erotica," he said.

Slapstick comedy included drawings that showed people suffering unfortunate accidents, such as hammers falling on heads, or passengers tipping out of boats.

The ancient Egyptians had a special fondness for animal humor, given the many examples of sketches on papyrus, paintings, and other drawings, according to Noegel.

He said, "(The images show) ducks pecking at someone's buttocks, baboons and cats out of control, animals riding on top of other unlikely animals, baboons playing instruments, and animals drinking and dining."

One papyrus shows a mouse pharaoh, gallantly posed in his chariot pulled by two dogs, speeding towards a group of feline warriors. Yet another papyrus depicts a lion and an antelope playing a board game. The lion lifts a game piece as though in victory, while the antelope falls back in his chair.

"From everything that I've seen and heard, I believe that their sense of humor was very similar to our own," said Vincent Jones, who organized one of Andrews' lectures this week, and is president of the ARCE Georgia Chapter.

Jones told Discovery News that he attended another recent lecture by Guillemette Andreu, curator of the Louvre's Egyptian collection. He said Andreu presented a list of Egyptian excuses as to why people did not come into work. The top three were illness, getting married, and sorry, but I am building a house now.

"It was funny to learn that people have been creative at getting out of work for thousands of years," Jones said.

Humor was not limited to the mundane. A drawing on the wall of the temple of Hatshepsut at Deir el-Bahri shows an obese "queen of Punt" in front of a tiny donkey. The inscription for the sketch reads, "The donkey that had to carry the queen." The drawing gained popularity and was copied, cartoon-style, many times from the original.

The land of Punt, which historians believe might have been the area that is now Libya or Ethiopia, held near-mythical status for Egyptians in the ancient world. Animal skins and other exotic goods came from Punt via trade routes. Historians also think that Bes, the ancient Egyptian god of humor, infants, home life, song, and dance, originated in Punt.

While the Egyptians built no temples to honor Bes, shrines for the chubby, bearded dwarf with uncombed hair were placed in many homes. The ancient Egyptians believed that anytime a baby smiled or laughed for no reason, Bes was in the room making faces.


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41 posted on 11/14/2010 12:58:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv; blam

404 - Error

We’re sorry. This page is not available.


42 posted on 11/14/2010 1:09:44 PM PST by ColdOne (Repeal HealthCare......NO COMPROMISE.......ever!)
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To: SunkenCiv; blam

OK I SEE IT IS DATED 04, my bad!


43 posted on 11/14/2010 1:13:39 PM PST by ColdOne (Repeal HealthCare......NO COMPROMISE.......ever!)
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To: ScottFromSpokane

Havin’ ‘em babies jes’ ties up the women for any amount of time. ;-) Men...not so much.


44 posted on 11/14/2010 1:21:37 PM PST by bannie (Gone to seed.)
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To: RightWhale

How do you determine that?


45 posted on 11/14/2010 1:23:37 PM PST by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: ColdOne

See? They’re still jokesters, and they’ve been dead thousands of years! It’s brilliant!


46 posted on 11/14/2010 1:49:20 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv
See? They’re still jokesters, and they’ve been dead thousands of years! It’s brilliant! :^)) Tee-Hee~~ LOL!
47 posted on 11/14/2010 1:52:33 PM PST by ColdOne (Repeal HealthCare......NO COMPROMISE.......ever!)
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To: Dog

Why did the Nubian Temple Priest cross the road?...........


48 posted on 11/14/2010 1:52:52 PM PST by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: ColdOne

no worries, for a change, it’s actually on the wayback:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20040531/egypthumor.html

posted here:
http://www.kingtutone.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=839
http://www.newnation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57176
http://panzerblitz.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Culture&action=display&thread=924
http://www.mashada.com/forums/general-discussion-life-opinions-advice/20236-ancient-egyptian-humor.html

quoted or something here:
http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/people/humor.htm


49 posted on 11/14/2010 1:56:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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the graphic from the article is on the wayback as well:

http://web.archive.org/web/20041118164746/http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20040531/gallery/egypthumor_goto.jpg

http://web.archive.org/web/20050128112839/http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20040531/gallery/egypthumor_goto.jpg


50 posted on 11/14/2010 2:00:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Dog

Exactly my thought.


51 posted on 11/14/2010 3:01:34 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: facedown
What Bes looks like today:

Household Troll for poor peasants

52 posted on 11/14/2010 3:09:53 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

Didja hear about the Pharoah’s mommy who was scared to death. She was petrified.


53 posted on 11/14/2010 7:29:26 PM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: blam

‘”It was funny to learn that people have been creative at getting out of work for thousands of years,” Jones said.”

So they invented unions?


54 posted on 11/14/2010 7:36:46 PM PST by Salamander (I may be lonely but I'm never alone...and the nights may pass me by....but I never cry.....)
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To: wildbill

She was probably a wealthy natron.


55 posted on 11/14/2010 7:46:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: T Minus Four

I simply love that picture.


56 posted on 11/14/2010 7:50:39 PM PST by Rebelbase (Palin/Christie 2012)
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To: T Minus Four; SunkenCiv

Dammit! There I go again replying to a 6 year old thread.


57 posted on 11/14/2010 7:51:52 PM PST by Rebelbase (Palin/Christie 2012)
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To: blam

They translated the writing and found that it said, “Take my wife... Please.”


58 posted on 11/14/2010 7:57:06 PM PST by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: blam

Do you have a valid link to the source? The one provided doesn’t work, and searching for “Egypt” on the Discovery site doesn’t pull up a relevant link.


59 posted on 11/14/2010 7:59:34 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Obama: running for re-election in '12 or running for Mahdi now? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi])
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To: SunkenCiv

Yep. I believe she became wealthy due to a nu bisness, embalming.


60 posted on 11/14/2010 8:04:46 PM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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