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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Nine
Yahoo News ^ | 5-30-04 | DONNA ABU-NASR AP

Posted on 05/30/2004 12:05:02 AM PDT by JustPiper

Picture credit: TheCabal

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"I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat"

LINK TO THREAD EIGHT

KHOBAR, Saudi Arabia - Tens of American, European and other hostages were released Sunday and a gunman believed to be the lead Islamic militant holding them was arrested, a Saudi security official said, adding that two other gunmen were "in the process of being arrested."

We are the "Stotters" who make ourselves aware of the enemy who wishes to do us harm



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To: milkncookies

I posted a similar response on TB2K also.

I am a submarine veteran and have experience in that part of the world as well.


2,021 posted on 06/03/2004 5:56:54 PM PDT by judicial meanz
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To: milkncookies
Has to be a drill. This guy is in FLA, and you can't hear units on that frequency that far over the horizon (maybe 150 miles if its an aircraft) Probably Coast Guard units training prior to deployment in the Gulf.

I do like his scanner setup though....I am very jealous.

2,022 posted on 06/03/2004 6:05:35 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: judicial meanz
OK, thought I'd seen that post. :>)

Thanks
2,023 posted on 06/03/2004 6:10:06 PM PDT by milkncookies (BEWARE OF PREGNANT WOMEN DISGUISED AS POLICE WHO SMELL LIKE DYNAMITE!)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

Your Navy post is very clear to me............

"We are ready and we are where we are needed"

"Don't Mess with the U.S. Navy"

My worry is, "Did all the other countries get the message?"

My Granny always said "Walk softly and carry a Big Stick".

I didn't know until a year ago that the quote was from Teddy Roosevelt.

It looks as tho that is what President Bush is doing, he has put all the world on notice, not only notice, but has the parts of the world that will support us sailing with our Navy.

Good planning.


2,024 posted on 06/03/2004 6:16:45 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (You can help win the election by becoming a REGISTRAR OF VOTERS, easy go to Court House and sign up)
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To: All

G8 SUMMIT NEXT "TERRORIST" TARGET?
(03.06.2004)

There are indications to suggest that the next "terrorist" attack on the US may occur at the G8 Summit, Sea Island Georgia between the 8th and 10th of June 2004.

What better platform to make a political statement than a meeting that hosts leaders from all the major countries in the world? But of political benefit to who?

Such an attack would certainly indicate the "usual suspects", but would they really want to anger the rest of the world and bring that much heat on themselves? Would they even have the capabilities of getting past such security precautions?

Who else could benefit from an attack on this scale? There have been many reports that the 9/11 attack was not created by Osama bin Laden, but was produced by America itself in order to gain support for the war. Most of these reports are automatically dismissed by the average American as crackpot ideas from conspiracy theorists. But are they? There are a number of "holes" in the facts that have been issued by the government on this "attack" and many questions remain unanswered. Whilst it is hard to imagine the USA being behind such an horrific act, it can not be ruled out completely. The recent events in Iraq (the abuse photo's and the Nick Berg beheading) have shown that even the American Military are capable of torture and the Berg video had more holes in it than an old dartboard!

There are a number of factors that give us cause for concern. Reports of an "imminent" terrorist attack have been pouring out of the White House at a rapid rate over the last week or so, based on information from "credible" sources. Unfortunately, these sources have no faces and it's hard to say whether they exist at all. Where do they get information that says the "terrorists" are 90% ready? Or that there are 18,000 potential terrorists at large and as many as 20,000 jihadists, or Muslims recruited to fight a holy war, were trained by al-Qaeda in Afghanistan since 1996. We doubt very much any terrorist would know this information, let alone the US government! So why are we told this information?

Some of the reports have "hinted" that an attack may be of a chemical or biological nature, but this appears to be an assumption which is not based on information received. Is the government giving the "terrorists" suggestions, or do they know something we don't?

The Federal reserve have been raising the Money Supply (M-3), by considerable amounts. Are they expecting some disaster that will affect the economy in the very near future? Do they know or suspect something too?

The US Navy has also begun an exercise. This was announced apparently in December, but has just started. A coincidence?

