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Oh, hell yeah I realize your point. I don't think I could even be in the same building with Arlen Specter, much less shake his hand.

Badray, it just seems to me like your plan is parlimientary maneuvering. It is a good plan and I sense that you are concerned with the long term fate of the GOP, which is good since most politicians, pundits and media are focused on the sound bite and short term fix for problems that require a real long term soultion.

Yet, I think we have to put off the Conservative backlash for now. I know I sound like a wimp and a BUsh-Bot but can't we wait until after the election to start the civil war withi the GOP?

" Yet, I think we have to put off the Conservative backlash for now. I know I sound like a wimp and a BUsh-Bot but can't we wait until after the election to start the civil war withi the GOP?"

I wouldn't classify you as either. It's not an easy or pleasant thing to contemplate and it requires work later on to remove the dem that we just put in.

But at least you do understand the significance of the situation. I've been talking about this since just before the primary and when most people heard it they thought that I was kidding. When I explained it in more detail and gave them time to mull it over, many came back and agreed that I was right.

As to a civil war within the party, the sooner the better. I'm serious. We have been sold a bill of goods by the RINOs. Adding people to our tent who don't share our values does not advance the conservative cause. It only serves to dilute our message and increase the chances of electing liberals.

The same people who push to elect Specter are the same ones that fret over other RINOs bailing out in a close vote. Hello!

We can't keep waiting to remove those who are working to subvert our values and our rights.

Yet, I think we have to put off the Conservative backlash for now. I know I sound like a wimp and a BUsh-Bot but can't we wait until after the election to start the civil war within the GOP?

Unfortunately, that won't work. After you've voted you have essentially no leverage with the party power brokers. If you want to increase the conservative influence within the party, you must do it by using your vote against those who are working against conservative values. If you don't do it now, when we have little or no chance of losing the Senate you'll never do it, you'll (the rhetorical "you," not you personally) just continue to complain how the party elite never pays any attention to you while you continue to vote as they dictate. The very same thing has marginalized black voices within the Democrat party.