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To: Cindy; All

Greetings, all. Sadly, I'm limited to using a library computer- and they only give you a half hour or so.

I spent some time digging around on TB2000. Of all the things I read, this makes the most sense in explaining what is happening:

Apparently, Israel is on the verge of eliminating 3 nuclear sites in Iran. They may have the tacit approval of the US. Israel feels it has to act on Iran as Iran has threatened it's existence. Israel will not be using nukes to attack Iran.

However, Iran has signed a mutual defence pact with Russia (as has Syria.) And, of course, the US is pledged to support Israel.

So in essence, it seems that we could very well be on the verge of nuclear war between Russia and the US. Hence all the red-alerts and deployments of ALL US carrier groups to sea, the activation of GWEN, the government agencies going underground, the activation of post-disaster relief centers, etc.

Let's assume Israel succeeds. Russia would then be obligated to attack Israel. (Part of their pact.) If Israel is attacked, we are obligated to step in to defend them....not against Iran this time...but...Russia?

Meanwhile, we have a carrier stationed near Venezuela. Why would we need a carrier there?

Cuba is also Russia's ally and has openly colluded with AQ.

Recently Russia made it clear that they have bases in Venezuela (plus want the oil) and are also going to be launching missiles from French Guiana. This was in the open press June 1.

China made it clear that they are ready to take Taiwan.

Iran just started massive exercises recently.

Israel is on red alert.

We learned that Chalabi gave secret information to Iran.

Putin cancelled going to the NATO meeting.

Australia is advising its citizens NOT to travel to the US__

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Meanwhile- Al Qaeda is poised to attack the US.

It is NOT the US attacking itself to promote the Bush administration.

The AQ attack will be MUCH more than NY;DC;LA--it has been planned for over a decade.

The AQ attack uses bio,chem, and nukes. It is basically ready to go- waiting for the "signal".

Sean Osborne was correct---the nukes are ALREADY in US cities in clusters of 4-5. We have found some- but can't possibly find all. It is a race against time.

Some are being transported in cargo ships,trucks, and even suitcases in vans.

Some will be launched from small boats, some will be detonated in place.

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We know that we cannot stop all the attacks. This is a given. London is in the same predicament.

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If you were one of our government leaders- and all I have learned I have learned from the open press and from a number of friends who happen to know a few things---what would you do?

I truly believe that we are in a catch 22 situation. If we sit back and try to defend ourselves---we face horrific attacks. If we try to "pre-emptively strike"...whom do we strike? Many of our adversaries are HERE.

So I think that we may have gone on the offensive.


Sorry for such a long rant, friends.
I hope I am VERY wrong.

What does everyone think?

take care---Jerseygirl



2,434 posted on 06/05/2004 12:19:20 PM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: jerseygirl

That is a very chilling report. And there is to much real to life about it to dismiss it. I hope you are wrong, but I can't say for sure that you are. Time is the only provider of answers in such a case.


2,435 posted on 06/05/2004 12:28:25 PM PDT by Revel
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To: jerseygirl; All

I'd like a little more info if possible on some of this. Actually, I'd like to know everything there is to know, but realize that it might jeopardize national security & would probably leave me in a semi-consious state muttering "There's no place like home". However, I wonder if you or anyone else is able to elaborate on a few items.

1) Isn't Israel always on red alert? I did a quick search & it looks like that's a fairly common phrase. Does it mean the same thing to them as it does to us or do they have another level beyond "red" such as "black" or something?

2) Have we found some nuclear devices? That's sort of a mixed blessing, to know that some are out of commission but that there are undoubtedly more.

3) Venezuela has oil, right? Also suffers the unfortunate disease of political corruption. Not sure just what it means but thanks for pointing it out.

4) "The AQ attack will be MUCH more than NY;DC;LA--it has been planned for over a decade" Not that I doubt the claim, but do you have a specific source? I am convinced of foreign involvement in OKC (though not necessarily by Jayna Davis' reporting--she's a bit sloppy). It wouldn't surprise me a bit if plans have been in the works for an all-out, multi-city attack on US all that time, just wondering if you have other info.

Not very organized but I'd love to discuss these items further.


2,438 posted on 06/05/2004 12:43:49 PM PDT by Mrs. Xtrmst (All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing. --Edmund Burke)
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To: jerseygirl
Very good synopsis and I think you are right on all.
2,444 posted on 06/05/2004 1:18:56 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (There is no such thing as coincidence, GOD is in control.)
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To: jerseygirl

Even if Israel destroys Irans nuke site I don't think Russia would attack Israel, they are not that stupid. As far as nukes in the states, jefin kerry started spouting that out lately.China and Taiwan, I am not sure about that either. AQ attacks in the USA is only a matter of when.


2,445 posted on 06/05/2004 1:19:22 PM PDT by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: jerseygirl

Thanks for that info JG. Most interesting.


2,469 posted on 06/05/2004 3:06:10 PM PDT by Oorang ( Those who trade liberty for security have neither)
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To: jerseygirl

Re: Venezuela
I can understand why they have a vessel there. My household is Venezuelan/American, so we are watching this situation closely. The signatures for the recall of the president (Chavez) have been approved, and it is looking like his days are numbered. He AGAIN is grumbling that there may have been foul play, and it's clear that he's cornered. He has already threatened to cut the oil supply off to the US. He is not going to take any of this well, and I'm sure he has a plan with Castro. There are huge numbers of Cubans in Venezuela, and the number of Arab muslims have surged as well (I believe some are strategically placed in Immigration!!)
In any case, I have missed the Russian connection, and the threat from F.G. Can you send links to that?


2,476 posted on 06/05/2004 5:18:15 PM PDT by GorillaMa (The most dangerous place in the world... between a gorilla mom and her babes!)
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To: jerseygirl

The same group whose tactics involve "simple" devices like car bombs, truck bombs, backpack bombs and general use of explosives - or who must hijack the weapons they use against us (planes on 9-11) - does not have pre-positioned nukes inside the US.


2,481 posted on 06/05/2004 7:29:06 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: jerseygirl

Are you safely able and willing to say . . .

my sources in the know are . . .

between 5-7 levels up from the bottom or down from the top in their departments/agencies/?

Are you able to safely say whether they are involved in government admin/intel/military?

I mean safely for all concerned.


2,501 posted on 06/05/2004 8:42:20 PM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: jerseygirl; All
Sean Osborne was correct---the nukes are ALREADY in US cities in clusters of 4-5. We have found some- but can't possibly find all.

What proof is there that Sean is correct? Any links? Links to proof of us finding some in the US?

2,557 posted on 06/06/2004 9:25:12 AM PDT by JustPiper (The "7/11 Mata Hari Slurpee" Piper)
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