We realize that the security surrounding the G8 Summit needs to look at all possibilities and this may be the reason for stockpiling huge supplies of antidotes and other medicines to combat any chemical or biological attack. But is there another reason why they have taken such precautions in this area?

There have been sightings of mobile missile launchers in the area around the G8 Summit location. What sort of attack are they expecting that requires such equipment? Has bin Laden purchased Jet Fighters and missiles since 9/11?

Hopefully, our worries will be unfounded and maybe sufficient publicity will deter any such thoughts (should they exist at all). But should the worst happen, we urge everyone to examine the details of any such attack (whether at the G8 Summit or anywhere else in the US) carefully and not let their anger cloud their vision in any way.

In view of the "warnings" that the US government have apparently been receiving, perhaps it would be wiser to postpone the meeting alltogether rather than take any chances? Let's hope we shall not be reporting on the deaths of thousands in a weeks time!



http://www.profindpages.com/news/2004/06/03/MN137.htm


2,025 posted on 06/03/2004 6:27:30 PM PDT by Mossad1967
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To: StillProud2BeFree

SP,

What are the Arabic words for "day" and for "month"?


2,026 posted on 06/03/2004 6:47:02 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

I personally think that that

MOST FITTINGLY

applies to the time when the AC sets up his image in the Holy Of Holies in the new 3rd Temple in Jerusalem. At which point the Jews realize he's not REALLY their Messiah and start heading for the hills as he slaughters them by the 10's of thousands.

Of course, I also believe it has relevancy for many of us before that, as well.


2,027 posted on 06/03/2004 6:47:31 PM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Velveeta; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; JustPiper; FairOpinion; Oorang; GOPJ; TexKat; yonif; Dog; ...
The following message was posted to the "Daleel_Almojahid_1_" group (appears to be a Daleel fan club with only 4 posts) on May 31st. The body of the message was empty, it simply had the subject "BE ACTIVE". Tinfoil time: Is this an activation message for AQ cells?

From:  "osihesaar" <osihesaar@y...>
Date:  Mon May 31, 2004  12:57 pm
Subject:  BE ACTIVE

2,028 posted on 06/03/2004 6:53:35 PM PDT by LayoutGuru2 (Call me paranoid but finding '/*' inside this comment makes me suspicious)
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To: Velveeta

FR won't accept the Arabic script so I'll have to transliterate

Day is Yum (Yoom)
Month is Shahr


2,029 posted on 06/03/2004 6:55:59 PM PDT by StillProud2BeFree
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To: LayoutGuru2
Here is the message source:

From osihesaar@y... Mon May 31 12:59:10 2004
Return-Path: <osihesaar@y...>
Received: (qmail 36499 invoked from network); 31 May 2004 19:59:09 -0000
Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172)
by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 May 2004 19:59:09 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO n35.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.103)
by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 May 2004 19:59:09 -0000
X-eGroups-Return: osihesaar@y...
Received: from [66.218.66.115] by n35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 May 2004 19:58:52 -0000
X-Sender: osihesaar@y...
X-Apparently-To: Daleel_Almojahid_1_@yahoogroups.com
Received: (qmail 31188 invoked from network); 31 May 2004 19:57:57 -0000
Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167)
by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 May 2004 19:57:57 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.90)
by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 May 2004 19:57:57 -0000
Received: from [66.218.67.251] by n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 May 2004 19:57:55 -0000
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 19:57:55 -0000
To: Daleel_Almojahid_1_@yahoogroups.com
Message-ID: <c9g2o3+2p4h@eGroups.com>
User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Length: 1
X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster
X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.90
From: "osihesaar" <osihesaar@y...>
X-Originating-IP: 213.5.90.213
Subject: BE ACTIVE
X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=183438281
X-Yahoo-Profile: osihesaar
X-eGroups-Approved-By: osihesaar <osihesaar@y...> via web; 31 May 2004 19:58:51 -0000
X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.103

IP Address 213.5.90.213 resolves to: ppp90-213.kozani.access.acn.gr

.gr = Greece = Olympics ????

2,030 posted on 06/03/2004 6:59:37 PM PDT by LayoutGuru2 (Call me paranoid but finding '/*' inside this comment makes me suspicious)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

Bookmarking 1625 & aussie bloke!


2,031 posted on 06/03/2004 7:06:04 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Honestly

Bookmarking 1663, Dr. Gartrel - Aussie Bloke

Grovers Mill? Give me a break, Orson used that one too...nice diversion though.


2,032 posted on 06/03/2004 7:18:13 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Myrddin

Okay, you got me there. I'm not familiar with canoe clubs. Are they similar to yacht clubs? Fill me in here please.


2,033 posted on 06/03/2004 7:21:38 PM PDT by Oorang ( Those who trade liberty for security have neither)
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To: Myrddin
It isn't just the U.S. Navy. The canoe clubs from every nation plan to have all their vessels out in June.

Ohhhh???

2,034 posted on 06/03/2004 7:27:38 PM PDT by null and void (If you think more government is the solution to every problem, North Korea should be your paradise!)
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To: Oorang
Okay, you got me there. I'm not familiar with canoe clubs. Are they similar to yacht clubs? Fill me in here please.

Canoe club == naval service

2,035 posted on 06/03/2004 7:27:41 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Thanks. Sorry, I'm brain dead tonight and I think it shows!


2,036 posted on 06/03/2004 7:30:37 PM PDT by Oorang ( Those who trade liberty for security have neither)
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To: milkncookies; All
"I am Informed that" Snowball net "is a Classified Data sharing and Monitoring network concerning Comets, Meteors and Asteroids. Really High classification level!Also have been told that its Encryption Level 28! Also Shadow Government has Been Activated and are Positioned in their Respective Locations. This ties in with Tenet's resignation. Heads up".

Interesting . . . and getting more interesting.

Has anyone hereon come up with a rating system for the various puzzle pieces?

For example, we could rate them say 1-10 on:

1) Believability (A) intellectually
(B) in our gut

2) Immediacy 1 = within 24 hours; 2 = within 48 hours; 3 = within 72 hours; 4 = within 1 week; 5 = within a month; 6 = within 2 months; 7 = within 3 months; 8 = within 6 months; 9 = within 9 months; 10 = more than 9 months off.

I suppose they could be divided into a few categories--such as:

A) TERRORIST NON USA
1) BIO 2) CHEM 3) NUKE 4) OTHER
B) TERRORIST USA
C) METEORS & SIMILAR
D) VOLCANOS
E) QUAKES
F) MISC OTHER
G) SUPER WIERD TINFOIL, TESLA, ET, UFO,
H) STRANGE MOVEMENTS OF OFFICIALS
I) STRANGE MOVEMENTS OF TROOPS, SHIPS ETC

IT SEEMS TO ME, that if we rated such--perhaps a pasted in option at the end of each doc posted . . . Those replying could give their ratings . . .

Someone with the time available could compile such and graph it in Excel. I might be willing, if I could keep up with it. Depends on what's going on around here. Would need a couple of backup helpers to insure coverage.

Then we'd have some at least numerically summarized data which we could watch for spikes above the average baseline. Escalating spikes within a short time could communicate greater urgency regarding preparedness and nailing down other options.

I realize it's all subjective. But it's a LOT better than nothing. And, we'd have the data already in terms of the reports we'd be rating.

And, SUDS--Subjective Units of Distress have been shown in a lot of research to be rather remarkably reliable over time. Just using that as an illustration to suggest, this COULD develop into a really viable guage of at least PERCEIVED threat level.

I thought of this because with this post, it seems to me like

THE NUMBER OF RELATIVELY SOBERING QUALITY PUZZLE PIECES HAS SUDDENLY ESCALATED THE LAST 3-7 DAYS. AM I ALONE IN THAT PERCEPTION?

But I'm just guesstimating about that. If we had data about it, we'd have a lot more of a siginificant puzzle piece to consider in our graphed data summary.

Am I making sense to anyone else???

2,037 posted on 06/03/2004 7:34:41 PM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: ExSoldier

THANKS.


2,039 posted on 06/03/2004 7:40:52 PM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Mossad1967

Would be particularly interested in your response.


2,040 posted on 06/03/2004 7:43:21 PM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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